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#1  Edited By AllStarSuperman

's Team:

Nightwing

Hitgirl (movie and comic)

Deathstroke

And if I need back up, RedHood

VS

's Team:

Cyclops

Tim Drake (new 52)

Azrael

Its Daytime around 3 pm

Its morals off

There is no prep

Location is Gotham City Rooftops

They start 300 feet apart

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#2  Edited By oceanmaster21

shud be interesting battle u go first

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@AllStarSuperman: @oceanmaster21: Which Azrael is this?

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@oceanmaster21: Okay ill start with hitgirl, there is blood and curse words but thats what you get with hitgirl,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfyJbz2kGbI

in this video it shows her owning a bunch of drug dealers and jumping rooftops with ease.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBKyduk3RE

i n this video it shoes her owns a crapload more people with guns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SbnqIIkXQc

even more ownage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uQOkA8zuMk

her learning to take bullets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va6oQ_2-jh8

her fighting pretty decent against a very skilled opponent.

now on to comic feats:

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3979/ka08014.jpg

her being horribly rude lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSWLVB-KIc8

comic version of apartment fight start at 2:34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdUUv-HY0Hc

starts with more of apartment fight scene, 2:55 and on shows how brutal hitgirl can really be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlAh5NkA_XI

3:20 her and big daddy sneaking into kickass room unnoticed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCmJO7iesis

just read this whole issue its awesome, also instead of only geting shot 3 times like the movie she gets shot 10 times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff3i1kWLM94

0:28-0:35 her taking at least 8 more bullets, 2:34 being awesome, 2:45 chopping a guys head off,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0f0U9l_MXw

0:50 useing a flame thrower to burn guys to death, 1:23-2:24 hitgirl murders a bunch of dudes,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiN-YgFWsxI

2:08 throws a hammer at a dudes head! 6:04 shoots people,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFSthmTGepM

0:01-2:51 takeing down a bunch of people blowing up a building, driving a moped fast enough to beat marcus home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jROrWGMe9qs

begining to 8:40 shows hitgirls awesomeness she murders about a billion people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5bnkE1ewSY

5:20 to end hit girl jumping on a car and shoting everyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPUs07xJTXk

read the whole thing she does a LOT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ojBAQRQyLI

from begining to 2:40, her fight with mother russia, 5:42 she has smoke bombs,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UMbwxbgv8U&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7UMbwxbgv8U&has_verified=1

THIS LOOKS AWESOME!!!!! for this fight im saying she has her stick with blades on each end, her 2 swords, smoke bombs, three throwing knives, that rope with a knife on it, and 2 hand guns with 2 clips each. i know thats a lot but she relies on her weapons to make up for her size, and im saying shes gonna go for tim drake cause i doubt she will beat azrael or cyclops. remember that since shes from the "real world" she reads comics and she will automatically know to dodge cyclops' eye beams and to stay away from azrael. your turn next...

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#5  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@Esquire said:

@AllStarSuperman: @oceanmaster21: Which Azrael is this?

i guess i dont know id guess the current not jean-paul valley?

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@AllStarSuperman said:

@Esquire said:

@AllStarSuperman: @oceanmaster21: Which Azrael is this?

i guess i dont know id guess the current not jean-paul valley?

There's not really a 'current' Azrael as of the New-52, but I assume you mean Michael Lane. Just curious, thanks.

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#7  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@Esquire said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@Esquire said:

@AllStarSuperman: @oceanmaster21: Which Azrael is this?

i guess i dont know id guess the current not jean-paul valley?

There's not really a 'current' Azrael as of the New-52, but I assume you mean Michael Lane. Just curious, thanks.

well truthfully i didnt know his name i just knew is wasnt jean.

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#8  Edited By New_World_Order

Interesting debate.

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#9  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@ThunderGodsWrath: sure is, you won are last CaV, I bumped it but nobody voted so I guess you win.

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#10  Edited By New_World_Order

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath: sure is, you won are last CaV, I bumped it but nobody voted so I guess you win.

Na, I don't want to win like that. I'll ask people to vote.

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#11  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath: sure is, you won are last CaV, I bumped it but nobody voted so I guess you win.

