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#1 Edited by ShadowKing (826 posts) - - Show Bio

The fight takes place in New York City. 
Begin 34 ft. apart.  
No prep.
Storm is in character.
Carnage is bloodlusted.
Win is by death. 
No prep.
 
 

  

#2 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm wins with this:  
 
 
 
Spite IMO.

#3 Posted by Sufferthorn (1734 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm takes this. Carnage has no real way of reaching her, and will just get pummeled from the Air.

#4 Posted by Phylos (2641 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm, carnage might be able to take storm. 
im sure he can close 34 feet with ease before she takes flight & starts manipulating the weather.

#5 Posted by rmsb1984 (73 posts) - - Show Bio

If spidy can defeat Carnage then I don't see any reason why Storm wont beat him easily even it's a 30 ft distance match

#6 Posted by Skaddix (3109 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm just has to think to use her powers. I am thinking she can think lightning bolt barrage and tornado before carnage gets there.

#7 Posted by Joygirl (18499 posts) - - Show Bio

I already tried this with Venom. If he can't do it Carnage certainly can't. Yes, yes, he's stronger and faster, but not as crafty with the symbiote. That would have been his only chance, camouflage/stealth. But Storm is uber-omega and stealthproof.

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#8 Posted by EpitomeofCool (2779 posts) - - Show Bio

storm...she can fly and use her ranged attacks...

#9 Posted by Marco_Kidd (365 posts) - - Show Bio

If Carnage closed the gap then he'd butcher Storm, however he cant close the gap Storm will just fly up and barage him with lighting bolts.

#10 Posted by jhazzroucher (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

Can very loud thunder affect the symbiote?

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#11 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm wins the majority, but that doesn't mean that Carnage is incapable of killing her one of these days.

#12 Posted by Enzeru (2954 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

Can very loud thunder affect the symbiote?

I don't think so. 
 
Carnage should win the fight.
The thing is ... Carnage is ruthless. If the area would be populated (it's not stated in the OP), he would simply grab innocent bystanders and use them as human shields. I want to see Storm attacking him then :-X 
She wouldn't do it and he would have the opportunity to attack her - after one pierce through her heart it would be over.
 
If the area would be unpopulated, then I don't know who would win. Probably Storm, because Carnage would try to rush her, like he is nearly always doing it. But he is dangerous - I'm sure that he can fire his symbiote spikes or tentacles 34 foot away. One pierce and she would be dead - so she would have to do everything to prevent him from attacking her and try to nuke him down with her lightning bolts. He could also start throwing cars at her, do everything to distract her to get one clear shot and then it would be over. But I don't know if he would be patient enough for that - probably not.
#13 Posted by jhazzroucher (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enzeru said:

@jhazzroucher said:

Can very loud thunder affect the symbiote?

I don't think so.

Carnage should win the fight.
The thing is ... Carnage is ruthless. If the area would be populated (it's not stated in the OP), he would simply grab innocent bystanders and use them as human shields. I want to see Storm attacking him then :-X She wouldn't do it and he would have the opportunity to attack her - after one pierce through her heart it would be over. If the area would be unpopulated, then I don't know who would win. Probably Storm, because Carnage would try to rush her, like he is nearly always doing it. But he is dangerous - I'm sure that he can fire his symbiote spikes or tentacles 34 foot away. One pierce and she would be dead - so she would have to do everything to prevent him from attacking her and try to nuke him down with her lightning bolts. He could also start throwing cars at her, do everything to distract her to get one clear shot and then it would be over. But I don't know if he would be patient enough for that - probably not.

i see. cos i thought a loud noise can affect the symbiote. So i was wrong.

Hmmm... How can Carnage hide when Storm can sense her surroundings? can Carnage actually dodge a lightning strike considering that they're just 34 feet apart? Does Carnage still need to breathe? can Storm flashfreeze an object 34 feet away from her?

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#14 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@Enzeru said:

@jhazzroucher said:

Can very loud thunder affect the symbiote?

I don't think so.

