And how many times did i ask you the same question, with you conveniently dodging it, and not asking it?
I've answered it about 61 times by now, the answer is a question you've been dodging.
LOL...how predictable...just like in the other thread...trying to downball Cassie, while ignoring all logic, and you get cornered, making stuff up, and lying...
Please, point out exactly where I've lied. Oh wait, you can't, because my argument is grounded in reality and does not exist simply to serve your cause of wanking Cassandra Cain to the moon and back.
Why lie dude?...i was the one that asked this question first, "why would anyone have the trouble of making a 3-inch-quartz window, to help secure a vault, if that quartz window couldn't sustain a bullet?" remember?
Yeees, and? This is relevant how? We both know this. Your response doesn't fit my question.
" There's no evidence...besides logic, you mean!...and i'm still waitting for you to answer to my first question, which you didn't and you won't, otherwise, this matter would be over.
In case, you forgot, the question is: " why would anyone have the trouble of making a 3-inch-quartz window, to help secure a vault, if that quartz window couldn't sustain a bullet? "...and don't answer me with another question, i want your honest opinion, on this one...anyway, you won't answer, because you haven't yet, and because you don't have a good answer....because there's none, except admitting that you're just trying do downball the feat by anymeans necessary, and ignoring all logic. "
I can see this is going to continue on until you actually address my response.
There's absolutely not a single goddamn freaking reason to even assume that window was bulletproof, the material it was made of is not bullet resistant, as the cleavage in a plate of quartz would be shattered by any type of ballistic attack, not a single reference is made to the window besides the fact that it's made of quartz, certainly not anything about it resisting gunfire. The vault it was in would draw no practical benefit from resisting bullets, because honestly, at what point are these guys gonna lock away people with guns in a vault that was cramped for a tiny asian girl?
So yeah, no where in the comic is it stated the window could stop a bullet, the material it's made of can't stop bullets and literally everything we know about it points to it not being bulletproof. You made that up to wank your favourite character. - Fact.
Of course not!...and that's why they had the trouble of making a quartz-window...maybe because quartz-window, is more pretty than a wall of bananas...lol.
...What the f*** are you talking about?
i'll repeat myself again..."i want your HONEST opinion on this one"...got it?...HONEST!...
Okay. You're full of it. That's my honest opinion.
I don't need to do anything...the scans are there for everyone to see them
Sure thing, just show me the scan where it says that window was bulletproof.
It doesn't?...can you prove it?
Sure I could, I could go and smash up my countertop with a hammer. Oh wait, I don't have to.
There's your 4th hardest substance in the world for you. Looks exactly like the quartz in the comic, too.
i never said that comic quartz was more durable, than real life quartz...you were the one that used real life exemples, remember?...your quartz-countertops?
Yes...And? You say that as if they contradict?
since real life quartz its "just" the fourth hardest natural material in the world?
-Still no evidence for that-
Here's the part that matters: " Countertops – Beautiful and durable granite countertops remain popular, but quartz composite – “the closest thing to no maintenance, bullet-proof countertop material available today” – is gaining ground. "
Ahahahahah...sorry, but i just couldn't hold it! xD...you tried to downball the quartz feat, by using your quartz-made-countertops as an exemple, and you still got owned...ahah.
Jesus H....Why am I even bothering to debate with you when you can't even recognize a common simile when it's right in front of you? Not that a PLR article would be enough to base your argument on anyway. Regardless of the fact that, you know, said PLR article doesn't quote source either.
Oh, but i do have psychic powers!...and one of them, its called common sense...have you ever heard of it?...its not for everyone apparently...after debating you for quite sometime now, i don't think you have that special abillity...
If Cassie wasn't there, then, where were those guys looking surprised/scared, looking at?
...What guys?
For the millionth time, this is all we see when the bullet fired. How many times do I need to tell you this?
you say, that it defies logic the fact that Cassie didn't moved during the time the shooter pulled the trigger, right?...well, it also defies logic, that Cassie waitted that longer in the first place...since we can clearly see that in 3rd image, left side, everybody in the room was already looking at Cassie, minus the guy that opened the vault's door, and in the next image, right side, (the last one on the scan), we see Cassie STILL, standing still...so why was she still standing there?.
What do you mean "waited that long"? We see the dudes opening the vault, the camera pans, Batgirl is in the vault. At what was she 'waiting'? Should she have been bursting out before the vault had even fully opened? Would that have made sense to you?
.if moments before, she was already seeing people aiming guns at her, then why didn't she moved WAY before the shooter had a chance to pull the trigger?...
She...did....That's my entire argument.
Conclusion: your point is invalid, since you claim, that Cassie should have started moving by the time the shooter pulled the trigger, because it makes no sense, that she would wait untill the shooter fired the gun...but the fact is, Cassie was actually "waitting" for longer than that, since in the scan before, there's an image, when we can clearly see that everyboy in that room, was already looking at Cassie, when the vault's door was opened..so, why would Cassie wait that much time to move, in the first place?
Alright, how about you describe a scenario in which that would make sense, for Batgirl to rush outside the vault before it's even opened. Because that doesn't make sense to me.
What exactly didn't you understand there?...Cassie did out-paced that bullet, by beating the bullet to its mark by far!
You still haven't proved that. That's also completely irrelevant to what you were responding to.