Na, I don't want to win like that. I'll ask people to vote.

OK, thanks

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#12  Edited By New_World_Order

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@ThunderGodsWrath: sure is, you won are last CaV, I bumped it but nobody voted so I guess you win.

Na, I don't want to win like that. I'll ask people to vote.

OK, thanks

No problem

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#13  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@Esquire: turns out he did mean Jean-Paul Valley

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#14  Edited By oceanmaster21

heres robin kicking the hell out of superman jaw

this when he was able to defeat superboy

to be honest even tho tim drake is good hitgirl dominates him after a goodfight if there was prep tim drake wud win but without and seeing how good she is ur girl wins so thts vote 1 for you

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dude as much as i am a fanboy of tim drake looking at hitgirl and the information i have gained on her i cant lie she wud totaly dominate him even tho hes done some crazy things before and has beaten some of the best of the best i say u win round 1

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#15  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@oceanmaster21: ok cool, thanks for putting the pictures here. yeah I'm not a huge time drake fan but he is cool. It seems that nightwing and redhood became more powerful in the new 52 but Tim drake stayed the came or maybe not quite as good. Is that true or am I making this up?

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#16  Edited By oceanmaster21

he gotten a little stronger physically more brutal but hasnt changed alot tho

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@oceanmaster21: ok i was just wondering thanks

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@oceanmaster21: okay will do my nightwing one now.

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This is the most impressive agility/speed feats ever,Grayson was able to catch a speeding train and defeat a psycopath in mere seconds
This is the most impressive agility/speed feats ever,Grayson was able to catch a speeding train and defeat a psycopath in mere seconds

Dodging speeding bullets or mini missiles (I don't have sure what is really is)

More agility/speed

Dodging bullets
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Nightwing suit is able to generate eletrical charges and make Spectrum Analysis
Nightwing suit is able to generate eletrical charges and make Spectrum Analysis
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Despite being injured,Dick is still able to avoid the freakin huge demon's attack and give him a beat alongside her partner
Despite being injured,Dick is still able to avoid the freakin huge demon's attack and give him a beat alongside her partner
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Defeating a Talon (notice Dick is versed in swordfight)
Defeating a Talon (notice Dick is versed in swordfight)

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After take 4 throwing in knives on the chest,Dick is able to standing still
After take 4 throwing in knives on the chest,Dick is able to standing still
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Surviving a fatal free fall (despite being weakened because of the blood loss)
Surviving a fatal free fall (despite being weakened because of the blood loss)

Sonic discs

Explosives discs

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/smoothjammin/all-images/108-390219/nw_bats5/105-2063327/

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/smoothjammin/all-images/108-390219/nw_bats3/105-2063321/

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/smoothjammin/all-images/108-390219/nw_bats2/105-2063319/

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/smoothjammin/all-images/108-390219/nw_bats/105-2063318/

heres nightwing dodgeing laser eyes, and him beating up bats

theres also a fight with lady shiva, but i cant find scans. he held his own against her and he had a broken rib. i see a bloodlusted nightwing being able to dodge, cyclops eye beam, and beating him in H2H.

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No heat. Just force.

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Cyclops has buttons in the palms of his gloves to open his visor.

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Optic Blasts

Cyclops blasts have been stated to go lightspeed in a few narrations. Note: Cyclops does not move at light speed and the servos in his visor move much slower. People can aim dodge him and have done so multiple times in the past, just like trying to guess trajectory.

Cyclops' blasts have pierced the Blob.

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Cyclops can decimate entire sentinels...and the area around them.

On a wide setting (meaning his blasts are weaker) Cyclops has completely obliterated a small portion of a forest to create a landing strip.

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Cyclops has ripped through buildings.

Cyclops has carved paths into mountains.

Cyclops has decimated entire icebergs to save a ship carrying hundreds of passengers.

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He has blasted steel doors off hinges, destroyed tanks, and damage massive sentinels, even from far away.

Wolverine compares Cyclops' blast to being crushed by a mountain.

Cyclops can also produce large holes in the ground and quickly. Can be used to trap opponents and create escape routes. Note the distance created used to shred through the pavement and earth.

Some more higher powered feats. (Had to condense as comp was spazzing out for indiviual enlarged scans.