Carnage should win the fight.
The thing is ... Carnage is ruthless. If the area would be populated (it's not stated in the OP), he would simply grab innocent bystanders and use them as human shields. I want to see Storm attacking him then :-X She wouldn't do it and he would have the opportunity to attack her - after one pierce through her heart it would be over. If the area would be unpopulated, then I don't know who would win. Probably Storm, because Carnage would try to rush her, like he is nearly always doing it. But he is dangerous - I'm sure that he can fire his symbiote spikes or tentacles 34 foot away. One pierce and she would be dead - so she would have to do everything to prevent him from attacking her and try to nuke him down with her lightning bolts. He could also start throwing cars at her, do everything to distract her to get one clear shot and then it would be over. But I don't know if he would be patient enough for that - probably not.

i see. cos i thought a loud noise can affect the symbiote. So i was wrong.

Hmmm... How can Carnage hide when Storm can sense her surroundings? can Carnage actually dodge a lightning strike considering that they're just 34 feet apart? Does Carnage still need to breathe? can Storm flashfreeze an object 34 feet away from her?

The Carnage symbiote is resistant to sound, last I checked. But other symbiotes are not.

#15 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enzeru said:

@jhazzroucher said:

Can very loud thunder affect the symbiote?

I don't think so.

Carnage should win the fight.
The thing is ... Carnage is ruthless. If the area would be populated (it's not stated in the OP), he would simply grab innocent bystanders and use them as human shields. I want to see Storm attacking him then :-X She wouldn't do it and he would have the opportunity to attack her - after one pierce through her heart it would be over. If the area would be unpopulated, then I don't know who would win. Probably Storm, because Carnage would try to rush her, like he is nearly always doing it. But he is dangerous - I'm sure that he can fire his symbiote spikes or tentacles 34 foot away. One pierce and she would be dead - so she would have to do everything to prevent him from attacking her and try to nuke him down with her lightning bolts. He could also start throwing cars at her, do everything to distract her to get one clear shot and then it would be over. But I don't know if he would be patient enough for that - probably not.

Storm would win with or without bystanders. her lightning and wind powers are too much. This is the same chick that has created localized f5 tornadoes and hurricanes within an instant. Even his spikes stand little to no chance against her, considering she's eerily fast both on her feet, and in the sky. If he stops to throw a car at her, she could BFR him just like she did Hulk.

#16 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher: Subsonic and hypersonic soundwaves can. Loud sounds like explosions and thunder can't.
#17 Edited by jhazzroucher (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Enzeru said:

@jhazzroucher said:

Can very loud thunder affect the symbiote?

I don't think so.

Carnage should win the fight.
The thing is ... Carnage is ruthless. If the area would be populated (it's not stated in the OP), he would simply grab innocent bystanders and use them as human shields. I want to see Storm attacking him then :-X She wouldn't do it and he would have the opportunity to attack her - after one pierce through her heart it would be over. If the area would be unpopulated, then I don't know who would win. Probably Storm, because Carnage would try to rush her, like he is nearly always doing it. But he is dangerous - I'm sure that he can fire his symbiote spikes or tentacles 34 foot away. One pierce and she would be dead - so she would have to do everything to prevent him from attacking her and try to nuke him down with her lightning bolts. He could also start throwing cars at her, do everything to distract her to get one clear shot and then it would be over. But I don't know if he would be patient enough for that - probably not.

i see. cos i thought a loud noise can affect the symbiote. So i was wrong.

Hmmm... How can Carnage hide when Storm can sense her surroundings? can Carnage actually dodge a lightning strike considering that they're just 34 feet apart? Does Carnage still need to breathe? can Storm flashfreeze an object 34 feet away from her?

The Carnage symbiote is resistant to sound, last I checked. But other symbiotes are not.

i see. thanks for the clarification. how about Venom's symbiote by the way?

@MagneticTempest said:

@jhazzroucher: Subsonic and hypersonic soundwaves can. Loud sounds like explosions and thunder can't.

thanks.

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#18 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: The Venom symbiote's main weakness is sound.