Here, let me remind you:
Now who's dodging?
let's say that Cassie started moving by the time the shooter was pulling the trigger, how does that make it less impressive?
God help me. You really do have the memory of a goldfish, don't you?
you can't prove that Cassie was already moving by the time the shooter pulled the trigger
Congratulations Einstein, the fact that nothing can be proved is the basis for my entire argument.
Cassie is more than fast enough to Blitz the shooter anyway, as i've also, already proved as well
Yeeees, almost as if she's fast enough to move before he pulls the trigger. Wouldn't that be strange? Hm?
Holes, on your compreenshion/interpretation abilities, maybe...
Nope, my faculties are fine. You really did just try to pull a 180° by implying that the time it takes to pull a trigger (0.001 seconds, apparently) is too little time for Batgirl to move....Yet at the same time using that to argue that she's fast enough to outspeed the bullet.
Please, do me a favor, first, read my post's, and then, reply to me...otherwise, i'll be wasting time, repeating myself.
You've wasted enough of your time repeating nonsense like this.
LOL!...Dude, stop, just stop!...this all started in the other thread, when i made the claim that Cassie could hurt Spider-Man, and that she hits harder than Both Batman and Cap...you didn't agree, then i posted scans, like the one, where Cassie breaks through 3-inch-quartz, then i pointed out the obvious, by saying that the quartz was bullet proof, then you started lowballing the feat, by saying that there wasn't any proof that it was bullet proof (pretty ridiculous, if you ask me, since its obvious that it was, but that's where pure dowballing gets you...)...and you asked me for proof, you even used (a ridiculous exemple) of the quartz-made-countertops, to say that quartz wasn't bullet proof, and in my last post, i just proved that EVEN quartz-made-countertops are bullet proof!...that's just how durable quartz is!...and now, you're trying to donball quartz, as a material?...by posting some random video?...lol...what is that supposed to prove?...how do i know if the quartz being used on that video, wasn't the less durable type of quartz, there is?...Dude how many times did i mentioned that there's more than one type of quartz?...the point is, if even a quartz-made-countertop is bullet-proof, now just imagine, how durable was that 3-inch-quartz-window, designed to help secure a vault, that Cassie broke through, was!...
Just stop! in my last post, i just finished your WEAK argument, THE ONLY ONE you had made, regarding this feat, since the other thread, and it wasn't even a decent one...but then again, that's where pure downballing gets you.
" " ...What guys? "
They appear in the scan that (once again) you conviniently forgot to post, this one:
Third image, left side...i belive i've said this, at least, over 3 times in a row, now.
" For the millionth time, this is all we see when the bullet fired. How many times do I need to tell you this? "
So, is this how its going to be?...you're basically keep replying to me, ignoring my post's, and the points adressed in them, and you only copy paste, and answer to what you like?...lol, i don't see how we're suppose to get anywhere debating like this...i mean, you bring up a point, i adress that point, and then you reply to me, while ignoring my previous answer...this way its impossible...
" What do you mean "waited that long"? We see the dudes opening the vault, the camera pans, Batgirl is in the vault. At what was she 'waiting'? Should she have been bursting out before the vault had even fully opened? Would that have made sense to you? "
Do you see what i mean?...i said it, like 3 or 4 times in a row, now...i'll say it again, Third image, left side...
The vault's door was opened in the second image...in the third image, left side, the door was already opened, and everyone, minus the guy that opened the vault's door, was freaking out, and pulling out guns...and in the fourth image, the one on the right side,we see one guy with his gun already in position, and there's Cassie standing there...in front of hem...as she was in the image before, and that's why those guys were freaking out, so, why didn't Cassie moved then?...you see, you ask why should she wait until the shooter fired the gun?...which happened in the scan that you posted before, which happens after the fourth image, where Cassie is standing still looking at the gun-men...why didn't she moved there?...heck, why didn't she moved even before that? in the the image before? the 3rd on the left side?...
The point is, your argument for this feat, actually kinda of makes sense, the problem is, it's a flawled logic...because, by your logic, Cassie could have moved way before the shooter even had time to pull his gun out...
" Yeeees, almost as if she's fast enough to move before he pulls the trigger. Wouldn't that be strange? Hm? "
And wouldn't be equally strange, the fact that she could have actually have moved way before that, since she had the chance to do it, and since she is that fast?...as i already proved, and you agreed?...
" Nope, my faculties are fine. You really did just try to pull a 180° by implying that the time it takes to pull a trigger (0.001 seconds, apparently) is too little time for Batgirl to move....Yet at the same time using that to argue that she's fast enough to outspeed the bullet. "
Lol, please, don't pretend, that you didn't understood what i was trying to say...you know what my opinion on this subject is...Cassie did out-paced that bullet...the point that i adressed regarding the time to press a trigger, is that, even if you're right regarding this feat, Cassie's speed, would still be enough to out-pace a bullet, since pulling a trigger is a no-time thing, and by the time Cassie punched the shooter, the bullet was still half away from its target...you are here arguing what?...that Cassie is not fast enough to out-pace a bullet, or that Cassie is not fast enough to double a bullets speed?...because, you do understand, that even if you're right regarding this feat (you aren't) that would still place Cassie's raw speed/ reaction time, on above 700 mph, or even above that, right?
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