Catwoman vs Bruce Wayne with amnesia

After being saved from another fight with a mind controlled Superman, Bruce Wayne got a head injury which makes him forget everything he learned after his parents died. Catwoman learns about his amnesia and decides to enter his house to steal some valuables. Suddenly, Bruce walks in and attempts to fight off Selina.

Rules

-pre/new 52 composite Catwoman

-Bruce Wayne has amnesia and doesn't remember anything after his parents died

-in character

-Catwoman has standard equipment

-random encounter

-winner by knockout

This is almost impossible to call. Bruce would still have his instinctive muscle memory, and he's always been a very naturally talented fighter, which is probably more important at this point than raw knowledge.

I'll give Catwoman the benefit of the doubt and say she steals what she wants and escapes, but if it comes down to a fight she'd probably lose.

Hard to call. I'd probably give Selena some credit here.

Bruce. He still has his physicals and should still be able to throe punches and kicks and defend himself.

@jayc1324: That means nothing. Red Hood was in the same condition and got his butt kicked by Cheshire.

Selina stomps.

@somayareece: His phsyicals do mean a lot. He still has crazy durability and striking power.

@jayc1324: Selina has fought him plenty of times to know that. She has the knowledge advantage in this fight.

Red Hood =/= Bruce Wayne

You're right. Red Hood > Bruce Wayne

But Selina is faster, in fact she's almost as fast as Nightwing.

@nickzambuto: not by feats

I am not sure about that.

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If your talking about the race towards the diamonds Dick did beat her. And Cat woman has said Dick is slightly faster than batman. So I don't think Selina has an edge in speed based on that. Maybe she has other feats (I'm not very knowledgeable on her).

Selina

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@jayc1324 said:

@somayareece: His phsyicals do mean a lot. He still has crazy durability and striking power.

But Selina is faster, in fact she's almost as fast as Nightwing.

I am not sure about that.

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If your talking about the race towards the diamonds Dick did beat her. And Cat woman has said Dick is slightly faster than batman. So I don't think Selina has an edge in speed based on that. Maybe she has other feats (I'm not very knowledgeable on her).

In that scene where Selina stated Nightwing was slightly faster than Batman, she was keeping right up with him, so I'd say she's the bridge between Batman and Nightwing.

@nickzambuto: Nightwing isn't faster than batman either. He doesn't have the feats to say so, from what I know.

There feats really aren't that different, there's only so many ways to dodge a bullet. Nightwing however has at least two statements saying he's faster.

@nickzambuto: Not just dodging bullets though. The feat where batman switches the two tea cups literally in the time it takes to blink.

What about when Nightwing was jumping around and dodging Kryptonian heat vision at almost point blank range from Batman HIMSELF after Batman gained Superman's powers? Or what about in Bruce Wayne: Fugitive when Nightwing wanted to fight and Batman was just doing everything he could to simply run away, even using his grapple gun, yet Nightwing's raw speed ended up catching Batman by the cape anyway? And what about Nightwing dodging a bunch of Batman One Million's batarangs which Bruce Wayne can not do? And then what about the two statements from Nightrunner and Catwoman, who have both seen Batman in action and Catwoman specifically who knows Bruce's capabilities extremely well, admitting that Nightwing was faster within moments of seeing him in action?

Obviously Batman has MORE feats to pull from, but Nightwing is usually portrayed as faster.

@nickzambuto: Fair. Like I said I don't know Nightwing's feats like I know Batman's. But I don't think the Bruce Wayne: Murderer (Fugitive) encounter is in Dick's favor. I have the book in my hands right now, and Robin comments how Dick can't even land a punch. I also don't see Dick getting his cape anywhere. In this instance Batman was faster. Dick didn't land a single hit in that entire fight once Bruce started dodging.

Dick couldn't land any hits because Batman was straight up running away, that doesn't mean he could dodge and parry every blow from Dick in close quarters and counterattack without getting hit.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/batman600-playcatch.jpg.html

Dick did indeed grab Batman's cape and throw him even when Batman was using his grapple gun, midway through the page.

@nickzambuto: Yes Bruce was running because he didn't want to fight. Later when he stops dodging and starts fighting back, Dick STILL can't land a hit. Bruce lands two and blocks or dodges all of Dick's. Seem like he can dodge or parry every blow in close quarters, for a short while at least, seeing as how he did it here.

Ah I see, he does grab his cape. That doesn't prove anything though seeing how far away the cape is from Batman's body. It's not really dick catching Bruce, he just caught his cape, which was trailing a bit behind.

@jayc1324: Can you post the scan of that section of there fight?

I think Catwoman would lose the longer the fight dragged out. Bruce's instincts and muscle memory would eventually come into play, and he's still physically superior.

@nickzambuto: ^ Here ya go. Sorry for crappy quality, I'm on my phone so these are actually just pictures of the comic book and not scans. Its still clear enough yo see though. The fight ends after this because after Bruce dodges a punch Dick accidentally punches through the glass case of Jason Todd's Robin costume

@jayc1324: We're talking about speed here though, I think that Nightwing being able to outrace Batman and catch him by the cape, even when Batman was using his grapple gun, proves that Nightwing is faster, whereas Batman winning the fight overall proves he's a better fighter.

@nickzambuto: Because Batman was using the grappling hook I can see why Dick even getting his cape can show how fast he is. They are really close though. And yeah it's true that Bruce could just be skilled enough to not get tagged.

batman would Wombo combo her in the face

So the OP is intenting for Bruce to be virtually skilless in combat? I don't see how this is fair.