#1 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger

Morals On

In Character

Gear:

Bullseye - Twin Sais, Bow and Arrows, Shurikens, Box of Toothpicks

Red Hood - Twin Pistols, Twin Knives

Win by Death, KO, Incapacitation, BFR

Combatants start 50 feet apart

Fight takes place here:

#2 Posted by darktiger (4626 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok you make opening argument

#3 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20443 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL

This is from the Bullseye vs. Red Hood thread right?

#4 Edited by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

LOL

This is from the Bullseye vs. Red Hood thread right?

You got it!

@darktiger: Okay, Bullseye's biggest assets here are his agility, accuracy, and versatility. Since the combatants are fighting in a construction yard, he has all sorts of goodies lying around with which to augment his gear. Here he throws a hubcap with enough force to destroy a car, even after bouncing off of several walls:

Another example of his accuracy and lethality with richochets is another fight against Deadpool. He richochets an arrow around the room to headshot the mercenary. This also exhibits his anticipation, since he could predict where Deadpool's head would be even though the Merc with a Mouth was attacking him and not standing still.

With his accuracy, power, and anticipation skills, he should easily be able to get a kill on Red Hood. And with his total lack of morals, he has no qualms about killing people.

(Edit: Spelling.)

#5 Posted by darktiger (4626 posts) - - Show Bio

You got ro remember red hood's armor is bullet proof

and while not having as much accuracy as bullseye he can still hit him as bullseye doesn't have superhuman speed

red hood's speed and skill

#6 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger said:

You got ro remember red hood's armor is bullet proof

But he's up against someone who throws hubcaps with enough force to destroy cars. I showed him headshotting Deadpool in the middle of a fight, and if he does the same to Jason with a chunk of concrete, that much force will snap Red Hood's neck. Also, are the eyes of his mask bulletproof? Because Bullseye is easily accurate enough to hit those. The only thing that saves Daredevil's eyes are his superhuman reflexes.

and while not having as much accuracy as bullseye he can still hit him as bullseye doesn't have superhuman speed

He may not be considered superhuman, but he has no trouble against bullets. Feats show that he's easily a bullet dodger. Here he dodges fire from a group of assailants, even though they're surrounding him and have automatic rifles. He also headshots all of them, so it's another good demonstration of his accuracy.

Here, he's able to dodge repeated blasts from Cyclops, who is an extremely accurate marksman in his own right.

So he should have no trouble dodging Red Hood's fire while returning extraordinarily accurate fire.

#7 Posted by cmyers1980 (261 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Hood could shoot Bullseye while he was throwing something at him. Red Hood just has to pull a trigger but Bullseye has to wind his hand or arm back to throw a projectile at Red Hood. Red Hood has fought people on Bullseye's level and above him. If you are skilled enough Bullseye's aim will become null and void if he can't hit you like has happened in the past. I KNOW FOR A FACT RED HOOD IS A BETTER MARTIAL ARTIST THAN BULLSEYE SO HE BEATS HIM EASILY.

#8 Posted by k4tzm4n (34907 posts) - - Show Bio
@cmyers1980: Dude, wait until user vs user debates are over before chiming in.
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#9 Posted by jashro44 (25342 posts) - - Show Bio

@cmyers1980:Challenge a viner thread are meant to be one on one debates between 2 people. This is suppose ot be judged at the end of a debate based on who debated better.

#10 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger: Bump!

#11 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger: Bump for a debate I'm really interested in!

#12 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7925 posts) - - Show Bio

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#13 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger:

A few examples of Bullseye's ridiculous versatility with random objects.

Cuts Deadpool's throat with a straw:

Kills a woman from 100 yards through a window and then interrogates a man, both times using only toothpicks:

Casually tosses an arrow straight through Daken's hand and shoulder:

And my personal favorite, hitting Venom in the eye with a yappy dog:

With his incredible versatility and the wealth of sharp pointy objects in a construction site, Bullseye can use his accuracy and ricochets to perforate Jason.

#14 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a debate I'm really interested in. Are you going to keep debating, or should I challenge someone else?

#15 Posted by darktiger (4626 posts) - - Show Bio

@Esquire said:

This is a debate I'm really interested in. Are you going to keep debating, or should I challenge someone else?

yes I will red hood has physical stats over bullseye plus is a better jamd to hand fighter

#16 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

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#17 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger said:

yes I will red hood has physical stats over bullseye

Not from what I've seen. Bullseye has bullet-speed reflexes, able to react to bullets and deflect them back at the shooter:

He's stated to have enhanced (greater than peak human) reflexes and agility in his latest handbook entry, as well:

He's kept up with Daredevil and even Gambit in agility and rooftop chases and is a proven bullet dodger, so his agility is at least peak human. He throws things with speeds that would require incredible strength, at least peak human. What makes you think that Red Hood has better physical stats?

plus is a better jamd to hand fighter

Jason has fought Nightwing fairly evenly, but Bullseye has fought Daredevil fairly evenly. Daredevil is more skilled and agile than Grayson, and Bullseye has even beaten him. Lester has adamantium-reinforced knuckles to let him hit harder, another advantage in h2h. He's also fought and beaten Elektra in hand-to-hand. In addition, Bullseye has twin sais, an advantage over Todd's knives, and he can throw things and use ricochets even in close combat. What makes you say Jason is better at hand-to-hand?

#18 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

Still no evidence of Jason being superior in hand-to-hand skill or physicals. Not even evidence to show how he could dodge Bullseye's projectiles.