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#1 Posted by The_Soverighn (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules

One Day Prep

Win By Death, K.O or Surrender

Standard Gear

In Character

Location

Opponent

#2 Edited by JediXMan (30266 posts) - - Show Bio

Cassandra. Domino's abilities are too random and inconsistent.

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#3 Posted by The_Soverighn (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

Domi

#4 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7024 posts) - - Show Bio

Cass trips and breaks her neck once the battle started.

#5 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly speaking Cassy to wayyy too fast for Domino to deal with. Look at some of the reflex feats she has performed which puts someone like Batman to shame. Look at her skills, she can paralyze someone with one nerve strike.

I really doubt her luck manipulation would help Domino beat someone far more skilled, a lot faster and hell of a lot cooler.

Cassy FTW every single time.

#6 Posted by gunmetalgrey (1267 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Love your last reason. lol

#7 Posted by Outside_85 (8654 posts) - - Show Bio

The luck manipulation is probably not going to be enough considering the Rulks could just muscle after her with little difficulty.

#8 Posted by Backflip (2262 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

Cassandra. Domino's abilities are too random and inconsistent.

When has Domino's luck been 'inconsistent'?

Personally, I hate that argument, because Domino has consistently proven she's the luckiest girl on the planet, and I have yet to see her 'luck' run out.

#9 Edited by chiq (1940 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85: Didn't she just beat Rulk? (PIS i know) Is this considered canon? I don't even know how to debate against being lucky. lol

#10 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Yay a domino thread!!,,this might seem biased but I think with a little "luck" she could win this fight..I'm going with the underdog domino FTW

#11 Posted by chocobojam (288 posts) - - Show Bio

Against cassandra cain, the only luck that domino will get is Bad Luck.

#12 Posted by Outside_85 (8654 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq: Isn't that from the book where it was suggests the whole AvX story happened because Pixie and Squirrel Girl had been playing with someone's puppets?

#13 Posted by Nefarious (19658 posts) - - Show Bio

Cassandra Cain.

#14 Posted by ThanoStomp (787 posts) - - Show Bio

If Domino can keep the fight at distance she'll win with her weapons and luck. At close range it Cass easily. Domino is not untouchable even with her powers working.

#15 Posted by chiq (1940 posts) - - Show Bio

Cass beats up Domino to within an inch for her life. She is about to land the killing blow when a tree branch breaks from above and k.o.'s her causing her to drown.

Cass wins w/o pis.

#16 Posted by kingsloth (249 posts) - - Show Bio

Cass all day every day.

#17 Posted by robertloucksjr (1723 posts) - - Show Bio

Domino. Her reflexes and agility are near meta and Cassie is not enough above her to be able to overcome the luck.

#18 Posted by celtic (776 posts) - - Show Bio

Domino

I hate overrated WIS cass.

#19 Posted by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - - Show Bio
@chiq said:

Cass beats up Domino to within an inch for her life. She is about to land the killing blow when a tree branch breaks from above and k.o.'s her causing her to drown.

Cass wins w/o pis.

Sounds just like her fight with Lady Deathstrike, except for a tree it was a grenade. 
#20 Posted by NyghtMare (403 posts) - - Show Bio

Cass 14 times out of 10.

#21 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@robertloucksjr said:

Domino. Her reflexes and agility are near meta and Cassie is not enough above her to be able to overcome the luck.

Could you show me some reaction feats from Domino, that puts her say close to Cassie.

#22 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Cassandra win

#23 Posted by Cochise (707 posts) - - Show Bio

How is Cass going to get around Domino's luck power, which has enabled Domino to take out people who are at Cass's level or above?

#25 Posted by darktiger (4455 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alexander505 said:

Cassandra win

maybe

domino's luck power might guarantee the win for the majority

#26 Posted by robertloucksjr (1723 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger said:

@Alexander505 said:

Cassandra win

maybe

domino's luck power might guarantee the win for the majority

Especially when the extraordinarily lucky person uses a gun or guns as standard gear and the Cassie is not bulletproof.

