Thor's physical strength is going to be a tremondous problem for the Lanterns. It will be too much for them to overcome. You basically proved my point twice. I even have scans to show how weak Lanterns constructs can be to beings with crazy physical strength.
Here Wonder Woman is taking out not only Hal's shields, but easily blooding him without even trying. It basically looks like Hal was nothing but a nuisance at best.
Superman destroying constructs
Again, but casually.
Hal is not going to be able to shield from Thor's blows, seeing as Wonder Woman easily destroyed his. Thor with Mjolnir hits harder than Wonder Woman, and even Superman. Thor with Mjolnir, and bloodlusted can hit a Celestial with so much force that the blow puts a hole in a Celestials amour, and shakes the entire planet.
Seeing from past encounters. A blow like that wouldn't only destroy Hal's contstructs, but kill him. This is what a morals off Thor is capable of. We have seen Hal's constructs destroyed time, and time again. Alone he would get destroy by Thor, but with Sinestro they will put up a good fight, but nevertheless lose to the thunder god. Hal has put the hurting on Mongul, but face it. Mongul's durability is not that impressive. He only beats his opponents through brute strength, but once they try to utilize there speed, and skill he loses. His durability is nothing special either for a character of his level. Mongul was taken out by Wally. To my knowledge it wasn't even an IMP or Speed Steal, but correct me if i'm wrong. Just punches from Wally. That's not too impressive. So, Hal doing that to Mongul is not too impressive.
Sinestro on the other hand might be more troublesome to Thor. Only because of his superior durability. From what iv'e seen Sinestro seems to be the more durable of the two. Hal may be a little more skilled, but Sinestro beats him in durability. He does take a beating from Hal a lot of times. To be honest Sinestro won't last any longer than Hal. Doesn't matter who dies first. I'm even wondering how they will hurt Thor enough to put him down, maybe with a combined attack, but Thor has tanked things like this.
Tanking a planet explosion, while still standing on the planet
Or how about Thor's unconscious body survivng a planet destroying Doomsday Bomb
Or he can just simply drain all the Lanterns constucts, and blasts. Sending the attack back 10x more powerful
He has sent back a god with the power of 10 000 gods, and was as powerful as a pissed off Odin. So he basically redirected a Skyfather's blast, and killed him.
Although Superman ans]d Wonder Woman broke his constructs doesn't mean Hal didn't get some good hits in.
Moves like these are going to hurt Thor.
Even in the New 52 Superman and Wonder Woman I'd say are faster than Thor, so Superman and WW's speed advantage will be gone here (Thor makes up for it in power, but GL's are also pretty powerful themselves).
If you see the scan where Superman takes Hal's ring Thor can't do that, and also in the fight with Superman speed was his main advantage which was later takem by the Flash (who though didn't have the power to battle Superman well, unlike Hal.)
Also I believe even New 52 Darkseid is more powerful than Thor, who Hal -although didn't do that well against- fought can got back up from his attacks.
These are some no name Lanterns. Nothing special about them. To be honest. New 52 Superman may be physically superior to Flashpoint, but he is a lot less durable. Flashpoint had him taking planets colliding, and supernovas, while New 52 has him getting hurt from far less. Although even if it was to hit Thor, I would say it's a lot harder to draw blood from Thor than Superman. Thor may even be more durable too.
Thor having Wonder Woman or Superman's speed wouldn't matter. It's not needed. I wasn't referring to Superman's speed in that scan either, I was referring to Hal's constructs. Darkseid has barely any feats. Thor is more powerful. At the time, the Justice league was just beggining, and they weren't as powerful. Hal didn't do good against Darkseid if that's what your saying. Darkseid broke Hal's arm with ease, something Thor would easily replicate.
@ThunderGodsWrath: Not to mention we are dealing with two of the most power GL's in the corps.
Not to mention we are dealing with arguably the strongest being on Marvel earth.
I agree, but that could be argued with SS (silver surfer)
Good point but technically I'd say supes has the same durability. I mean he took blasts from Darkseid (who I still think is more powerful than Thor), and Helspont.
@ThunderGodsWrath: Not to mention we are dealing with two of the most power GL's in the corps.
Not to mention we are dealing with arguably the strongest being on Marvel earth.
I agree, but that could be argued with SS (silver surfer)
Good point but technically I'd say supes has the same durability. I mean he took blasts from Darkseid (who I still think is more powerful than Thor), and Helspont.
