#1 Edited by nickzambuto (13309 posts) - - Show Bio

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. We have quite a match for you tonight! Playing the part of the sexy seductress commonly referred to as Ada Wong, we have !

And playing the part of Dick Grayson, more commonly known as Nightwing and the former Robin, !

It's a classic game of hide n' seek we have here, Ada being airdropped into a local Oscorp Tower with the assignment of eliminating it's head researcher, and Nightwing, having received a tip of Ms. Wong's exploits, taking it upon himself to infiltrate the facility from ground level and put a stop to it.

Both combatants are aware of the other's presence, they both have full knowledge, and are actively seeking each other out. The facility is being patrolled by top of the line Security Enforcers out for blood.

For the sake of the match, this facility is equipped with high tech signal jammers. All forms of radar and image sensoring are now inoperable. Besides that, standard gear for all.

#2 Posted by Marksman (1364 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh. This should be cool.

#3 Posted by nick_hero22 (6805 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing easily

#4 Posted by nickzambuto (13309 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22 said:

Nightwing easily

AAA+ post would read again

#5 Posted by nick_hero22 (6805 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@nick_hero22 said:

Nightwing easily

AAA+ post would read again

Thank You

#6 Posted by nickzambuto (13309 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say Nightwing has an edge in terms of pure martial mastery. That, plus his gadgets, should earn him a definite win up close and personal.

However, lucky for me, this is not an up close and personal fight. Ada is in her element here, as the single most highly renowned and sought after secret agent her planet has to offer, sneaking and spying come as easy as breathing. Nightwing is obviously only a step below Batman in stealth, and eluding him will not be easy. But considering Ada regularly sneaks around characters just as elite as him if not more so, she should be warranted an advantage in this department.

Nightwing's usual canon fodder is thug A and thug B. Comparatively, Ada's life revolves around killing armies of monstrous BOWs and mutated super soldiers.

^ Solo infiltrates Derek Simmons' heavily guarded submarine base, eluding dozens of genetically modified monsters and mutants. Literally the first thing you do in her RE6 scenario (starts at 3:00)

Ada's unmatched skill and wit should allow her to get the drop on Nightwing. From there, all it takes is an expertly aimed Sniper Round and it's mission complete (till Big Daddy Bat gets wind of what happened at least)

#7 Posted by ImmortalOne (3368 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: Nice match, I'll get to this soon.

#8 Posted by Ddecourt (796 posts) - - Show Bio

Ada could slip a W, maybe. But I'll go with Nightwing.

#9 Posted by ImmortalOne (3368 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

I would say Nightwing has an edge in terms of pure martial mastery. That, plus his gadgets, should earn him a definite win up close and personal.

However, lucky for me, this is not an up close and personal fight. Ada is in her element here, as the single most highly renowned and sought after secret agent her planet has to offer, sneaking and spying come as easy as breathing. Nightwing is obviously only a step below Batman in stealth, and eluding him will not be easy. But considering Ada regularly sneaks around characters just as elite as him if not more so, she should be warranted an advantage in this department.

Nightwing's usual canon fodder is thug A and thug B. Comparatively, Ada's life revolves around killing armies of monstrous BOWs and mutated super soldiers.

^ Solo infiltrates Derek Simmons' heavily guarded submarine base, eluding dozens of genetically modified monsters and mutants. Literally the first thing you do in her RE6 scenario (starts at 3:00)

Ada's unmatched skill and wit should allow her to get the drop on Nightwing. From there, all it takes is an expertly aimed Sniper Round and it's mission complete (till Big Daddy Bat gets wind of what happened at least)

Okay, sorry for the late reply. I was a bit busy with schoolwork and stuff, so I couldn't devote much time to this.

First off, sneaking/fighting against the enemies in Resident Evil really isn't much of a feat. I'm not downplaying her stealth or fighting, but the enemies she faces really haven't shown much intelligence or fighting skill. I mean seriously, throughout the whole video, she had enemies completely failing to hit her from a few feet away, not notice her as she walked up right behind them, just stand there as Ada hid behind cover and fired at them, etc.

And I'm not sure about this, but would videos like those count as feats? Because really, it's all gameplay. Another player could have just as easily been killed from the first monster they met.