#19 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio

And Carnage just like Venom can turn invisible, so I don't know how Storm will be able to sense him if Spiderman or Wolverine can't.

#20 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio

But Magnetism is the only power that can really kill them.

#21 Posted by jhazzroucher (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

@MagneticTempest said:

But Magnetism is the only power that can really kill them.

lol.: )

@MagneticTempest said:

And Carnage just like Venom can turn invisible, so I don't know how Storm will be able to sense him if Spiderman or Wolverine can't.

Even Storm who was in africa hit the x-jet flying over the usa with a lightning bolt. so i believe Storm can sense them still

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#22 Edited by Enzeru (2954 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

i see. thanks for the clarification. how about Venom's symbiote by the way?
The Venom symbiote has supersonics and fire as it's weakness.
The same goes for the Carnage symbiote, but that symbiote can endure more pain, because it's stronger.
The same goes for the Toxin symbiote, who can also endure more pain then the Carnage symbiote.
The Anti-Venom symbiote (well, it's not really a symbiote) is totally immune to fire and supersonics.
 
@White Mage said:

Storm would win with or without bystanders. her lightning and wind powers are too much. This is the same chick that has created localized f5 tornadoes and hurricanes within an instant. Even his spikes stand little to no chance against her, considering she's eerily fast both on her feet, and in the sky. If he stops to throw a car at her, she could BFR him just like she did Hulk.
That doesn't make any sense. 

If Carnage would grab a mother with her child, Storm wouldn't try anything to attack him further, because that would also kill the hostages for sure. 
And no ... Carnage is faster then even Spider-Man and Venom, so Storm would have some really hard PIS-time avoiding Carnage's attacks. She may be able to BFR him, but it would probably be harder then BFR'ing the Hulk, since Carnage is faster and the symbiote would instantly anchor itself to the ground. Carnage is a 50 tonner. Storm would have to mobilize winds strong enough to move these 50 tons and that again would be a huge threat to the entire area with the bystanders. 
 
Storm has morals, Carnage does not. 
Even with morals off, I don't see Storm using such attacks to remove Carnage from the battlefield or simply risk human lives at all. Even without morals and bloodlusted, she wouldn't do it, because it would be so damn out of her character.
Killing enemies while being bloodlusted and having  the morals off, yeah for sure - but doing more then that. I don't think so.
#23 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

@MagneticTempest said:

But Magnetism is the only power that can really kill them.

lol.: )

@MagneticTempest said:

And Carnage just like Venom can turn invisible, so I don't know how Storm will be able to sense him if Spiderman or Wolverine can't.

Even Storm who was in africa hit the x-jet flying over the usa with a lightning bolt. so i believe Storm can sense them still

Was she sensing them through the air or was she sensing them through it's electronics because Carnage is non electrical conductive. 
#24 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enzeru said:

@jhazzroucher said:

i see. thanks for the clarification. how about Venom's symbiote by the way?
The Venom symbiote has supersonics and fire as it's weakness. The same goes for the Carnage symbiote, but that symbiote can endure more pain, because it's stronger. The same goes for the Toxin symbiote, who can also endure more pain then the Carnage symbiote. The Anti-Venom symbiote (well, it's not really a symbiote) is totally immune to fire and supersonics.

We can only assume Toxin is more resistant. He never actually had to deal with any fire/sonics in his debut issues or his mini-series (basically, in any of his appearances so far).

#25 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio

An F5 tornado is not going to hurt Carnage.

#26 Posted by jhazzroucher (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

@MagneticTempest said:

An F5 tornado is not going to hurt Carnage.

but it does stop him from doing anything.

@Enzeru said:

@jhazzroucher said:
i see. thanks for the clarification. how about Venom's symbiote by the way?
The Venom symbiote has supersonics and fire as it's weakness.
The same goes for the Carnage symbiote, but that symbiote can endure more pain, because it's stronger.
The same goes for the Toxin symbiote, who can also endure more pain then the Carnage symbiote.
The Anti-Venom symbiote (well, it's not really a symbiote) is totally immune to fire and supersonics.

