Cassandra Cain vs Daredevil & Elektra

My fanboism is telling me i should go with Cass but im not sure...close call. Good match up.

Daredevil and Elektra bag this one but Cassandra won't be an easy catch.. 

Cassie

I think together they may win. Hmm...hard to say, it's close...she certainly COULD pull it off.

Cassie, she can take Deathstroke and DS would own DD and Elektra

Daredevil & Elektra win easily.I don't think she'd even be able to take Elektra.

" Cassie, she can take Deathstroke and DS would own DD and Elektra "

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" Cassie, she can take Deathstroke and DS would own DD and Elektra "

ABC Logic... "

" Daredevil & Elektra win easily.I don't think she'd even be able to take Elektra. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" Daredevil & Elektra win easily.I don't think she'd even be able to take Elektra. "

IDK...I think they win together, but from what I have seen Cassie > Elektra."

" @Vance Astro said:

" Daredevil & Elektra win easily.I don't think she'd even be able to take Elektra. "

IDK...I think they win together, but from what I have seen Cassie > Elektra. "

i ain't too sure if cassie can win against both of them at the same time here, all three are elite fighters i don't think it'll be easy for both parties 

" i ain't too sure if cassie can win against both of them at the same time here, all three are elite fighters i don't think it'll be easy for both parties  "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" Cassie, she can take Deathstroke and DS would own DD and Elektra "

ABC Logic... "

Cassie's fought evenly with him on two separate occasions, so she's definitely an elite fighter in the DCU. Besides, Slade would take out Elektra in a matter of seconds and DD wouldn't be able to retain his manhood after a fight with him. "

" @Lunacyde said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" Daredevil & Elektra win easily.I don't think she'd even be able to take Elektra. "

IDK...I think they win together, but from what I have seen Cassie > Elektra."

Without a doubt "

" @capall said:

" i ain't too sure if cassie can win against both of them at the same time here, all three are elite fighters i don't think it'll be easy for both parties  "

I think it would be easy for DD & Elekrta. "

" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" Cassie, she can take Deathstroke and DS would own DD and Elektra "

ABC Logic... "

Cassie's fought evenly with him on two separate occasions, so she's definitely an elite fighter in the DCU. Besides, Slade would take out Elektra in a matter of seconds and DD wouldn't be able to retain his manhood after a fight with him. "

And Slade admitted that he couldn't take her in close quarters either
 
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:

" @Lunacyde said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" Daredevil & Elektra win easily.I don't think she'd even be able to take Elektra. "

IDK...I think they win together, but from what I have seen Cassie > Elektra."

Without a doubt "

Oh without a doubt "

why do you think this would be easy? i mean all of them are capable of lethal blows and cassie has ridiculous body lang reading ability however dd also has insane senses, i think this will be pretty difficult, is elektra capable of linking her mind with dd with her tp to coordinate their attacks and defenses? "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" Cassie, she can take Deathstroke and DS would own DD and Elektra "

ABC Logic... "

Cassie's fought evenly with him on two separate occasions, so she's definitely an elite fighter in the DCU. Besides, Slade would take out Elektra in a matter of seconds and DD wouldn't be able to retain his manhood after a fight with him. "

" @capall said:

why do you think this would be easy? i mean all of them are capable of lethal blows and cassie has ridiculous body lang reading ability however dd also has insane senses, i think this will be pretty difficult, is elektra capable of linking her mind with dd with her tp to coordinate their attacks and defenses? "

Daredevil has radar sense and Elektra has TK combined with their combat ability.I don't see anyway Cassie has a chance.Elektra doesn't have to link her mind with DD to coordinate.They were both trained by the Chaste..he can communicate with her telepathically. 
 
 
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" Cassie, she can take Deathstroke and DS would own DD and Elektra "

ABC Logic... "

Cassie's fought evenly with him on two separate occasions, so she's definitely an elite fighter in the DCU. Besides, Slade would take out Elektra in a matter of seconds and DD wouldn't be able to retain his manhood after a fight with him. "

It's still ABC logic.Nobody said that Cassie isn't elite in the DCU but beating Slade doesn't mean you can take DD or Elektra.He doesn't have their powers.You're acting like Slade is above street level.He can barely beat Nightwing as easily as you think he could beat DD or Elektra and they would both stomp Grayson. "

The last time I saw Deathstroke in a Nightwing comic, he beat him 4 or 5 times in one issue and Dick ended up paying him off.
 
Elektra's TP doesn't help since Cassie fights off of instinct, and DD has been tagged by slower opponents

They were both trained by the Chaste..he can communicate with her telepathically. 
 

Elektra's TP is just one of her many skills... 
she has other skills other her sleeves,.. like the silent scream for one.

The team can take it, but it's not easy by any means.

" The last time I saw Deathstroke in a Nightwing comic, he beat him 4 or 5 times in one issue and Dick ended up paying him off.  Elektra's TP doesn't help since Cassie fights off of instinct, and DD has been tagged by slower opponents "

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" The last time I saw Deathstroke in a Nightwing comic, he beat him 4 or 5 times in one issue and Dick ended up paying him off.  Elektra's TP doesn't help since Cassie fights off of instinct, and DD has been tagged by slower opponents "

When did that happen? Scans? Elektra doesn't read minds so fighting off instinct won't change anything. DD has been hit by slower opponents? So? Cassie has too. "

