Tag me for votes to Imperfect Cell! Disregarding the guy that just HAD to let his inner fan boy (no offense) take over and say that Superman solos. This CAV looks pretty good.
@imperfect_cell: Never said you didn't but you missed out on tons of massive feats. Though you don't want to know them then that;s fine by me, also that scan of Golden Frieza level doesn't actually say it's level.
Thor: God of Thunder & Beta Ray Bill: Champion of the Korbanites
Brothers by Blood
Thor was born into the Asgardian Royalty by way of Odin: King of Asgard and the Elder Earth Goddess Gaea. As a result Thor is the most powerful of the Asgardian people, proving his strength time and time again in his youth, and again when he reached his prime. He joined the Avengers to aid in the protection of Earth against it's mightiest foes, but still has duties to Asgard and he must balance these two worlds with precision, lest he let one fall into ruin.
Beta Ray Bill was chosen as the Champion of the Korbanite Race when their planet was destroyed, he was upgraded with technological enhancements and boarded his ship Scuttlebutt, which is where these two destined blood-brothers met. They battled for some time until Thor was seperated from Mjolnir and Beta Ray Bill proved he was worth to wield the hammer. After a set of trials Bill proved in front of all of Asgard that he was worthy so Odin had a new hammer forged, Stormbreaker, with all the same enchantments as Mjolnir.
After this, these two became fast friends, multiple times coming to each other's aid and considering each other no less than the closest of brothers, true family. They will fight to the death to protect each other, and their people.
Strength
Striking Strength
Where Thor and Beta Ray Bill possibly hold the greatest advantage, their ability to crush their enemies into dust with their blows is unrivaled.
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Thor is capable of shaking the stars with the force of his blows, cracking apart nearby planets with his blows, even smashing through space itself with his blows-that was without Mjolnir, definitely proving his striking power, he's crushed the heart of Demoregore, knocked out a being with the power of Lord of Wills, a Marvel Abstract, and smashing straight into and harming Galactus.
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Oh, and he knocked out the Phoenix Force with a single throw of Mjolnir.
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And if you truly doubt his ability to crush planets with pure strength, look at this
Wielding the hammer alone gives one the strength to crush planets like pebbles, with Thor's strength behind it, it could do far, far more.
Beta Ray Bill
Beta Ray Bill has the power to crush entire planets with the force of his blows. In Omega Flight #4 and #5 he says that he can shatter entire moons with his bare fist, and crush entire planets with the force of his blows.
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And he's even capable of amplifying Stormbreaker's strikes
Lifting Strength
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Thor has lifted the Midgard Serpent with the eight of Earth-twice-tossed a compressed star at the God-Bomb that weighed around 2 Octillion tons, fought the weight of a neutron star, held a moon together, lifted the weight of the nine realms, easily moved under the weight of a score-20-planets, and wrestled with Hercules.
Beta Ray Bill
Beta Ray Bill admittedly has few lifting feats that compare in this matchup, but he wields the power of Thor, and through all reason, their strength is the same, in all categories.
Assisted Feats
Beta Ray Bill and Thor both have a few feats that were performed by the both of them assisting one another, whether through need or by sheer desire to aid one another these two perform incredible feats.
Striking
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Thor and Beta Ray Bill both displaying the force required to destroy this machine that dwarfed stars.
Lifting
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Squatting Asgard together
Speed
Travel
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Thor outspeeds Ego going hyperspace speeds, makes it from the Earth to the Sun in a matter of seconds, Mjolnir went from the farthest reaches of the Galaxy and returned in 3 seconds, and he's capable of summoning winds-which he can use for speed-to go so fast he past by entire galaxies in a blur.
Beta Ray Bill
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Traveling across the Galaxy in a few seconds, escaping the force of a black hole, and traveling at, and fighting at hyperspace speeds.
Combat
Where both Thor and Beta Ray Bill are most underestimated and mocked, but these two beings of immense power are not slow bruting thugs, they simply have no reason to move as fast as people often demand with these tier characters, but they certainly can step up to that level.
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Many often doubt Thor's combat speed, but there's so many times to point out Thor's reaction speed.
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Here Thor is capable of tracking how fast and in which direction Gorr moves, and if only moments later he was entire lightyears away, that means he has to have the processing speed to track those levels of speeds, and when he first met Beta Ray Bill he was capable of tracking and processing the speed of Scuttlebutt.
Outside of that?
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A bewitched Mjolnir, Hyperion, Silver Surfer's blasts, silver Surfer himself, blitzing Gladiator, Sentry, Gladiator, and even overwhelming Gladiator with his speed. All of these fighters are FTL and Thor is able to keep up just fine with all of them.
And then he rescued Red Hulk from a Black Hole, which pulls you in at the speed of light, Thor was capable of reacting at those speeds.
Beta Ray Bill
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Bill bullrushes Stardust across a solar system, perceives Silver Surfer moving at FTL speeds, he maneuvers around a black hole he perceives a milisecond as hours-which puts him at nanosecond reaction speeds, and he's capable of reacting to a blitzing Silver Surfer.