@White Mage said:

Storm would win with or without bystanders. her lightning and wind powers are too much. This is the same chick that has created localized f5 tornadoes and hurricanes within an instant. Even his spikes stand little to no chance against her, considering she's eerily fast both on her feet, and in the sky. If he stops to throw a car at her, she could BFR him just like she did Hulk.
That doesn't make any sense. If Carnage would grab a mother with her child, Storm wouldn't try anything to attack him further, because that would also kill the hostages for sure. And no ... Carnage is faster then even Spider-Man and Venom, so Storm would have some really hard PIS-time avoiding Carnage's attacks. She may be able to BFR him, but it would probably be harder then BFR'ing the Hulk, since Carnage is faster and the symbiote would instantly anchor itself to the ground. Carnage is a 50 tonner. Storm would have to mobilize winds strong enough to move these 50 tons and that again would be a huge threat to the entire area with the bystanders. Storm has morals, Carnage does not. Even with morals off, I don't see Storm using such attacks to remove Carnage from the battlefield or simply risk human lives at all. Even without morals and bloodlusted, she wouldn't do it, because it would be so damn out of her character. Killing enemies while being bloodlusted and having the morals off, yeah for sure - but doing more then that. I don't think so.

I think Storm can control her lightning as to who should only be hurt by it. But i'm not sure. Hulk is a strong dude but still swept away by her wind bursts. I've seen Storm control her powers just to destroy a sentinel and not hurt any bystanders and it happened in the city filled with people on the streets and buildings.

@MagneticTempest said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@MagneticTempest said:

But Magnetism is the only power that can really kill them.

lol.: )

@MagneticTempest said:

And Carnage just like Venom can turn invisible, so I don't know how Storm will be able to sense him if Spiderman or Wolverine can't.

Even Storm who was in africa hit the x-jet flying over the usa with a lightning bolt. so i believe Storm can sense them still

Was she sensing them through the air or was she sensing them through it's electronics because Carnage is non electrical conductive.

Storm can sense abnormal air movements

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#27 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

Storm can sense abnormal air movements

And how does she strain her mind to focus in and utilize this ability?
#28 Posted by jhazzroucher (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

@MagneticTempest said:

@jhazzroucher said:

Storm can sense abnormal air movements

And how does she strain her mind to focus in and utilize this ability?

it's easy for her to do it, especially in a short distance.

And we shouldn't question Storm's speed. Storm has flew as fast as a jet so i don't think Carnage's speed gives him an advantage

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#29 Posted by the darknessss (2750 posts) - - Show Bio

storms sends down huge lightning bolts from the start,flys high up creates winds so powerful it sucks hin into outer space.

#30 Edited by weaponmaster (1412 posts) - - Show Bio

@MagneticTempest said:

@jhazzroucher: Subsonic and hypersonic soundwaves can. Loud sounds like explosions and thunder can't.

Hypersonic and subsonic have to do with speed. Hypersonic means faster than the speed of sound and subsonic means slower than the speed of sound. Soundwaves cannot be hypersonic or subsonic, they can only be sonic i.e sound waves move at the speed of sound.

The terminologies that you are erroneously referring to are infrasonic and ultrasonic. The symbiote can be affected by sounds between each of these frequency ranges as well.

Thunderclaps will indeed affect the symbiote adversely.

#31 Edited by Vance Astro (91113 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm and Carnage aren't in the same league.She way beyond him.

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#32 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio
@weaponmaster said:

@MagneticTempest said:

@jhazzroucher: Subsonic and hypersonic soundwaves can. Loud sounds like explosions and thunder can't.

Hypersonic and subsonic have to do with speed. Hypersonic means faster than the speed of sound and subsonic means slower than the speed of sound. Soundwaves cannot be hypersonic or subsonic, they can only be sonic i.e sound waves move at the speed of sound.

The terminologies that you are erroneously referring to are infrasonic and ultrasonic. The symbiote can be affected by sounds between each of these frequency ranges as well.

