#1 Posted by Aseptic (297 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm or Rogue?

#2 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

storm

#3 Posted by Malewis (268 posts) - - Show Bio

storm from miles away.

#4 Posted by Doomhunter (289 posts) - - Show Bio

Yup,storm...in order to win rogue would have to get close and that's simply (almost) impossible...

#5 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Rogue faster than Storm? If that's the case she can knock her block off with one punch.

#6 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

i'd give it to storm.

#7 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Copy says:

"i'd give it to storm."

I mean don't get me wrong, I think Storm can do it, but if Rogue gets in close enough to punch her, Storm's going to be a smear on her fist.

#8 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Copy says:
"i'd give it to storm."
I mean don't get me wrong, I think Storm can do it, but if Rogue gets in close enough to punch her, Storm's going to be a smear on her fist."

yea but the problem is getting their cause a lightning bolt so fast you can't blink or you won't see it should do alot of damage to rogue before she can reach storm.

#9 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Copy says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Copy says:
"i'd give it to storm."
I mean don't get me wrong, I think Storm can do it, but if Rogue gets in close enough to punch her, Storm's going to be a smear on her fist."
yea but the problem is getting their cause a lightning bolt so fast you can't blink or you won't see it should do alot of damage to rogue before she can reach storm."

Storm is controlling the lightening bolt. She'd have to be fast enough and accurate enough to hit Rogue. Rogue's not just standing there saying "hit me", she's moving pretty fast.

#10 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Copy says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Copy says:
"i'd give it to storm."
I mean don't get me wrong, I think Storm can do it, but if Rogue gets in close enough to punch her, Storm's going to be a smear on her fist."
yea but the problem is getting their cause a lightning bolt so fast you can't blink or you won't see it should do alot of damage to rogue before she can reach storm."
Storm is controlling the lightening bolt. She'd have to be fast enough and accurate enough to hit Rogue. Rogue's not just standing there saying "hit me", she's moving pretty fast. "

i know i'm just saying mutiple lightning bolts should hit hurt.

#11 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Copy says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Copy says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Copy says:
"i'd give it to storm."
I mean don't get me wrong, I think Storm can do it, but if Rogue gets in close enough to punch her, Storm's going to be a smear on her fist."
yea but the problem is getting their cause a lightning bolt so fast you can't blink or you won't see it should do alot of damage to rogue before she can reach storm."
Storm is controlling the lightening bolt. She'd have to be fast enough and accurate enough to hit Rogue. Rogue's not just standing there saying "hit me", she's moving pretty fast. "
i know i'm just saying mutiple lightning bolts should hit hurt."

If she can land them, Storm'll win, but if not, Rogue pulverizes her.

#12 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Copy says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Copy says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Copy says:
"i'd give it to storm."
I mean don't get me wrong, I think Storm can do it, but if Rogue gets in close enough to punch her, Storm's going to be a smear on her fist."
yea but the problem is getting their cause a lightning bolt so fast you can't blink or you won't see it should do alot of damage to rogue before she can reach storm."
Storm is controlling the lightening bolt. She'd have to be fast enough and accurate enough to hit Rogue. Rogue's not just standing there saying "hit me", she's moving pretty fast. "
i know i'm just saying mutiple lightning bolts should hit hurt."
If she can land them, Storm'll win, but if not, Rogue pulverizes her."

what about the full force of a hurricane? Storm did that to hulk and his flying buddies and the couldn't get near her.

#13 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Time is the main issue here. Storm needs too much time for alot of her powers. I say she can only take Rogue if she can stay away from her.

#14 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21841 posts) - - Show Bio

bump, This is Rogue with Ms Marvel powers correct? She should win to my knowledge.

#15 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10457 posts) - - Show Bio

Even Ms. Marvel powered Rogue would not clear a majority against Storm. Storm is a faster flyer, more tactically capable, has the greater range of attack, and both her bolts and winds have been effective against Rogue in the past when she had Ms.Marvel powers, and opponents more durable than Rogue. I don't think it would be an easy fight for either but I think the odds favor Storm for a majority.

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#16 Edited by comic_book_fan (5622 posts) - - Show Bio

storms power is insanely powerful it just takes a while to get going if rogue don't move in and take her down fast she is screwed but there is a good chance rogue can do that.

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#17 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10457 posts) - - Show Bio

storms power is insanely powerful it just takes a while to get going if rogue don't move in and take her down fast she is screwed but there is a good chance rogue can do that.

This part isn't really the case. Most of Storm's power applications happen at insane speeds.