  1. Cyclops has managed to further damage Onslaught
  2. Max power: Peeled the skin of World War Hulk, which is something even Wolverine said was a bit difficult to cut. (Note that it is a wide blast trying to engulf Hulk. Slimmer the beam, more powerful it is.)
  3. Obliterate half a giant Krakoa clone.

Grounds falling debris into powder using an optic blast saving some civilians.

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Cyclops has blasted Mjolnir from Thor's hands and into Iron Man. Lol

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Cyclops' wide blast has also pushed back the Human Torch's flames.
Cyclops' wide blast has also pushed back the Human Torch's flames.

Just some more visual awesome displays of his powers.

A mixed bag of a feat.

  1. Cyclops manages to dodge some goons shooting at him.
  2. He works around their synthetic ruby quartz armor by finding its weaknesses and using the environment to his advantage.
  3. This shows his intelligence in a tight circumstance and also the power his blasts have (blowing the ceiling off) and precision (cutting the armor off and using the chemical shelf behind it).

Cyclops also has very fine control over his blasts with a couple specifics.

  1. Melts the ice off Angel's wings use a low intensity beam to generate just enough friction to.
  2. Tagging Beast in a training exercise with enough force to knock him over without hurting him.
  3. Pushes an elephant back without harming it.
  4. Knocks a briefcase out of the Vanisher's hand without harming him or breaking the case.

Accuracy+Spatial Awareness Feats

I have a bunch of these but as single scans so I will post them in little groups.

  1. Pins Wolverine from a tree.
  2. Tags Storm while dodging (a hesitated) hand lightning bolt.
  3. Tags Ice Man from reflecting a shot off a mirror.
  4. Hits part of a chip.
  1. Spatial Awareness allows Cyclops to perform a ricochet shot; destroying all of the Murderworld cars in a single optic blast.
  2. Throws a coin up and its it dead center.
  3. Shoots the speedster Northstar.
  4. Nails a double ricochet shot to take out 2 guards.
  5. Not a real accuracy feat. But I do believe it shows the speed of his optic blast and his intuition in an attempt to hit Quicksilver which proves successful.
  1. Another spatial awareness shot.
  2. Uses a low powered beam to sink every ball in a pool table.
  3. In the last 2, he manages to disarm people without hurting their hands.
  1. First three scans show Cyclops disarming a room full off guards in one shot.
  2. 4th scan shows Cyclops tagging Beast in a reflect shot.
  3. 5th scan shows Cyclops taking multiple missiles out of the air in rapid succession.
  4. Final scan shows Cyclops hitting multiple machines in quick succession

1. Another spatial awareness feat blasting Beast.

2. Cyclops can ricochet blasts off even stone too.

Tags Hulk mid-leap and utilizes the environment to his advantage for a nice bank shot.

Skill Feats

Cyclops always analyzes his targets which allows him to come up with plans near on the fly.

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Cyclops holds his own against the X-Men when they thought he was the Phoenix. This shows him knowing and playing to the strengths and weaknesses of his team and utilizing the environment to his advantage.

Cyclops beats half a dozen thugs with his eyes clothes.

Cyclops with his back turned, disarms and beats a gunman before he gets the shot off.

Cyclops takes on a monster blindfolded and with a sword. He does eventually resort to his optic blasts though.

Agility

Just a few agility feats.

Headstand optic blast
Headstand optic blast
dodges blasts from Black Tom Cassidy
dodges blasts from Black Tom Cassidy
Flips off of some cars and uses his optic blast to push a car.
Flips off of some cars and uses his optic blast to push a car.
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Mental Defenses

And some mental defense feats to top it off.

Cyclops manages to suppress the void in a mental box.

And Emma mentions how tough his psychic defenses are, even when he sleeps.

