Hmmm...Putting aside my bromance with Lvenger, I think I'll give the vote to @jwalser3. He really showed off Iron Man's versatility in the fight, though @lvenger's argument was top notch as well.
Although, if I were to offer a way in which Lvenger could have really tied his whole underwater advantage argument together, it'd be Namor's performance against Extremis:
Although, if I were to offer a way in which Lvenger could have really tied his whole underwater advantage argument together, it'd be Namor's performance against Extremis:
Damn it why did I not see this sooner? Namor was owning Stark like a boss. Aw well, can't be helped how.
Although, if I were to offer a way in which Lvenger could have really tied his whole underwater advantage argument together, it'd be Namor's performance against Extremis:
Damn it why did I not see this sooner? Namor was owning Stark like a boss. Aw well, can't be helped how.
The whole argument of Aquaman going to the water seems out of character. Aquaman knocking him in the water is more realistic. But how is Aquaman going to tag Tony. I know every one is going to bring up that onehigh end feat of Arthur tackling Wonder Woman. For one thing no one brought up was the fact that the Justice League was clearly pulling their punches. In the arc they obviously didn't want to fight. So it's safe to assume that they weren't trying their hardest.
While Thor stated he wasn't holding back.
Now hold on there cowboys. Before you go off getting butt hurt for this let me explain what I mean. Thor clearly wasn't pulling his punches in this battle. I'm not saying he was hitting Tony with Planet busting level hits, rather he was just hitting him harder than he normally would. Yet Iron Man was able to handle the first hit, than Thor weakened his armor with a massive lighting bolt. I know Lvenger debunked this, but I don't think he understood what I was getting at. Clearly Thor wasn't fighting Tony like he would, say, Silver Surfer. But he defiantly wasn't playing around. Besides, was their any doubt in a fight between a city level hero vs. a god level?
Even if you guys don't want to except such a thing, because some reason.
Extremis was able to hang with the Hulk Buster Mk. I
And yes, the Hulkbuster did it's job pretty well. It held it's own against Hulk, until they both agreed to stop fighting. And about that Namor fight....How come a inferior armored Tony was able to break the grip of Namro while Extremis couldn't? Seem a little odd to me seeing how Extremis is suppose to not only retain prior suit abilities but also be vastly superior .
@comicstooge: It would have been. But thanks for the heads up!
@jwalser3 Come on, you're winning in the votes and you still have issues with people nit picking your arguments? All I clarified was that Thor wasn't fighting at his absolute utmost best against Tony. And I fail to see why Aquaman going in the water to gain an edge is more out of character than booting Tony into the water. Either way, Tony's underwater and Aquaman immediately has the field advantage.
@lvenger: It's not that I have an issue with them, I have a issue with people posting PIS stuff from Illuminati. Iron Man has faced Namor in water before, many times. But this advanced suit with a bunch of his older suits abilities can't handle him? I'm just giving people what they want, my under water scenario argument.
He does so again.
So you know that Uni beam that can reach over 1,000 k.....Just do the same thing and pull him back up. Or just straight up put a force field around him and toss him back on the island.
So really, on land and sea Iron Man has a good chance.
@jwalser3: Why didn't you post this earlier when we were actually debating? You'd have clinched a solid victory then. But that wouldn't have accounted for the aquatic telepathy not to mention that Aquaman hasn't shown a total dependency on water. On land Iron Man has a much better chance of winning but I angled for a sea environment so that I could bring that into play. With that on his side, Aquaman can edge out IMO. It can go either way.
@jwalser3: The problem here is that I thought you knew I would want Aquaman to move the battle into the water at some point. That's why I chose an environment that would be near water. Without a water source nearby or if the battle had stayed strictly on land, I'd be hard pressed to make a convincing case for Aquaman taking a majority of wins.
One of the more interesting debates that I've read as of late. Really, really close battle but I may have to edge out the victory to Lvenger here. I felt that he could toss out some great feats of his own while doing a good job of countering most of what jwalser3 had to throw at him. You kind of stumbled here and there, lingering a bit too much on a certain subject where you could utilized some other points but overall, I was more impressed with Lvenger's piece.
@lvenger:i don't think wonder woman was going all out against aquaman,she didn't even use super speed,i don't think aquaman can keep up with her top speed,but i think he has enough speedd for this fight and the place of the fight gives him a huge advantage.
I don't think anymore voters will be showing up really since we've plucked most of the battle forum regulars. So do you think we should end the voting and call this a slim victory for you? If so, excellent job on this CAV mate and it was nice debating with you on your well supporter Iron Man arguments.
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