Cassandra Cain vs Prince of Orphans

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Location: Dojo...really who cares

Who shall win?

Edit: Yeah P.O.P. has to stay in solid form

Don't see what Cass can do, once the Prince goes into his mist form.

@_slim_ said:

Don't see what Cass can do, once the Prince goes into his mist form.

Wasnt he recently beaten in Defenders 6? Well I know he was beat and quote un quote killed (they even said he would be back) but yeah my point is that couldn't Cass replicate the same thing?

@daak1212: Was he in mist form when he was killed? Who beat him is important also. Do you know who beat him? But to make it fair I would add "Prince can't go into mist form. He has to stay solid". Nevertheless even if solid, i say POP wins.

@daak1212 said:

@_slim_ said:

Don't see what Cass can do, once the Prince goes into his mist form.

Wasnt he recently beaten in Defenders 6? Well I know he was beat and quote un quote killed (they even said he would be back) but yeah my point is that couldn't Cass replicate the same thing?

You tell me? It seems you read the issue or at least know what took place in it. I haven't so I can't speak on it. It might not be his first move to go directly into his mist form, but once he does how will Cass counter that?

@pooty said:

@daak1212: Was he in mist form when he was killed? Who beat him is important also. Do you know who beat him? But to make it fair I would add "Prince can't go into mist form. He has to stay solid". Nevertheless even if solid, i say POP wins.

Actually that's why I asked the question. I know he was beat and thrown into a volcano but I have no idea who beat him or how. I know Silver Surfer was there so with that being said Im guessing that him and Strange must have had a big part in stopping him.

Okay Ima make an edit so he stays solid

Edit: Yeah my thinking for mist form (I have the Imortal Iron fist second and third trade) where when he beat Steel Serpent I thought he just covered the area and struck from the mist I didnt know it was kinda of a shadow kat thing.

@Vance Astro said:

Prince of Orphans.SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

Even in solid form?

Out of curiosity, I've been recently entertaining the thought that PoP is the greatest fighter in Marvel. Would you agree?

@Morpheus_ said:

Silver Surfer swallowed the Prince whole and spat him in the heart of a volcano. He soloed him.

Prior to it, Aman was solid when he floored and had Danny pinned down in two simple moves.

Wow okay, Lol at that defeat (I never read the issue and I'm planning to pick it up for PoP apperence)

In vol2? I dont remember this? Maybe I have a hazy memory of it but was it a fight in a room about Prince not joining their cause? All I know is that he hunted down Orson Randall over the ends of the earth and beat the holy hell out of Steel Serpent.

Also do you think that the defeat of Danny means he can take Cass?

@Morpheus_ said:

@daak1212: The Prince seemingly beating Danny occurred in the Defenders issue, not in IIF.

Let's put it this way, I rather doubt Cass could come anywhere near defeating Iron Fist with such ease, but I don't believe that feat alone is sufficient to conclude that the Prince would definitely win here.

Okay I'm definitely making a route for Defenders 6

Hmm I see, so feasible that he could but not conclusive.

Any other takers?

Prince, Cass cannot effect his Mist Form.

Nice Cass Pic though and Prince looks like he is a Star Wars Character

@Skaddix said:

Prince, Cass cannot effect his Mist Form.

I literally posted in the edit of the Op that Prince cant go mist

Oh Sorry that makes it more interesting but he did own Danny quickly so I lean Prince.

@Skaddix said:

Oh Sorry that makes it more interesting but he did own Danny quickly so I lean Prince.

Cass is quite the bad ass

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

Oh Sorry that makes it more interesting but he did own Danny quickly so I lean Prince.

Cass is quite the bad ass

Yeah but Danny is Top Tier, IMO Top 10, at Marvel. Cass has never beat a Top Tier DC Fighter that quickly. But yes Cass is quite a bad ass, one of my favorite DC characters and I quite miss her in the New 52 and to a lesser extent Steph.

@Skaddix said:

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

Oh Sorry that makes it more interesting but he did own Danny quickly so I lean Prince.

Cass is quite the bad ass

Yeah but Danny is Top Tier, IMO Top 10, at Marvel. Cass has never beat a Top Tier DC Fighter that quickly.