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i think a bloodlusted cyclops can catch nightwing i mean he caught thor i had the scan but it wont post but he cought thor and if u see my post his blast even caught the speedster i had a scan were he fought wolverine and won in a hand to hand fight but yea cyclops can catch nightwing

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#20  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@oceanmaster21: good job that was a really good post about cyclops. i never knew he had so much control over the power of his laser eyes. but as it stands i still think nightwings faster and the better fighter, cyclops did have decent agility though. also i have scans of nightwing dodgeing lasers from batman. you said this:

"i think a bloodlusted cyclops can catch nightwing i mean he caught thor i had the scan but it wont post but he cought thor and if u see my post his blast even caught the speedster i had a scan were he fought wolverine and won in a hand to hand fight but yea cyclops can catch nightwing"

if they wont post can you just give me the link?

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#21  Edited By oceanmaster21

i sent u a pm for the link but i been reading somemore nightwing comics i say our nightwing and cyclops is a stalemate dont you.

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@oceanmaster21: ok ill do my Deathstroke one now:

Owning Batman.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/4384/batmanvsdeathstroke44hz.gif

Fast enough to shoot flash with his plasma staff, then trip him up.

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/1477/sladeflash3ea.jpg

Here, he is blindsided by a ton of men in heavy armor with huge guns....he kicks the poop out of 'em and takes their guns.....they all die.

Slade says “I’m a killing machine!"

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/9134/sladedie14dz.jpg

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Slade fights and kills a Lion with nothing but a little knife.

http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/2257/sladelion3rm.jpg

Here’s one of Deathstroke’s first appearances. What’s he do? He takes out kid flash.

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/5296/sladekidflash7bi.jpg

Slade, not actually wanting to fight because his target is getting away, still basically K.O’s Batman in a few hits.

http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bmvds16qm.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1034/bmvds29ye.jpg

Again, Batman attacks from behind while Slade is busy. Slade still doesn’t want to fight, but he basically knocks Batman out again.

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/839/bmvds37xt.jpg

Slade completely owned her (Cassiandra Cain) both times they fought, I mean she specifially realizes “he was toying with her."

http://img449.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bgds42kq.jpg

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Durability feat: Dude gets at least 40 rounds from a big anti-tank machine gun straight into the chest, point blank. He still has enough umf totake down the guy.

Slade’s senses are amplified thousands of times that of a human.

Slade is very fast. He gets sneak blitzed by Kid Flash. He took as second to realize what was going on, but when he did, he was able to move with KF's punch, then to kick him and K.O him.

hers him fighting some of the JL. i think some pictures are missing:

He's hired to kill a chick. Nightwing is trying to protect her. NW keeps blindsiding Slade and Slade K.O's him a couple times and beats the breaks off him while trying to finish his job. NW pays Slade off not to kill anyone.

Slade, being half his normal speed/strength/agility dies at the hand of Deadshot. When he comes back to life, his full power comes back!

Here's his full powered healing: Heals from being slit all the way down his chest by a surgical knife in a second or two.

Well, this is a speed/strength/durability feat all in one.

Basically, Slade jumps off what seems to be a couple hundred feet building after a woman who also went over, he lands on his feet, crushing a car, then is fast enough to jump back up and catch a girl who was more than 20 feet away and less than a foot away from the ground.

I was gonna use new 52 deathstroke but that would kinda give me a unfair strenght advantage to. i still think preflashpoint deathstroke can beat Azrael though.

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#23  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@oceanmaster21 said:

i sent u a pm for the link but i been reading somemore nightwing comics i say our nightwing and cyclops is a stalemate dont you.

i could not find the scans, as of now i think that hitgirl beats tim drake, nightwing and cyclops stalemate (if cyclops can hold him off with lasers and not try to beat him H2H), then i see Deathstroke beating Azrael, and killing cyclops easy.

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#24  Edited By oceanmaster21

well there not scans hardly for azrael but he 2 ton strenght he has tons of weapons he has a demon voice tht talks to him he fought batman robin and nightwing at the same time and was wooping them but deathstroke has to but lol i can say u won i dont have anything else to say the best man won congrats my fellow kryptonian brother

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#25  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@oceanmaster21 said:

well there not scans hardly for azrael but he 2 ton strenght he has tons of weapons he has a demon voice tht talks to him he fought batman robin and nightwing at the same time and was wooping them but deathstroke has to but lol i can say u won i dont have anything else to say the best man won congrats my fellow kryptonian brother

thanks, but do you still want to take a vote on it? do you not have any pictures of azrael?