#27 Posted by darktiger (4455 posts) - - Show Bio

@robertloucksjr said:

@darktiger said:

@Alexander505 said:

Cassandra win

maybe

domino's luck power might guarantee the win for the majority

Especially when the extraordinarily lucky person uses a gun or guns as standard gear and the Cassie is not bulletproof.

yup

#28 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@robertloucksjr said:

Domino is a nimble little minx.

http://www.comicvine.com/domino/29-2161/all-images/108-210887/do4/105-2110502/

http://www.comicvine.com/domino/29-2161/all-images/108-210887/do5/105-2110503/

http://www.comicvine.com/domino/29-2161/all-images/108-210887/domino_00/105-883447/

http://www.comicvine.com/domino/29-2161/all-images/108-210887/50001/105-709434/

http://www.comicvine.com/domino/29-2161/all-images/108-210887/43669-domino/105-309081/

http://www.comicvine.com/domino/29-2161/all-images/108-210887/163022-domino/105-113165/

You could have replied to me, didnt see the message. The first one's pretty good , rest not so much. But it really pales in comparision to some of Cassy's reflex feats.

Batgirl Volume 1, Issue 13: Dodging multiple bullets with absolute ease

Batgirl Volume 1, Issue 17: Dodges bullets fired point blank

Batgirl Volume 1, Issue 21: Dodges bullet inches away from her face

Batgirl Volume 1, Issue 21: shadow thief attacks her with 4 ninja stars, she manages to catch them on each fingers, to me this look damn impressive.

You gotta admit man, her reflex are pretty damn awesome.

#29 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6607 posts) - - Show Bio

I give this to Domino.

#30 Posted by robertloucksjr (1723 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Yep, and the thing that bothers me is they do not belong on a normal human, peak or not.

#31 Edited by Lord Shiva (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq said:

@Outside_85: Didn't she just beat Rulk? (PIS i know) Is this considered canon? I don't even know how to debate against being lucky. lol

Why does this give naughty thoughts.....lips and hands....I'm just saying....;)

Anyway, Domino for the win.....her luck power count for a lot here.

#32 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4208 posts) - - Show Bio

Dom wins.

#33 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lord Shiva said:

Anyway, Domino for the win.....her luck power count for a lot here.

I agree ... domino has used her power to almost always come out on top, she should surely be able to use it to win against a street leveler.

NOTE: before you post scans of her losing to street levelers know the story line .... typically when she loses it ends up being to her benefit.

#34 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
@sandiego008 said:

I agree ... domino has used her power to almost always come out on top, she should surely be able to use it to win against a street leveler.

Domino hasn't beaten or even fought that many skilled street levelers to begin with..and she WILL lose to Cassandra Cain in one move.
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#35 Posted by TerryBogard2014 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

No luck in the world is gonna save dom from this @ss whooping.a day of prep with standard gear for cassi= domino with a right black circle to match the left

#36 Posted by Cochise (707 posts) - - Show Bio

Cass has no answer to Domino's luck power. "Kung fu" is not enough here.

#37 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cochise said:

Cass has no answer to Domino's luck power. "Kung fu" is not enough here.

Domino has also never beaten anyone remotely as skilled as Cass Cain via luck. 
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#38 Posted by Cochise (707 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@Cochise said:

Cass has no answer to Domino's luck power. "Kung fu" is not enough here.

Domino has also never beaten anyone remotely as skilled as Cass Cain via luck.

She has used her luck and fighting ability to defeat Lady Deathstrike and Deadpool who are easily as formidable opponents as Cass if not more so.

#39 Posted by The_Soverighn (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#40 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cochise said:

She has used her luck and fighting ability to defeat Lady Deathstrike and Deadpool who are easily as formidable opponents as Cass if not more so.