She has conjured a tornado around Rogue to BFR and trap her in it before she even knew what was happening, conjured a tornado around DP Jean Grey and flash-froze classic Colossus in the time it takes to blink, and has dropped the temperature -200 degrees inside of a gun inside the time it took the Hatut Zeraze holding it to pull the trigger. And Storm has already outflown Rogue when she had classic Ms.Marvel powers. She shouldn't have a problem tagging Rogue or keeping her distance long enough to KO her. Storm's main problem, if this is Ms.Marvel powered Rogue, is her impressive durability. Storm would have to put in effort if she wanted to KO Rogue with raw power, which could expose her to potentially losing as you stated, but she would opt for more clever tactics (like trapping Rogue in an oxygen-less vacuum) long before that happens.

The only applications of Storm's powers that can take time are large scale or unnatural weather effects (i.e. - jovian pressure field took a while for her to build). She doesn't need to build power of this level to beat Rogue.

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#18 Posted by Experio (15914 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm

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#19 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@thunderbolt30: Rogue with Ms Marvels powers can survive in space IIRC, trapping her in a vacuum shouldn't work.

#20 Edited by Storm Calling (3588 posts) - - Show Bio

@thunderbolt30: Rogue with Ms Marvels powers can survive in space IIRC, trapping her in a vacuum shouldn't work.

I don't recall her being able to survive unaided in space? Have any specific references?

#21 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10457 posts) - - Show Bio

@thunderbolt30: Rogue with Ms Marvels powers can survive in space IIRC, trapping her in a vacuum shouldn't work.

That was PIS when Carol/Binary knocked her off the planet. I'm not aware of any other instance where she survived unaided in space. IIRC Rogue nearly drowned twice while she had Ms. Marvel powers so she does need air. I believe one of the times was when Malice/Polaris trapped under water in a bunch of metal wreckage and she was saved by Dazzler, and there was another occasion when Cable, Storm and Rogue went to save a ship trapped in a hurricane and she made comment about running out air and drowning while she was underwater.

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#22 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@thunderbolt30: @storm_calling:

How did I miss this? It was when she went to confront Silver Surfer, while Jean chased Binary through hyperspace, in Xmen unlimited # 13. She spent a large portion of her "screen" time in that issue in space unaided. I wouldn't call this PIS due to them being on a space mission and having access to space suits, seems like they were trying to make a point of Rogue being able to survive in space due to her absorbing Miss Marvels original powers which included a suit that allowed her to do the same thing. IIRC said suit also lost this ability after Rogue stole her powers, seems to me drowing is the real PIS considering the origins of Rogues powers at the time.

#23 Edited by THUNDERBOLT30 (10457 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans said:

@thunderbolt30: @storm_calling:

How did I miss this? It was when she went to confront Silver Surfer, while Jean chased Binary through hyperspace, in Xmen unlimited # 13. She spent a large portion of her "screen" time in that issue in space unaided. I wouldn't call this PIS due to them being on a space mission and having access to space suits, seems like they were trying to make a point of Rogue being able to survive in space due to her absorbing Miss Marvels original powers which included a suit that allowed her to do the same thing. IIRC said suit also lost this ability after Rogue stole her powers, seems to me drowing is the real PIS considering the origins of Rogues powers at the time.

But...she has also been in space in a space suit. It has been a long time since I read it but I think in X-Men #100 (Giant Sized Annual or Special). IIRC, she and few other X-Men were in space helping with some space repairs or something along those lines and was wearing a space suit. I think there may even have been a point where shewas blown out into space outside of her suit but could not remain there indefinitely.

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#24 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@thunderbolt30: You seem to have more instances of her needing to breathe so going by that I can agree the vacuum attack could work. I'm a little rusty on my Rogue facts, you know I'm a Phoenix expert :)

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#26 Edited by ssj_god (5207 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans:

really? .. i might need a few phoenix feats.. can you help :D

#27 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god:

Sorry for the late response, yes I can help. Jean Grey, and Phoenix are my specialties

#28 Posted by ssj_god (5207 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god:

Sorry for the late response, yes I can help. Jean Grey, and Phoenix are my specialties

ahh .. well ok alright .. u see .. i'm not directly using phoenix, but in one tournament, i'm using full powered future nate grey.

it's going like this.... as it was confirmed at the beginning that nate's psionic output literally matches the phoenix, and as being the child of jean, nate also inherited the phoenix power potential from the alfa mutant, so i'll be using some phoenix feats to express full powered nate... but i don't know too many feats for phoenix :D

ohh and.. please no bigger feat than defeating a starving galactus. because the op restricted characters to galactus level .. if i present feats that he can easily defeat galactus, then my character could get banned :D

#29 Posted by NinjaWarrior268 (1490 posts) - - Show Bio

I was expecting this to be a fight between Catwoman and some other cat person.

Storm takes it