Silver Surfer is not on earth. Thor has tanked blasts from Thanos, who is superior to all of them.
AVX confirmed Mjolnir can move twice the speed of light ( In space it has moved 3 times the speed of light )
When did that happen in AVX? Could you send me a scan or just tell me which AVX comic it was in plz.
Can you do the same for the 3 times faster than light please
Mjolnir can move twice the speed of light was during AvX vs (Thor vs Emma)
There are old scans of Thor flying three times the speed of light, some even better, it has however been retconned now and he can only fly at Mach 32 on normal space, and pretty much unbound speed once he enters hyperspace.
think about about it sinestro and and hal have faced worser ppl than thor plus i mean u got sinestron in there n that alone guarenttes the victory for the lantern team especial if its morals off
AVX confirmed Mjolnir can move twice the speed of light ( In space it has moved 3 times the speed of light )
When did that happen in AVX? Could you send me a scan or just tell me which AVX comic it was in plz.
Can you do the same for the 3 times faster than light please
Mjolnir can move twice the speed of light was during AvX vs (Thor vs Emma)
There are old scans of Thor flying three times the speed of light, some even better, it has however been retconned now and he can only fly at Mach 32 on normal space, and pretty much unbound speed once he enters hyperspace.
@Clark_EL: preflashpoint feats count so use some. Like Hal being able to kill a supergaurdian Krona
Also supes held the world for five days as much as that's a strenght feat it also takes incredible durability.
Yeah, I'm going to get out the big guns in a second I just wanted to start with some lower feats....Yeah his durability is very high. I've actually heard people complaining to the people who write Superman saying he doesn't have any good durability feats with that new indestructible suit, so they had him temporarily take it off for H'el on earth for good durability feats.
@ThunderGodsWrath said:
@oceanmaster21 said:
the lantern team wud kill thor in the end and if they didnt kill him i bet u he wont dare mess with them again i guarentee that
That's your opinion, but voting hasn't commenced yet.
@Clark_EL: Clever, but still won't do much. That is just what he can do.
So there is voting....I've never done this before.
I'm just showing the creativity so far, I'm going to pull out raw power feats from Pre-52. Also what type should Sinestro's ring be Green or Yellow?
@Clark_EL: preflashpoint feats count so use some. Like Hal being able to kill a supergaurdian Krona
Also supes held the world for five days as much as that's a strenght feat it also takes incredible durability.
Yeah, I'm going to get out the big guns in a second I just wanted to start with some lower feats....Yeah his durability is very high. I've actually heard people complaining to the people who write Superman saying he doesn't have any good durability feats with that new indestructible suit, so they had him temporarily take it off for H'el on earth for good durability feats.
@ThunderGodsWrath said:
@oceanmaster21 said:
the lantern team wud kill thor in the end and if they didnt kill him i bet u he wont dare mess with them again i guarentee that
That's your opinion, but voting hasn't commenced yet.
@Clark_EL: Clever, but still won't do much. That is just what he can do.
So there is voting....I've never done this before.
I'm just showing the creativity so far, I'm going to pull out raw power feats from Pre-52. Also what type should Sinestro's ring be Green or Yellow?
Haha I just begun. Yeah, when we are done debating we let people vote to see who wins. I thought it was yellow you wanted..lol
No one in real space in marvel is FTL anymore but Thor can access hyperspace just fine, so unlimited speed in hyperspace though(to answer your previous question)
Mach 32 was stated in most recent Thor's bio, Avengers Roll Call 2012
No one in real space in marvel is FTL anymore but Thor can access hyperspace just fine, so unlimited speed in hyperspace though(to answer your previous question)
Mach 32 was stated in most recent Thor's bio, Avengers Roll Call 2012
Oh, I see thanks
@Clark_EL said:
@ThunderGodsWrath said:
@Clark_EL said:
@ThunderGodsWrath: I'm fine with both rings it doesn't really matter.
Both? That would be a little unfair don't you think? Or do you mean you don't care which?
Oh no I just meant I don't care what kind of ring he has.
@Clark_EL: Back to the debate. *Gets Final Smash Ball*Final Smash Persuasive Argument Of Destruction !