First off, in counter to your sniper strategy, Nightwing has managed to detect a sniper, then dodge his shots, after the sniper fired- http://s932.beta.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/nw133-sniperdodge.jpg.html

Disarms a man before he can pull the trigger on a gun, then disarms another man by throwing the gun- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/NightwingAnnualvi.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/NightwingAnnualvii.jpg

Nightwing accurately disarms a goon with a Wing-Ding- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/NHuntress4i.jpg

And in stealth, he's know slouch either. Is able to quickly disappear into the shadows- http://s932.beta.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Stealth/nw72-shadowstealth.jpg.html

#10 Posted by nickzambuto (13309 posts) - - Show Bio

First off, sneaking/fighting against the enemies in Resident Evil really isn't much of a feat. I'm not downplaying her stealth or fighting, but the enemies she faces really haven't shown much intelligence or fighting skill. I mean seriously, throughout the whole video, she had enemies completely failing to hit her from a few feet away, not notice her as she walked up right behind them, just stand there as Ada hid behind cover and fired at them, etc.

The enemies in RE4-6 aren't the same dumb zombies as the classic games. Ganado and Majini are just as clever as regular humans, and the J'avo of RE6 are directly stated to actually posses enhanced intelligence, in addition to superhuman physical attributes, senses included. Sneaking through an army of new breeds shows for more elitism than random thugs. Everything you listed in offense of their skill is pure gameplay mechanics, same as Ada getting shot in the face and not batting an eye.

And I'm not sure about this, but would videos like those count as feats? Because really, it's all gameplay. Another player could have just as easily been killed from the first monster they met.

Canonically, the games lead us to believe that Ada only ever fired her gun about 4 or 5 times total throughout the entire story. She made it through each stealth section perfectly.

First off, in counter to your sniper strategy, Nightwing has managed to detect a sniper, then dodge his shots, after the sniper fired-

Most sniper rifles fire at above mach speeds, so normally it's impossible to dodge a round purely by sound. Nightwing simply lucked out that the assassin had a crappy gun. The same luxury will not be afforded him against Ada's high powered rifle.

23:10 (goes on to protect Jake and Sherry from an entire horde of mutants without anyone even suspecting she was there)

Disarms a man before he can pull the trigger on a gun, then disarms another man by throwing the gun-

Ada has disarmed Leon Kennedy, though admittedly he did take the advantage, that's a lot tougher than a random goon considering Leon would own Nightwing.

Yeah, I went there.

You can see how unbelievably speedy she is here, clearing the distance and stealing the agent's gun before he can react. Shows off her CC skill at the same time, stalemating one of the greatest fighters on the planet without even giving her all (she got captured on purpose to infiltrate their base, before easily escaping her confines and stealing top secret government files)

And in stealth, he's know slouch either. Is able to quickly disappear into the shadows-

Ada disappearing off the face of the planet is literally a running gag in Resident Evil 2, always running off and vanishing from thin air, appearing later at the strangest of places. She literally falls from the sky at one point.

5:00 (disappears around a corner. Does the same thing 5 dozen times more later on)

#11 Posted by ImmortalOne (3368 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

Most sniper rifles fire at above mach speeds, so normally it's impossible to dodge a round purely by sound. Nightwing simply lucked out that the assassin had a crappy gun. The same luxury will not be afforded him against Ada's high powered rifle.

Nightwing is able to dodge a point blank bullet. It's pressed against his chin, and he manages to dodge it in the time it takes to twitch a finger.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/79822/2818902-nw87_tarantula.jpg

And he's also moved fast enough to knock someone away from being shot by a sniper rifle.

http://s932.beta.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/nw72-marysniper.jpg.html

So I'd say Nightwing should be able to dodge anything Ada shoots at him.

@nickzambuto said:

Ada has disarmed Leon Kennedy, though admittedly he did take the advantage, that's a lot tougher than a random goon considering Leon would own Nightwing.

Yeah, I went there.

You can see how unbelievably speedy she is here, clearing the distance and stealing the agent's gun before he can react. Shows off her CC skill at the same time, stalemating one of the greatest fighters on the planet without even giving her all (she got captured on purpose to infiltrate their base, before easily escaping her confines and stealing top secret government files)

Nightwing managed to beat Owen Mercer, a speedster in a fist fight.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/79822/2833168-outsidersnwboomer1.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/79822/2833173-outsidersnwboomer2.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/79822/2833174-outsidersnwboomer3.jpg

5:00 (disappears around a corner. Does the same thing 5 dozen times more later on)

Nightwing managed to pull a Batman on Batman. And he didn't even have to walk around a corner to do it.

http://s932.beta.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Stealth/batmanwidegyre-wingstealth.jpg.html