" @Vance Astro: Well in my opinion based on feats and showing of Cassie (who she has beat, what she has been shown able to do, how many styles she knows, etc.) she is a better overall fighter than Elektra.   Cassie was killing men so fast it took high speed camera to see it since she was a child. She has beaten a number of high end streetlevelers and martial artists in DC and has been generally considered one of the greatest martial artists in the DCU. She has been trained by Batman in at least 127 forms of combat, and she has a remarkable ability to read peoples movements and be able to predict what they will do in a fight. She dodges gunfire easily, even after the bullet has been fired. She has shown various metahuman abilities, inclusing strength and speed feats.  IMO this puts her above Elektra in overall fighting ability from what I have seen. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" The last time I saw Deathstroke in a Nightwing comic, he beat him 4 or 5 times in one issue and Dick ended up paying him off.  Elektra's TP doesn't help since Cassie fights off of instinct, and DD has been tagged by slower opponents "

When did that happen? Scans? Elektra doesn't read minds so fighting off instinct won't change anything. DD has been hit by slower opponents? So? Cassie has too. "

Whoops, thought you said TP, my bad, but has she ever used TK to actually move something?  Don't have the issue number on hand, but I recall him beating him several times in this issue and Dick ends up paying him off at  the end not to kill someone  I know, I'm not saying she can't be tagged, but when people bring up DD' radar sense they make it seem like he's untouchable, not saying you're doing this but I was just clarifying. "

Which street level characters have tagged her that you are referring to anyway

Elektra can beat Cassie on her own, and Daredevil be able to put up a fight on his own. Together they can take a solid majority.

" Which street level characters have tagged her that you are referring to anyway "

" Elektra can beat Cassie on her own

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" The last time I saw Deathstroke in a Nightwing comic, he beat him 4 or 5 times in one issue and Dick ended up paying him off.  Elektra's TP doesn't help since Cassie fights off of instinct, and DD has been tagged by slower opponents "

When did that happen? Scans? Elektra doesn't read minds so fighting off instinct won't change anything. DD has been hit by slower opponents? So? Cassie has too. "

Whoops, thought you said TP, my bad, but has she ever used TK to actually move something?  Don't have the issue number on hand, but I recall him beating him several times in this issue and Dick ends up paying him off at  the end not to kill someone  I know, I'm not saying she can't be tagged, but when people bring up DD' radar sense they make it seem like he's untouchable, not saying you're doing this but I was just clarifying. "

She has both.TK & TP.Even Hypnosis. DD's radar sense doesn't make him untouchable but it will make it hard for her to tag him,especially when dealing with Elektra.Wolverine called Elektra the greatest ninja in the world.She is the only known Marvel character that has easily snuck up on DD on various occasions.Besides the members of the Chaste.  I recall past fights between Grayson and DS that didn't look so impressive in DS's favor. "

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" Which street level characters have tagged her that you are referring to anyway "

Anyone street level character she's ever fought LOL.Marque,Shiva,Batman,etc. "

Ugh...that artwork really makes me not want to read that comic =l

"Ugh...that artwork really makes me not want to read that comic =l "

I can understand some regular street level character having trouble tagging DD but Cassie's speed is meta human, even if DD can see her attacks their isn't much he can do to stop them. 
 
TP doesn't help against someone who fights off of pure instinct but if by TK you mean being able to move physical objects, I don't know how that would factor into this fight.
 
I recall Grayson being him one time with the Titans help, beating him when he was depowered, one time they fought and Ravager blew up the building and Grayson escaped.  
Out of all the fair legit fights they had, Grayson usually gets his hide tanned.  
 
 @Vance Astro said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" Which street level characters have tagged her that you are referring to anyway "

Anyone street level character she's ever fought LOL.Marque,Shiva,Batman,etc. "

  I recall her effortlessly dodging Batman's hits, Shiva has similar speed and skill to Cassie [and Cassie still ended up killing her]  Not sure about the other one "

 Who did she beat? 

Cassie was killing men so fast it took a high speed camera to see it? But then she still gets tagged..easily.By street levelers.Go figure. 

 She's beaten a number of high end street levelers and martial artists in DC? Elektra and Daredevil have done the same in Marvel.

 The rest of that stuff.DD and Elektra have done.  

" @Neon_Nemesis: Basically, yes.
 
@Lunacyde: Daredevil flipped a limo :P "

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

I can understand some regular street level character having trouble tagging DD but Cassie's speed is meta human, even if DD can see her attacks their isn't much he can do to stop them. 
 
TP doesn't help against someone who fights off of pure instinct but if by TK you mean being able to move physical objects, I don't know how that would factor into this fight.
 
I recall Grayson being him one time with the Titans help, beating him when he was depowered, one time they fought and Ravager blew up the building and Grayson escaped.  
Out of all the fair legit fights they had, Grayson usually gets his hide tanned.  
 
 

@Vance Astro

said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" Which street level characters have tagged her that you are referring to anyway "

Anyone street level character she's ever fought LOL.Marque,Shiva,Batman,etc. "

  I recall her effortlessly dodging Batman's hits, Shiva has similar speed and skill to Cassie [and Cassie still ended up killing her]  Not sure about the other one "

 So now you're going to act like DD can't dodge Cassie's attacks? Because he's dodged faster characters than her.Easily. TP does help against people who fight off pure instinct.Elektra doesn't read minds for the second time.So it's not like she's waiting for her to think of what to do then countering it.She literally swaps minds and see's through Cassie's eyes.She can't make a move without it being detected.Elektra has tracked people who are nowhere near her this way.  You recall Cassie effortlessly dodging Batman's hits? When? I remember her getting floored. (I'm not aware of this) but even if Cassie did kill Shiva she still got tagged. Cassie fought Marque and the final volume before the book was handed over to Stephanie.And she was tagged.Marque is a sub-par combatant too. "

" @Ferro Vida:  to be honest no, i'm not a fan of her so my knowledge on her is extremely limited to what i've seen or read in on the vine, regardless that technique shouldn't work on cassie, just to clarify exactly what has she done in the scan, was that a whisper of some sort? "

" He's also killed demons with his bare hands. Has Cassie? :P "