Carnage vs Batman

@wenjunchew: It just says 1he prep. Nothing about boom tubes.

Anyway how many times has Batman boom tubed people? I have no idea and figure with your constant Bat wankage you may have stumbled on that.

Batman wins.

Batman gets ripped limb by limb.

@mtuske: Not often. Doesn't mean he can't use them if the rules allowed the use of unconventional resources, something which Batman is often using anyway during Justice League team ups.

@wenjun--chew: You and I could BFR Carnage with a boom tube.That's such a stupid item. It's not really Batman beating Carnage It's Carnage vs a boom tube

Not really.

Check out point number 2 of my thread which talks about use of outside resources: http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/common-myths-about-batman-battles-debunked-1576901/

@wenjun--chew: Can't open the link on my phone.

@mtuske: sorry I've edited the post again

@wenjun--chew: Still can't, it's my phone. Let's just assume you're wrong. It just works better that way.

2. Resource ABC allows Batman to defeat Odin/Galactus/etc, but then again, even Aunt May can do it with those resources.

Counter:

- Batman is more talented than the average human. The likes of Aunt May isn't talented enough to make use of the resource such that the opponent can be overwhelmed.

- Resourcefulness is needed to get hold of the correct artifacts the first place.

- Great willpower/intelligence is required to use certain artifacts.

This is a horrible battle.

Yeah the old "boom tube" cop out answer because the person can't come up with any other way for a possible victory. BFR is the biggest joke in any battle.

@wenjun--chew:

1. It doesn't take a huge amount of talent to use a boom tube.

2. It's not very resourceful if it's kept at the JLA headquarters for use on the weekends.

3. Neither great willpower or intelligence is needed for boom tubing a mofo.

4. Aunt May could most likely use a boom tube.

He has boom tubes as well as various other Apokolyptian technology that he kept from when Darkseid tried to invade earth. With an hour of prep Batman is going to load up the Batwing with as many weapons as he think he might need. And with Carnage being an unknown threat, you better believe he's bringing boom tubes.

lol after reading through the pages and others vs debates it seems the whole "i think he can so it counts" is being used a lot on here. Hysterical.

He's not using boom tube to obtain a BFR victory, he's using BFR to isolate Carnage so he can be more cautious so Carnage doesn't slaughter a bunch of people while he does.

Batman is getting wrecked if he doesn't know Carnage is weak to heat and sound. Prep is meaningless unless he knows Carnage's Weaknesses. If Batman does know of these he will simply just be punching Cletus Kasady in the face lol.

@osymandias:

Good idea, like the middle of the Sahara or something then rain down fire from the batwing loaded with all the tech it can carry. I stand by bats has faced foes such as clayface and inque etc who have similar weaknesses.

carnage is an 80toner. how the hell did batman beat him? batman's punches shouldn't even hurt carnage. PIS

@medulaoblaganda:

It's not a fist fight, bats will realease hell upon carnage from 30000 feet.

That works great if your opponent goofs off and purposefully breathes in your gas. While Carnage does sometimes goof off, you're probably fatally injured before you get something like that off.

@clownprinceofcrime1995: what is he gonna do to hurt him? because in their previous battle batman only defeated him with brute force. which is pure PIS. 80 toner and 100lbs, look at the difference. batman's punch shouldn't be able to affect carnage.

@medulaoblaganda:

It's a crossover probably non canon and fan voted. Shouldn't be used.

Sonics, fire, Mr Freeze gun, explosives and Apokalyptian tech with whatever else is in the JLA armoury are all at his disposal.

@clownprinceofcrime1995: okay, but when batman fought him, what did he use ? what am seeing in the scan i posted is brute force. he didn't use any weapon or whatsoever.

@medulaoblaganda:

What's your point? Batman with prep isn't just gonna walk up to carnage and punch him. He's gonna throw everything he can at him from a safe distance

@clownprinceofcrime1995: i agree, but what do you think about the crossover they made, because batman didn't use any weapon, he just went straight ahead at him with brute force. batman with prep will win, but it won't be easy for him. you do know carnage is very fast, but is only weakness is heat. the carnage symbiote is like all others of its kind, is extremely vulnerable to heat and sonic based attacks. They can cause the symbiote physical pain and discomfort, where as "more powerful" attacks might be completely ineffective. batman will win, but not easily. batman haven't meet carnage before so, their first battle would be even, then batman will meet with spiderman and discuss about carnage with spider man. spider man will tell batman carnage weakness, then that is when batman will exploit carnage weakness. or may be both spider man and batman will battle carnage until they both win. that is the way i see how the battle goes. just saying. lol. dead-pool used a sonic attack against carnage. in that case batman needs to be very very careful if he wants to battle carnage. batman is only human, so he has to be utilize is weapons.

Bat-god

@experio:

Who would win in a fight, Batman or the American Army? Ask any nerd this question and they'll reply "Batman, with enough prep time."

Batman versus God? "Batman, with enough prep time."

Batman versus a tag team of Superman, Thor, Vishnu and Cthulhu? "Batman, with enough prep time."

There are some fights that a MAN, even one dressed as a Bat, should not be able to win.

@medulaoblaganda: He's surpassed Chuck Norris as the greatest overrated character.

Excuse me? Since when do Batman fans ever claim that Batman with prep > God? This is a strawman target.

@experio: he can even beat livng tribunal and galactus with enough prep-time right? anti tribunal gun to living tribunal's face and he will drop dead. anti galistic smoke to galactus head, and galactus out. lol

@medulaoblaganda: Give him one day prep in his Bat-cave and he could be TOAA level if he wanted.

@medulaoblaganda:

It's a crossover, 90% are ridiculous.

Batman. Is. Omnipotent!

Kasady

Carnage.

@experio: he could defeat is writer by breaking the fourth-wall. anti-fourth-wall bullet to the head.

@wenjun_chew_: but you know is the fact. didn't he kick spectre to the face? spectre was bleeding.

Carnage random encounter

Carnage if batman have prep without knowledge about Carnage

Carnage 60-40 if batman have prep with half knowledge about Carnage

Batman If batman have prep with complete knowledge about Carnage

@detrolord: that is an intelligent point right there!! batman will have to team up with batman before he can do the job.

man 2 batmans can kill Odin with 1 hr prep XD Chew Chew

Still Batman. He either brings a heat based weapon or sonics, most likely both.

@eisenfauste: and you think that will put him down easily?

@medulaoblaganda: It has before.

@eisenfauste: he will have to rely on spider ma, because batman doesn't know carnage at all. he doesn't know is weakness. batman will win after one hell of a fight. carnage is no dumb character. he is fast. as much as i hate carnage batman will barely win the battle.

@thedailybagel:

Hey if Doom + Prep > PR Beyonder why can't batman be the same?

Actually Batman would try to find a weakness in the beginning of the fight, and for some reason he doesn't find one, he would just call Supes to kick his ass. Batman & Superman are the best duo ever :)

@keithcolby1995: if he doesn't knowthe weakness, batman will have to call spider man for team up in defeating carnage. spider man will be the one telling batman carnage weakness when battling.