Thunderclaps will indeed affect the symbiote adversely.

 
 http://www.andybrain.com/2004/sound-weapons-are-a-reality-and-no-earplugs-wont-help/ 
 
 


Some earlier sound weapons simply caused pain from high decibel noises (like Mariah Carey), or generated severe nausea using subsonics (subsonic or infrasonic noise is defined as any sound whose frequency is less than 20 Hz, like Barry White’s voice).

The human body does not react well to extremely low frequency noises: Certain low frequencies can cause sickness, balance problems and discomfort and pain to soft tissues and organs. At higher energy levels, a subsonic shock wave is powerful enough to do damage.

Previous limitations on this technology included massive amounts of power needed to run a weapon of this type, and the physical size of the device itself (subsonic sound weapons fire such low-frequency sound waves, the gun aperture itself has to be large in order to generate the “noise”).

I missplaced Ultra Sonic sounds with Hypersonic speed. That's my bad.
#33 Posted by weaponmaster (1412 posts) - - Show Bio

@MagneticTempest said:

@weaponmaster said:

@MagneticTempest said:

@jhazzroucher: Subsonic and hypersonic soundwaves can. Loud sounds like explosions and thunder can't.

Hypersonic and subsonic have to do with speed. Hypersonic means faster than the speed of sound and subsonic means slower than the speed of sound. Soundwaves cannot be hypersonic or subsonic, they can only be sonic i.e sound waves move at the speed of sound.

The terminologies that you are erroneously referring to are infrasonic and ultrasonic. The symbiote can be affected by sounds between each of these frequency ranges as well.

Thunderclaps will indeed affect the symbiote adversely.


http://www.andybrain.com/2004/sound-weapons-are-a-reality-and-no-earplugs-wont-help/


Some earlier sound weapons simply caused pain from high decibel noises (like Mariah Carey), or generated severe nausea using subsonics (subsonic or infrasonic noise is defined as any sound whose frequency is less than 20 Hz, like Barry White’s voice).

The human body does not react well to extremely low frequency noises: Certain low frequencies can cause sickness, balance problems and discomfort and pain to soft tissues and organs. At higher energy levels, a subsonic shock wave is powerful enough to do damage.

Previous limitations on this technology included massive amounts of power needed to run a weapon of this type, and the physical size of the device itself (subsonic sound weapons fire such low-frequency sound waves, the gun aperture itself has to be large in order to generate the “noise”).

I missplaced Ultra Sonic sounds with Hypersonic speed. That's my bad.

Ok. So you and the author of that article used words out of context: both subsonic and hypersonic. Subsonic has nothing to do with frequencies as is erroneously stated in the above article.

Misplaced huh? You simply used the wrong words after reading an article where the author used the wrong words as well and was not very knowledgeable. It was not a case of misplacement but was a case of perpetuated misinformation.

#34 Posted by jhazzroucher (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Storm and Carnage aren't in the same league.She way beyond him.

i agree with you on this.

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#35 Posted by xmenfallen (1385 posts) - - Show Bio

carnage has a tiny chance in winning this match................................. storm has way more weapons under her sleeves to take him out .... a 3 strike lightning might do the trick

#36 Posted by Enzeru (2954 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

And we shouldn't question Storm's speed. Storm has flew as fast as a jet so i don't think Carnage's speed gives him an advantage
That is not important, because that would be about her fastest traveling speed.
A different story is if she is hoovering in the midair and getting attacked by someone as fast as Carnage. Storm CAN NOT move as fast as Carnage can. She is faster them him, without a doubt, if they try to race it out, but if she is fighting against him, she would be the clear loser in terms of the speed, because she needs to accelerate herself to reach her top speeds and there is no space / time for that in a fight. 
 
@Vance Astro said:
Storm and Carnage aren't in the same league.She way beyond him.
Bad post. Bad bad post.
That's just pure ABC-logic.
 
