CaV: Goku vs H'el

Goku (PCB) vs H'el (Flash)

• Uninhabited Planet.
• H'el is fighting to restore Krypton.
• Goku is fighting to save the Universe.
• Both are in good condition and are running at normal maximum capacity and are giving it their all.
• Anime/Manga feats allowed.

@flash1812 Could you open?

T4V

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@precrisisbardock: How can HE'l even be a threat for the universe?

Anyway T4V

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@atomix: Suspension of belief

@flash1812

@precrisisbardock: Wanna Start us off

@precrisisbardock: Ermmm PCB.....Goku is now wayyyyyyyyyyyyy to powerful for H'el. Did you watch the latest episode?

@citizensentry: I don't plan to use God Form.

@citizensentry: yeah, Goku should be put against likes of Galactus (no fully fed of course) and above.

@precrisisbardock: You starting?

@flash1812: Maybe this evening, you can start sooner if you want.

tag 4 voting, also, versions required.

T4V.

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Why?

I think that for the first time in my life i'm going to back up PreCrisisBardock.

TV4

@akshsarpanch: reality warping+mindrape, along with many other hax abilitys abstracts like him possess says lolnope.

This is interesting

Abilities:

@flash1812 you're up, will post feats if requested.

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This'll be interesting... t4v please

goku stomps

GTFO

T4V also is this a mismatch now since goku is now literally skyfather level.

Not that it matters if H'el can pull off some of his offensive attacks that Goku has no defense for.

@subnettingisaverb: Oh so he'l has hack abilities ok this is fair then carry on.

no, not really. basic powers

@precrisisbardock:

H'el

H'el is a Kryptonian clone created from the cells of countless Kryptonians. He came to Earth seeking to destroy it in order to restore Krypton by using the energy released to protect his space-ship during time travel.

Powers and Abities

Simple and easy plan

H'el opens with a few bullrushes and attacks which shouls hurt Goku if he doenst react fast enough.After a few good hit are landed on Goku H'el proceeds to freeze him and burn him over and over agian.After Goku is weakened H'el proceeds to shrink him and than stamp on him.If this doesnt happen the way he wants it to happen he time manipulates to give him an another chance

Feats

• Punches Superman and Superboy out of the Fortress of Solitude.

• Beats down on Superman. Superman manages to briefly turn the tide and draw blood from H'El. H'El then double-fist uppercuts Superman into cis-lunar orbit. ||A|| -- ||B|| -- ||C||

• Hits Superman with a punch that Superboy questions whether Superman could even surviv

• Superman comments on H'El's speed as H'El traveled from Metropolis to Supergirl's Sanctuary in the Atlantic Ocean and back with Superboy in hand before Superman realized he left. H'El could have potentially used his teleportation here, but this scene was vague. Either way it's a good speed feat whether it's for his movement speed or teleportation speed. Blitzes Superman.

• Size Manipulation - H'El can manipulate the physcial size of others. For example, he shrinks Supergirl down and teleports her inside the bottled city of Kandor.
• He can peer into the recent past. In this case he looks back several minutes in the past to learn where the Super-family went.

Counters & Massive Strats.

Real Talk:

• H'el has no counters for Goku's speed or skill.
• He's going to get manhandled by Goku's striking power, I'll even go as far to say Goku can take him out in one punch in his Saiyan beyond God base form.
• If he does tag Goku it's getting No Selled.

@flash1812 all you.

T4V (if I am not to late)

@precrisisbardock: Did read my feats?

@flash1812: Yep

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@flash1812: @precrisisbardock: SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!!!!!!! lol

@hollow_point: I'm waiting for his counter

@precrisisbardock:

H'el hasn't been able to tag people who are FTL before, he isn't going to start now.

• Able to blitz Nappa, who was able to dodge a Point blank Special Beam Cannon fired by Piccolo, Piccolo's weaker blasts had reached the moon in less than a second.
• Able to catch a Dragon Ball mid-flight, Dragon Balls went from Namek to Earth in minutes.
• Able to dodge Freeza's Light Ball attack the instant it exploded.

I could go on, but nah.

Surprises the Flash,Flies from Pluto to Earth in seconds,Swims fast enough to create a vortex.Yes,Supes is much faster than Goku.He Blitzed Superman who has MFTL reaction.That means he is MFTL+Teleportaion.And above all this H'el Blitzes Superman

Yeah he isn't tagging Goku with his Ice Breath or Heat Vision, reasons stated above.

they are the same speed so yes he is tagging him

Yeah he's never used this in battle, not to mention he didn't shrink her he just teleported her into the bottled City.

He was'n't potrayed long enough to use it but he would if he got more time

I've never ever seen H'el turn back time or anything of the sort, I know he built a time portal to try and save Krypton, but that's about it.

.He can peer into the recent past. In this case he looks back several minutes in the past to learn where the Super-family went.

Counters pt 2.

Surprises the Flash,Flies from Pluto to Earth in seconds,Swims fast enough to create a vortex.Yes,Supes is much faster than Goku.He Blitzed Superman who has MFTL reaction.That means he is MFTL+Teleportaion.And above all this H'el Blitzes Superman

None of those feats show FTL anything except flying to Earth from Pluto, which is

A. A travel Feat.

B. In a comic which takes place after H'el IIRC.

they are the same speed so yes he is tagging him

No... they aren;t.

He was'n't potrayed long enough to use it but he would if he got more time

Yeah he was, why didn't he use it at all when the Justice League attacked him while he was in the fortress? Because he doesn't have this power, he just teleported her into the bottle.

.He can peer into the recent past. In this case he looks back several minutes in the past to learn where the Super-family went.

He looked back in time he din't turn back time lol, get real.

@flash1812 all you.