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#1 Edited by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio
 Captain Nova vs Green Lantern Batman
 
   
Battle takes place anywhere from Earth to outer space. Steve Rogers has use of being empowered by the Nova Force, and Batman has use of being empowered by the Green Lantern Ring. Who will win?
#2 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

oooooo cool fight.

#3 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2176 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, snap! Because I hold Steve in high regards, I'm going with him in this fight.

#4 Posted by odinforce (1505 posts) - - Show Bio
batman with will-power ring = over-powered
#5 Posted by MutenRoshi (851 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Nova feats?

#6 Edited by The Gray Fox (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

I am going with Steve. He's got Worldmind to back him up. Bruce can't even use the ring properly, not without straining himself. Now...if this were the Elseworlds GL Batman that would be a different story. If that were the case I think I would have to settle on them stalemating each other following a battle spanning several months.

#7 Posted by ndm5 (474 posts) - - Show Bio
@MutenRoshi said:
Captain Nova feats?

yea this is the first time i have heard of captain nova. what can he do guys?
#8 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2931 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn, I was just about to make this..
Going with Bats here.

#9 Edited by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio
@ndm5: Captain Nova is who Steve Rogers briefly became when he had help from the Worldmind, and gained the Nova Force after  Nova (Richard Rider) was possessed by the Serpent Crown.  
 
So he has pretty much the same level of power that Nova had when he gained the entire Nova Force
#10 Posted by ndm5 (474 posts) - - Show Bio
@MyronLee26 said:
@ndm5: Captain Nova is who Steve Rogers briefly became when he had help from the Worldmind, and gained the Nova Force after  Nova (Richard Rider) was possessed by the Serpent Crown.   So he has pretty much the same level of power that Nova had when he gained the entire Nova Force

okay so you are telling me a tactical genious and one of the best hand to hand fighters in marvel... is given the full nova force AND worldmind? damn im gunna have to go with steve here... and any prep batman may have will be useless cause 1) steve is and expert at prep himself (not as good as bats though) and 2) he has worldmind there to assist
#11 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio
@ndm5:  
If Steve kept the Nova Force, dude would be pretty much unstoppable.   
Steve has shown and proven that he capable of gaining the upperhand in situations that Batman can only accomplish WITH prep-time. Heck, Cap almost succeeded in KILLING Thor when he had the OdinForce (even though he got killed at the end, lol). Plus Cap is just as skilled as Bats as far as Fighting Skills, but Cap has more of en edge. He's displayed superhuman-level feats on several occasion, and he has more battle experience than Bats does. 
#12 Posted by ndm5 (474 posts) - - Show Bio
@MyronLee26 said:
@ndm5:  If Steve kept the Nova Force, dude would be pretty much unstoppable.   Steve has shown and proven that he capable of gaining the upperhand in situations that Batman can only accomplish WITH prep-time. Heck, Cap almost succeeded in KILLING Thor when he had the OdinForce (even though he got killed at the end, lol). Plus Cap is just as skilled as Bats as far as Fighting Skills, but Cap has more of en edge. He's displayed superhuman-level feats on several occasion, and he has more battle experience than Bats does. 

i agree with everything you just said (im on the side that says cap>batman) but battle experience is about them same. the way i see it is, captain is the best field comander out there, and batman is the best detective out there... now what about captain batman? with a green lantern ring and the full nova force?!?!?!?! AND MJOLNIR!!!! now that... would be to awesome
#13 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio
@ndm5: Their fighting skills are pretty much equaled. but their battle experience differs. Bruce was never in any major wars or in an actual battlefield environment during his initial stint as Batman, and was only trained beforehand. while Cap fought in World War II, and had some experience with the Invaders around the same time. 
#14 Posted by ndm5 (474 posts) - - Show Bio
@MyronLee26
now lets not forget experience is not only in the form of wars, that is why i said steve is the field comander and bruce is the detective. one could argue that cap has more military training whereas bats has more detective trainning. both are very unique and both are very usefull on a team. 
 
captain america is the perfect leader because he is a brilliant war/battlefield tactition. he can process new information very quickly and adapt his plans to the changing situations. captain america in the comics is generally portrayed as the best field comander due to the fact he can make plans and devise a plan on the go. captain america is always ready to face the fight head on. he will never back down from a foe, he will always stand up against any threat to his flag.
 