There's nothing true about your comparison of Deathstrike and Deadpool to Cassandra, also Deadpool has beaten Domino as well as the other way around.
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#41 Edited by Cochise (707 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@Cochise said:

She has used her luck and fighting ability to defeat Lady Deathstrike and Deadpool who are easily as formidable opponents as Cass if not more so.

There's nothing true about your comparison of Deathstrike and Deadpool to Cassandra, also Deadpool has beaten Domino as well as the other way around.

Why isn't the comparison true? They are A-list martial artists with high-end healing factors. Deadpool is a walking arsenal and Deathstrike has claws that can slice through just about anything. They are easily as formidable as Cass, moreso really.

Cass is a character whose offense is limited to straightforward physical attacks. That plays right into Domino's luck powers. Cass doesn't have any esoteric abilities to get around the luck and doesn't have the stat advantage to overwhelm Domino or tank the fallout from the luck powers. But if you have a plausible strategy for Cassandra to win I'm open to debate.

#42 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Cassandra Cain.
#43 Posted by shiesse (6 posts) - - Show Bio

cassandra!!

#44 Posted by Target_X (379 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Neena, but Cass would take it.

#45 Edited by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cochise said:

@Vance Astro said:

@Cochise said:

She has used her luck and fighting ability to defeat Lady Deathstrike and Deadpool who are easily as formidable opponents as Cass if not more so.

There's nothing true about your comparison of Deathstrike and Deadpool to Cassandra, also Deadpool has beaten Domino as well as the other way around.

Why isn't the comparison true? They are A-list martial artists with high-end healing factors. Deadpool is a walking arsenal and Deathstrike has claws that can slice through just about anything. They are easily as formidable as Cass, moreso really.

Cass is a character whose offense is limited to straightforward physical attacks. That plays right into Domino's luck powers. Cass doesn't have any esoteric abilities to get around the luck and doesn't have the stat advantage to overwhelm Domino or tank the fallout from the luck powers.

1.Lady Deathstrike isn't an A-List martial artist. She's not even B-list. 
2.Deadpool IS an A-list martial artist but his feats don't match Cassandra Cain's. 
3.Deathstrike's healing factor and claws are irrelevant as well as Deadpool's arsenal to any point that I was making. 
4.Domino's luck powers aren't a shield or a defense, she can be hit and she has been hit..and Cass doesn't have to draw this out..she's strong enough and skilled enough to one shot Domino and yes she doesn't have a physical stat advantage. 
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#46 Edited by Cochise (707 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

1.Lady Deathstrike isn't an A-List martial artist. She's not even B-list. 2.Deadpool IS an A-list martial artist but his feats don't match Cassandra Cain's. 3.Deathstrike's healing factor and claws are irrelevant as well as Deadpool's arsenal to any point that I was making. 4.Domino's luck powers aren't a shield or a defense, she can be hit and she has been hit..and Cass doesn't have to draw this out..she's strong enough and skilled enough to one shot Domino and yes she doesn't have a physical stat advantage.

True, Deathstrike may not be A-list in skill but she's knocking at the door. To say she's "not even B-list" is ridiculous. And skill is only one thing to factor into overall formidability in a H2H/CQ fight, and both Deathstrike and Deadpool are more formidable than Cass due to the previously mentioned advantages. Why would these advantages be irrelevant in a CQ fight? Domino can certainly be hit but her luck power IS a defense. She is not sweeping Cass but she is taking a majority because Cass's attack style here matches up horribly against Domino's luck power. If Cass had phasing, like Kitty Pryde... Or telepathy... Or a spider-sense to avoid the fallout of anything cause by the luck power... or the ability to absorb kinetic energy... or AOE attacks like Cyclop's optic blast... or anything other than just "skills" she'd do much better. And the skill difference between Cass and Domino is not enormous. Domino is a fantastic fighter. It's not like Cass is Mantis, or Moondragon, or the like.