Actually your wrong, namely Shiva and Ravager.

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

Oh Sorry that makes it more interesting but he did own Danny quickly so I lean Prince.

Cass is quite the bad ass

Yeah but Danny is Top Tier, IMO Top 10, at Marvel. Cass has never beat a Top Tier DC Fighter that quickly.

Actually your wrong, namely Shiva and Ravager.

Ravager is in no way a top tier DC Fighter. Her precog is what makes her decent enough not her skill.

@Skaddix said:

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

Oh Sorry that makes it more interesting but he did own Danny quickly so I lean Prince.

Cass is quite the bad ass

Yeah but Danny is Top Tier, IMO Top 10, at Marvel. Cass has never beat a Top Tier DC Fighter that quickly.

Actually your wrong, namely Shiva and Ravager.

Ravager is in no way a top tier DC Fighter. Her precog is what makes her decent enough not her skill.

That kinda was my reason for putting up Ravager. Precog vs someone who reads moves. Remeber during that time Cass had pretty much no skill. She lost her ability to read and had to be trained by Batman. What about the Shiva incident?

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

Oh Sorry that makes it more interesting but he did own Danny quickly so I lean Prince.

Cass is quite the bad ass

Yeah but Danny is Top Tier, IMO Top 10, at Marvel. Cass has never beat a Top Tier DC Fighter that quickly.

Actually your wrong, namely Shiva and Ravager.

Ravager is in no way a top tier DC Fighter. Her precog is what makes her decent enough not her skill.

That kinda was my reason for putting up Ravager. Precog vs someone who reads moves. Remeber during that time Cass had pretty much no skill. She lost her ability to read and had to be trained by Batman. What about the Shiva incident?

Which Shiva incident? Still I was talking Danny Rand as top tier at Marvel skill wise which means roughly in my book a top 10 fighter. By Skill Wise I mean no chi fists, no precog, healing factors, etc.

@Vance Astro said:

Prince of Orphans.SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

@Skaddix said:

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

@daak1212 said:

@Skaddix said:

Oh Sorry that makes it more interesting but he did own Danny quickly so I lean Prince.

Cass is quite the bad ass

Yeah but Danny is Top Tier, IMO Top 10, at Marvel. Cass has never beat a Top Tier DC Fighter that quickly.

Actually your wrong, namely Shiva and Ravager.

Ravager is in no way a top tier DC Fighter. Her precog is what makes her decent enough not her skill.

That kinda was my reason for putting up Ravager. Precog vs someone who reads moves. Remeber during that time Cass had pretty much no skill. She lost her ability to read and had to be trained by Batman. What about the Shiva incident?

Which Shiva incident? Still I was talking Danny Rand as top tier at Marvel skill wise which means roughly in my book a top 10 fighter. By Skill Wise I mean no chi fists, no precog, healing factors, etc.

Ah I see. Okay but still she did beat Shiva and I think that was after the training with Batman

Heres the fight

/facepalm

Their in the opposite order. Read from bottom to top please

Edit: believe it or not this want the fight I wanted either but it's still proves my point

here it is

@Morpheus_ said:

@daak1212: He said Cassandra has never defeated a top tier DC fighter as fast as the Prince dispatched Iron Fist, which your scans prove. Both fights against Shiva were prolonged.

Whoops I thought he said that she never beat a top tier.

@Ferro Vida said:

@Vance Astro said:

Prince of Orphans.SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

I'm thinking this

Even in solid form?

@Ferro Vida said:

@daak1212 said:

@Ferro Vida said:

@Vance Astro said:

Prince of Orphans.SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

I'm thinking this

Even in solid form?

Yup.

Christ. Well I asked Vance a question but I guess I can always pose it to you as well, would your regard PoO as the best fighter in Marvel?

This might be the first match where I see Cass lose hand to hand

@Ferro Vida said:

@daak1212: I don't know if I would say that. He's quite possibly the most experienced fighter in Marvel, and he has some superhuman level feats that come entirely from his martial arts (sorta like Karate Kid). I honestly can't think of anyone who could beat him.

True he is pretty impressive. Still at least he is beatable in Solid Form. Without Magic, hard to beat in his Mist Form though.