Hal & Sinesto are incredibly out-muscled by a large margin. If they fight him physically you are going to see two guys in yellow, and green getting tossed around like rag dolls. Although there probably smart enough to know not to engage Thor physically. Thor has fought Hulk for two hours while stalemating him, and Hulk was getting stronger from the increased anger. Thor & Beta Ray Bill together have lifted Asgard together. Hal or Sinestro on a best day couldn't even compare to these feats. Although there powers are not physically related, there going to have a hard time escaping a physical brawl with Thor when that's all he's going to try to do. They will be on the defensive side most of the battle, and it doesn't help when your not powerful enough to shield against your enemy's attacks. Although I can see Hal, and Sinestro combining there shields together to block the attacks, but once Thor see's this, he's going to muster up some of the powerful attacks at his disposal.
Durability wise, Thor beats them by a large margin. Thor is a lot more durable than the Lanterns. Thor has been seen taking nuclear explosions point blank, and barely being harmed. Or tanking multiple blasts from being's as powerful as the Silver Surfer, Firelord, Loki, and other Marvel powerhouse. Last time I checked Hal & Sinestro was more durable on the energy side, than the physical side. Which is going to put them at a even bigger disadvantage seeing as Thor uses more physical attacks than energy. Hal, and Sinestro both had there arm broken, and were easily bloodied by being's who looked to be barely trying. Hal had his arm broken by Darkseid, and Sinestro by Martian Manhunter. Not to mention that these being's are in Thor's weight class suggest that it can be easily replicated by Thor, who if grabs there arms can rip it off, or casually hit them with the full force strike of Mjolnir which would one-shot either of them.
Hal broken arm from Darkseid, and easily bloodied. Darkseid blasts him away with the Omega Beams, but truth be told I doubt Darkseid was using the full force.
Martian Manhunter has engaged Sinestro in combat to which point Manhunter bloody's Sinestro, and brakes his arm.
Heck Hal a guy who can probably lift 25 tons or so snapped Sinestro's neck. Imagine what Thor would do...
While Thor being punched by Rogue with the force to destroy a diamond, makes him blink
Now look what a morals off Thor can muster up
Thor's lightning is magical, and has struck down Odin to his knees in pain with Mjolnir amped by lightning.
Here is Thor blocking an attack that was going to destroy a planet with his storm
Thor's lightning attacks are so powerful that he was making a powerful storm in Asgard, and it was felt all the way in earth.
Tidal waves, and storms.
Current Thor was able to BFR a amped up Hulk with Mjolnir in to space, while he was weakened from having a fight with Serpent, and Odin. This also shows how Thor can cover his whole body in electricty.
Blowing back Surtur with winds. Surtur is Odin level.
Hurts Glory, a being as powerful as Odin. Winds from 1000 worlds
Anti-Blast. As hot as powerful as a star
Lightning powerful enough to heat the ground
Powerful enough to tear a planet a part
So tell me, how do they compare to that sort of power? They can't defend against it, they can't compete with it, and they sure as hell can't do nothing about it. Thor is going to cave there heads in. What I noticed about Hal & Sinestro is that when they fatally injure, or kill there enemies it's because they are not as durable. We have never seen Hal or Sinestro fatally injure anybody as powerful as Thor, Superman, Captain Marvel or Martian Manhunter. Why? Because they don't have the power required to do so. They may be able to hurt them, but not fatally, or any lasting damage. Unless for example Superman stood there, and let Hal bash his face in. The best feat I've seen from Hal is him killing Krona, but I take this with a grain of salt, because Hal has never killed or hurt someone on that caliber before unless you bring up Pre Crisis Hal who was stopping time, and making kryptonite radiation. If Hal struggles to hurt being's like Superman, how all of a sudden does he kill a being even more powerful? Doesn't make sense does it? Krona had to either be weakened, Hal amped, or the writer needed a way to make Hal look extremely powerful. At least with Thor he's consistent. He fights being's more powerful than him all the time. If I remember correctly didn't Jon Stewart go to the full power of the ring, and destroyed Mogo? But at the cost of the ring being destroyed? If that's correct, shouldn't Hal's have been destroyed killing Krona who is far more powerful than Mogo? You can take this as you please, because at the end of the day your opinion on this matters. But Thor is seen hurting Skyfather level being's a lot, while Hal has one showing of killing a being who at best is Thanos level. ( I never seen Guardians as that powerful ). Guardians should be around Thanos's level.
In the end, the team loses to the God Of Thunder. Your turn, or kneel before the mighty Thor !
Clever Constructs
Thor's lightning attacks are so powerful that he was making a powerful storm in Asgard, and it was felt all the way in earth.
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