#47 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cochise said:

True, Deathstrike may not be A-list in skill but she's knocking at the door. To say she's not B-list is ridiculous. And skill is only one thing to factor into overall formidability in a H2H/CQ fight, and both Deathstrike and Deadpool are more formidable than Cass due to the previously mentioned advantages. Why would these advantages be irrelevant in a CQ fight? Domino can certainly be hit but her luck power IS a defense. She is not sweeping Cass but she is taking a majority because Cass's attack style here matches up horribly against Domino's luck power. If Cass had phasing, like Kitty Pryde... Or telepathy... Or a spider-sense to avoid the fallout of anything cause by the luck power... or the ability to absorb kinetic energy... or AOE attacks like Cyclop's optic blast... or anything other than just "skills" she'd do much better.

You don't have any evidence to back that up. All we know about Deathstrike is that she's trained and has SOME skill. Never once has she defeated anyone who was particularly skilled by way of her own skill. Skill is the only factor in this thread because Domino isn't Deadpool or Lady Deathstrike, if you're going to use them as proof she can beat Cassandra Cain, you might as well had used her defeating Red Hulk. He's far harder to take down then both and ALSO not as skilled as Cassandra and not really even close. Cassandra has the skill and the strength advantage. It's all she needs. She doesn't need a defense for luck powers to beat someone that has them.
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#48 Posted by Cochise (707 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

You don't have any evidence to back that up. All we know about Deathstrike is that she's trained and has SOME skill. Never once has she defeated anyone who was particularly skilled by way of her own skill. Skill is the only factor in this thread because Domino isn't Deadpool or Lady Deathstrike, if you're going to use them as proof she can beat Cassandra Cain, you might as well had used her defeating Red Hulk. He's far harder to take down then both and ALSO not as skilled as Cassandra and not really even close. Cassandra has the skill and the strength advantage. It's all she needs. She doesn't need a defense for luck powers to beat someone that has them.

Lady Deathstrike routinely gives Wolverine a hell of a fight, and Wolverine is easily more formidable than Cass in a CQ fight. And why do you keep insisting skill is the ONLY FACTOR in this fight? Honestly, I'd like to know. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that Domino A) has luck powers and B) these powers routinely come into play when she in a CQ fight? I did not mention the Red Hulk fight because it happens off panel, is implausible given both of their accepted power levels, and is clearly PIS. So if I'm not bringing it up, why are you?

@Vance Astro said:

She doesn't need a defense for luck powers to beat someone that has them.

Why not? What logical reason do you base this statement on?

#49 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cochise said:

Lady Deathstrike routinely gives Wolverine a hell of a fight, and Wolverine is easily more formidable than Cass in a CQ fight. And why do you keep insisting skill is the ONLY FACTOR in this fight?

First of all, Lady Deathstrike doesn't give Wolverine trouble because of his fighting skill. She has physical stats and advantages that allow her to survive against him. Wolverine's showings and feats as well as Cassandra Cain's are well beyond anything Lady Deathstrike has done. Wolverine isn't EASILY better than Cassandra Cain, in fact that's only your opinion. If he is better than her it's by a slim margin. Skill is the only factor because YOU can't vouch for Luck powers. They are based on writing and you cannot say what her luck powers can do because plots aren't relevant in battle forums. 
 
@Cochise said:

I did not mention the Red Hulk fight because it happens off panel, is implausible given both of their accepted power levels, and is clearly PIS. So if I'm not bringing it up, why are you?

I don't think it matters why you didn't mention it. The point was that instance and the instances that you mentioned are exactly the same. She won via luck powers or in other words a plot device. Which means nothing in battle forums. 
 
@Cochise said:

Why not? What logical reason do you base this statement on?

Luck Powers+Plot Device=Not applicable in battle forums
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#50 Posted by jashro44 (20719 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how anyone can argue for or against domino...Maybe its because I don't read anything with her in it but its either her bad luck powers make her win or they don't. I mean she can't really control them right?