Durability/Endurance
Durability
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Thor takes Ghost Rider's Hellfire-which burns your soul-the heat of the sun, arctic colds-which he also tanks against Frost Giants-electrical and lightning attacks serve only to refresh him, he tanked a planet-busting blast from Thanos, he was able to take four Mjolnir-level hits at once-remember, all of them were planet busting-without a scratch, Adamantium barely scratched Thor, and he was capable of taking a full-powered blast from the Phoenix Force.
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Here he tanks anti-matter blasts from Electro, and not only that, but shows understanding of advanced physics.
And that's not it, his most impressive durability feat of all is when he tanked the God-Bomb
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The God Bomb was meant to wipe out all gods, everywhere, everywhen, and wipe them from existence, from all of history. Thor took the entirety of that bomb into one point in time into one god, himself, and survived, he did the impossible and lived.
As Odin says, Thor isn't just a god, he is the god of gods.
Beta Ray Bill
Beta Ray Bill is capable of surviving massive blasts and planetary-level explosions
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Endurance/Healing
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Thor is capable of fighting at his peak for nine months straight without food, water, rest, or any form of sleep or sustenance.
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Thor fought the dead for forty days and forty nights, had his skin torn off and replaced with no signs of pain from him, endured Gorr's torture for seventeen days when the hardest of gods lasted only three, and he can even stay alive without his heart. And he can even regrow entire organs, in a short battle like this, he could heal massive internal damage and broken bones in minutes, and keep fighting at his max in that time.
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No amount of heat can harm Beta Ray Bill, he flies in and out of stars casually, something that just straight-up kills most characters in the DBZ-verse. In fact, it rejuvenates him, I believe Goku has a tendency to throw hard-to-beat opponents into the sun, yes? Well should he do that, Beta Ray Bill will only regain his strength. Or Thor could just grab him and hurl him at FTL speeds towards the sun.
Energy Manipulation
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There is a reason Thor is the God of Thunder
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His lightning phases Mikaboshi, welds a planet together, he spreads his lightning throughout a Galaxy, he was capable of one-shotting the Void, using omnidirectional lightning attacks, bringing forth the winds of a thousand worlds that are capable of harming a being with bloodlusted Odin levels of power, oh, and he can make it rain fire.
Then there are his ultimate attacks, the Godblast, Thermal Blast, and the Anti-Force Blast. The Godblast is so powerful it can light up every star in a galaxy and it can kill and wipe out the souls of immortals, if either Goku or Vegeta are hit by this, it's game over, they're done, there is no coming back.
The Thermal Blast and Anti-Force blasts aren't as flashy, but they are powerful enough to unleash the force of a supernova, although they are very draining to Thor.
He can also create nigh-impenetrable barriers, he even blocked a bomb meant to destroy 1/5th of the universe.
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And he can absorb any energy that Goku and Vegeta send out, and send it right back at them.
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Here he absorbs the Galaxy-Destroying Null Bomb, he sucks the energy directly out of his opponents, he absorbs attacks from Kang and Thanos and sends them back a hundredfold, and he absorbs a blast from Glory, doing the same to him.
In fact, as soon as Goku and Vegeta show their ki in any energy-format, as shown here, Thor could suck it right up and send it right back at them, a hundredfold.
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Beta Ray Bill is capable of unleashing energy blasts that can harm herald-level beings like Stardust, multiple times, down Fenris with one blast, unleash Omnidirectional blasts, and even compete with Sam Alexander in energy projection.
But he can also use his abilities defensively.
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He can create shields against Super Skrulls, against Sam Alexander, and even against the power of an entire sun.
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And he can absorb energy and redirect it just like Thor can, by a hundredfold. He can even suck energy directly out of his opponent should they prove too much, and he's far more likely to do it than Thor.
Although Ki most likely won't be able to be absorbed directly, should that energy leave their bodies at any time and actually manifest itself as energy-like when they gain their aura-Bill could certainly suck it out of them at that point.
Skill
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Thor shows not only his ability to command Mjolnir as it slams into his enemy. but strategic ability beyond just hitting someone.
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Thor is also the Prince of Asgard and has led men and gods into battle for thousands of years, he knows how to command me, and has led many teams in his time. He has incredible amounts of strategical ability, after all, he is a god of battle, he should know how to behave in one.
And Thor's H2H abilities should not be underestimated in this match.
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Thor fights H2H with Sentry, knocks out a Hulk-level Minotaur with a single punch, fights undead automatons when near-dead and stripped of all his godly powers, fights swordsmen without his godly powers, and even shows his skill with totally unfamiliar weapons like Captain America's shield.
Thor vs Sif
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Thor vs Hercules
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Beta Ray Bill
Beta Ray Bill does something similar, spinning his hammer around a planet and using it to increase the force of the blow with speed.
And his fighting skill is just as notable.
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Here he beats down Stardust, he led Asgardians against Surtur and his armies, showing his ability as a tactician and a leader, and Thor considers Bill his brother and his equal, and he even made him King of Asgard and leader of the Asgardian forces, only the greatest of warriors earn this position.