I agree that Storm is more powerful overall then Carnage. There is no doubt about that.
But this thread is not about who of them is more powerful. It's about who would win in a fight, if they meet eachother in New York City.
It's character VS character and not powerset VS powerset.
While Storm is the more powerful one, Carnage is still the one who is far more ruthless. In a logical fight, he would try anything to prevail and that would include threatning innocents and preventing Storm from attacking.
Then he would have an easy game, because all he would have to do would be to stab her once with his tendrils. Game Over.
#37 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio
@weaponmaster said:

@MagneticTempest said:

@weaponmaster said:

@MagneticTempest said:

@jhazzroucher: Subsonic and hypersonic soundwaves can. Loud sounds like explosions and thunder can't.

Hypersonic and subsonic have to do with speed. Hypersonic means faster than the speed of sound and subsonic means slower than the speed of sound. Soundwaves cannot be hypersonic or subsonic, they can only be sonic i.e sound waves move at the speed of sound.

The terminologies that you are erroneously referring to are infrasonic and ultrasonic. The symbiote can be affected by sounds between each of these frequency ranges as well.

Thunderclaps will indeed affect the symbiote adversely.


http://www.andybrain.com/2004/sound-weapons-are-a-reality-and-no-earplugs-wont-help/


Some earlier sound weapons simply caused pain from high decibel noises (like Mariah Carey), or generated severe nausea using subsonics (subsonic or infrasonic noise is defined as any sound whose frequency is less than 20 Hz, like Barry White’s voice).

The human body does not react well to extremely low frequency noises: Certain low frequencies can cause sickness, balance problems and discomfort and pain to soft tissues and organs. At higher energy levels, a subsonic shock wave is powerful enough to do damage.

Previous limitations on this technology included massive amounts of power needed to run a weapon of this type, and the physical size of the device itself (subsonic sound weapons fire such low-frequency sound waves, the gun aperture itself has to be large in order to generate the “noise”).

I missplaced Ultra Sonic sounds with Hypersonic speed. That's my bad.

Ok. So you and the author of that article used words out of context: both subsonic and hypersonic. Subsonic has nothing to do with frequencies as is erroneously stated in the above article.

Misplaced huh? You simply used the wrong words after reading an article where the author used the wrong words as well and was not very knowledgeable. It was not a case of misplacement but was a case of perpetuated misinformation.

 
 You know it's misplaced, because we are talking about sounds, and not speed. 
 
 
 
 
The symboites are vulnerable to ultra low frequency "subsonic" sounds and ultra high frequency sounds. 
 

 

 Black Cat uses a sonic sound gun to weaken Venom.


 
 
 

Venom wields the sonic gun himself, since he doesn’t trust anyone else on the team. The sacrifice is pointed out via the symbiote glove painfully peeling away from his hand as it keeps pressure on the trigger.


  
 
And the reason why no one else is being affected by these "sub sonic and ultra sonic" sounds is because it is out of the human ears range of hearing.
#38 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32675 posts) - - Show Bio

So wait does sound hurt Carnage or not?

#39 Posted by MagneticTempest (207 posts) - - Show Bio
@spiderbat87 said:
So wait does sound hurt Carnage or not?
Not alot. Why? Well its pretty obvious.... He had a Love affair with Shriek. 
Shriek's power of "Sonic sounds" exercised his pain of sounds, so in other words.... He's gotten used to it.
#40 Posted by weaponmaster (1412 posts) - - Show Bio

@MagneticTempest said:

@weaponmaster said:

@MagneticTempest said:

@weaponmaster said:

@MagneticTempest said:

@jhazzroucher: Subsonic and hypersonic soundwaves can. Loud sounds like explosions and thunder can't.

Hypersonic and subsonic have to do with speed. Hypersonic means faster than the speed of sound and subsonic means slower than the speed of sound. Soundwaves cannot be hypersonic or subsonic, they can only be sonic i.e sound waves move at the speed of sound.

The terminologies that you are erroneously referring to are infrasonic and ultrasonic. The symbiote can be affected by sounds between each of these frequency ranges as well.