And of course, Bill is the champion of the Korbanite people, their greatest fighter.
Teleportation
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Thor shows thrice how easily he can open portals and step through, and in the last 4 scans it's shown that he can easily BFR The Wasp to another dimension, although he doesn't tend to BFR enemies, he can definitely open up portals to absorb energy attacks for him
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And Beta Ray Bill can do the same, he even does it offensively
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Here he teleports a whole group of people, smashes a comet into Ego the Living Planet, and teleports a black hole away.
Mental Resistance
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Thor withstanding mental assaults from Glory who's mental abilities can effect an entire civilization, and Emma Frost, amped by the Phoenix Force.
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Experience
Thor has led Asgard and fought in battle against gods and enemies his equal and superior for thousands of years, battling endlessly, and he definitely has far more experience in battle than Goku or Vegeta do.
Beta Ray Bill has spent his entire life in battle against monstrous odds, both his equal and superior, he should be able to match Vegeta's and Goku's experience
Power-Ups
Warrior's Madness activates if he experiences true rage, should he see Bill fall in battle, his blood brother, he could easily fall into this rage that multiplies his power by ten times over and he becomes incapable of holding back.
Should Beta Ray Bill release his Power-Governers, he's capable of exceeding his power dozens of times over, before he was capable of matching Stardust, now he's able to do something she and Silver Surfer were both far from capable of doing.
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Misc Abilities
Sensing
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Mjolnir can detect practically allt ypes of energy, and it can track down the energy pattern of someone in hiding, and it cans sense and track energy radiating from mystical objects and people. These are all explained in Thor Corps #1, Avengers #309, Strange Tales #182, Journey into Mystery #115, Avengers #14, Journey into Mystery #117.
Beta Ray Bill
Beta Ray Bill can do the same, sensing any life form anywhere
Misc.
Beta Ray Bill can heal Thor's wounds at any time during the battle, even if totally physically exhausted.
Beta Ray Bill can also manipulate gravity, and while it may not be too effective against Goku, Vegeta was never at King Kai's planet, and it could throw him off when he goes to throw punches.
Super Breath-Thor and Beta Ray Bill can create hurricane forces through their breath.
Earth Control-Thor has total control of any and all Earthen Materials.
Weather Manipulation-They can make it rain fire style points anyone?
Transcend Dimensions
Memory Alteration
All-Tongue
Matter Manipulation
Resurrection
Alpha Particles-can atomize weaponry and armor
Negation of Mystic Energy
Nether World Power
Cosmic Energy
Electromagnetic Spectrum Manipulation
Negation of Invisibility and Intangibility
Illusion Detection
Strategy
Thor and Beta Ray Bill will play to their strengths, sticking together and fighting together, their enemies do have speed, but they can counter it with incredible ability, even if they should be overwhelmed, there's one thing these two can do that Goku and Vegeta have never shown the ability to do, and that's use omnidirectional attacks while in-combat to stun their enemies. Should Goku and Vegeta even prove a bit too much for the pair, their control of thunder and storms of all kinds comes into play, covering the battlefield in the winds of a thousand worlds, releasing omnidirectional blasts of lightning from their hammers to keep their enemies in place before striking them.
Since this battle starts in space, my team has no reason to hold back, and holding back would've been the only thing allowing Goku and Vegeta to get past the pure destructive force of this duo. Without it, they may land some considerable hits, but they are both matched in skill and strategical ability, outmatched heavily in strength and durability, and their speed can be countered. Then their energy attacks can all be absorbed by both combatants and then redirected a hundredfold, this leaves Goku and Vegeta with only their physical abilities, and close range is where my team takes the massive lead. So with all of these factors in play, my team should both be the victors.
Rebuttles
Super Saiyan God Vegeta lacks feats as a Super Saiyan God, so one can't truly come up with a reasonable conclusion for his level of ability, and while one might say it's around Goku's, Goku was always the more powerful of the two, capable of reaching Super Saiyan 3 while Vegeta could not, so reasonably, Goku's form is likely much more powerful.
Many of Goku's younger feats are assumptions at best, and while you can guess Akira Toriyama is a straightforward man, he could've easily been implying something far different.
Much like against the fine Doctor Gero in the Android Arc, one cannot sense the energy of a Cyborg-which Gero was, as he still had a human brain and a human soul and such-so Beta Ray Bill should be totally invisible to them.
According to TFS, King Kai's gravity is so high because, and I quote "I have an unbelievably powerful space pirate locked within the depths of my planet"
I'm joking of course, it's from the abridged DBZ, but I don't think that's how it works. Hope that one made ya chuckle.
@conner_wolf: Damn I need to get back to this. Sorry for the wait. Once I get moved into my new home I'll be able to do CaVs faster & faster. Give me, like, 7 days. Then I'll be done with my Semester tests & in my new house.
@imperfect_cell: Man no one can kick superman's ass... they will get shit stomped by him for obvious reasons thor and bill are loosing to superman and of course goku and vegeta are too gonna loose
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