Thunderclaps will indeed affect the symbiote adversely.


http://www.andybrain.com/2004/sound-weapons-are-a-reality-and-no-earplugs-wont-help/


Some earlier sound weapons simply caused pain from high decibel noises (like Mariah Carey), or generated severe nausea using subsonics (subsonic or infrasonic noise is defined as any sound whose frequency is less than 20 Hz, like Barry White’s voice).

The human body does not react well to extremely low frequency noises: Certain low frequencies can cause sickness, balance problems and discomfort and pain to soft tissues and organs. At higher energy levels, a subsonic shock wave is powerful enough to do damage.

Previous limitations on this technology included massive amounts of power needed to run a weapon of this type, and the physical size of the device itself (subsonic sound weapons fire such low-frequency sound waves, the gun aperture itself has to be large in order to generate the “noise”).

I missplaced Ultra Sonic sounds with Hypersonic speed. That's my bad.

Ok. So you and the author of that article used words out of context: both subsonic and hypersonic. Subsonic has nothing to do with frequencies as is erroneously stated in the above article.

Misplaced huh? You simply used the wrong words after reading an article where the author used the wrong words as well and was not very knowledgeable. It was not a case of misplacement but was a case of perpetuated misinformation.


You know it's misplaced, because we are talking about sounds, and not speed.




The symboites are vulnerable to ultra low frequency "subsonic" sounds and ultra high frequency sounds.

Black Cat uses a sonic sound gun to weaken Venom.



Venom wields the sonic gun himself, since he doesn’t trust anyone else on the team. The sacrifice is pointed out via the symbiote glove painfully peeling away from his hand as it keeps pressure on the trigger.

And the reason why no one else is being affected by these "sub sonic and ultra sonic" sounds is because it is out of the human ears range of hearing.

Your first post and chart are irrelevant as you did not know that subsonic and hypersonic referred to speed in the first place until i informed you.

There is no such thing as sub-sonic sound. sound travels at the speed of sound. period.

The Symbiotes are vulnerable to sound. It does not have to be infrasonic nor ultrasonic.

Again, subsonic means below the speed of sound. it has nothing to do with the frequency or range of hearing. You are still confused and in error.

Putting subsonic in quotes does not make it's use any less erroneous on your part.

The reason noone is being affected is because the sound is uni-directional. it being infrasonic or ultrasonic is simply you being wrong. if they were either infrasonic or ultrasonic there would be no "skree' or "pyong" or "skrzzzz" sounds.

#41 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm.   
 
Her lightning is too fast and her winds are too strong.

#42 Edited by weaponmaster (1412 posts) - - Show Bio

Carnage leaps at Storm or shoots out tendrils etc at her and she does this:

#43 Posted by Billy Batson (57753 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm...
BB

#44 Posted by MarvelRulesTheWorld (332 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm... I believe some have either forgotten or haven't read when Carnage fought the X-Men. 
 


 
  
 
 It usually takes team work for the X-Men to beat these guys.
 
 
#45 Posted by Killer_of_trolls (1852 posts) - - Show Bio
@MagneticTempest
if you were keeping up with with the history of events before and after the V-Symbiote landed on earth, you'de know that they are based on on Spidey's, that's why spiderman can't since any of them. 
and Wolvie's only way of "sincing", is his inhanced hearing and smeling. 
 
but Storm actually has something resembling a 6th sinse. 
 
anyway, Storm wins this, not even the hulk had a chance with her in comics.
#46 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio
@Rapest_of_super_heros: Don't be ridiculous, Hulk would destroy Storm.
#47 Posted by Killer_of_trolls (1852 posts) - - Show Bio
@comicdude23
but I think that already happened, I don't really remmember in what book or issue. she mannaged to incapacitae him for a decent while.
#48 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (7734 posts) - - Show Bio

@MarvelRulesTheWorld: what comic is that from o.o

#49 Posted by Lord Shiva (794 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless, his tentacle moves faster then Cyke's optic blast or Thor's hammer....I say Storm takes this. If he was standing closer, I can see him taking this.

#50 Posted by Mortein (2715 posts) - - Show Bio

Carnage should be able to react much faster then storm. He fires sharp piece of symbiot in her face and kills her.