batman is the best detective, he is an excellent hunter in the sense that he can resaerch and stalk you to figure out who you are, what your weakness is, and how do i nail your weakness hard. batman too is a master of preparation. only with batman it is a little different. batman makes a plan from learning all there is to know about a character. he pre plans everything, he makes multiple plans for different scenarios because believe it or not, things don't always go as planned ;) 
 
as you can see, both are needed on a team. you need your fearless leader that will always be thinking of plans to keep up with the pace of the fight. and you also need the brilliant plan maker, that can and will be prepared for everything. 
 
experience is more than just war :)
#15 Posted by isaac_clarke (5448 posts) - - Show Bio

Rogers because as far as I remember, Batman isn't very good with the rings, while Steve took the Nova Force in him without a problem and was kicking rear with it for the issue.

#16 Posted by Erik (32799 posts) - - Show Bio

Why would Batman have a hard time using the rings? That would imply he has no vision, focus or will.

#17 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik said:
Why would Batman have a hard time using the rings? That would imply he has no vision, focus or will.
He did have a hard time controlling the Green Lantern Ring in that issue....if my memory serves me correctly.  
#18 Posted by progenitor (7541 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Nova w/ Worldmind ftw.
#19 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio

As opposed to Batman (who had Hal's ring for a couple of minutes), Steve actually utilized the Nova Force intelligently, and went toe to toe with Nova (who was at the time under the influence of the Serpent Crown). This isn't us imagining what Batman would do if he had accustomed himself to the ring, or if he had formal GL training. Because, quite simply, that's an imaginary version of a fictional character. There's nothing to estimate the outcome by, since everyone may have a different idea on just how competent Batman would be (for the record, I think he'd be very good under those conditions). As it stands, Batman has 0 feats and no training, all the while Steve has a very solid perfomance as well as the WorldMind to guide, and instruct him through combat.

Steve wins.

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#20 Posted by The_Mayhem_Theory (1060 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

As opposed to Batman (who had Hal's ring for a couple of minutes), Steve actually utilized the Nova Force intelligently, and went toe to toe with Nova (who was at the time under the influence of the Serpent Crown). This isn't us imagining what Batman would do if he had accustomed himself to the ring, or if he had formal GL training. Because, quite simply, that's an imaginary version of a fictional character. There's nothing to estimate the outcome by, since everyone may have a different idea on just how competent Batman would be (for the record, I think he'd be very good under those conditions). As it stands, Batman has 0 feats and no training, all the while Steve has a very solid perfomance as well as the WorldMind to guide, and instruct him through combat.

Steve wins.


 

Here here.
#21 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:

As opposed to Batman (who had Hal's ring for a couple of minutes), Steve actually utilized the Nova Force intelligently, and went toe to toe with Nova (who was at the time under the influence of the Serpent Crown). This isn't us imagining what Batman would do if he had accustomed himself to the ring, or if he had formal GL training. Because, quite simply, that's an imaginary version of a fictional character. There's nothing to estimate the outcome by, since everyone may have a different idea on just how competent Batman would be (for the record, I think he'd be very good under those conditions). As it stands, Batman has 0 feats and no training, all the while Steve has a very solid perfomance as well as the WorldMind to guide, and instruct him through combat.

Steve wins.

#22 Posted by lantian1 (161 posts) - - Show Bio
@MyronLee26: Batman's problem was letting go of the death of his parents the very thing that drives him.
 
When Batman put the ring on. Hal was telling him to remember when Batman was born and released a massive amount of power as constructs of bats.
 
Then formed contructs of his parents In order to put that night behind him. However Batman posesses such willpower that he refuses to do so. instead he wants to keep this driving force to continue his fight
 
In my opinion Batman is the one person who's willpower surpasses Hal Jordan.
 
Batman with experience ring slinging would be a power to be reckoned with and I just don't see Cap winning agains that.
#23 Posted by RedRanger_Konnor (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh idk.  I like cap and bats just about the same. But I really dont care for Nova and Green Lantern has been pretty cool to me anyways. As for fighting experience yeah cap has more but when dc and marvel fought Batman beat Captain America. So it really depends on which force is greater GL corps or the Nova Corps.

#24 Posted by PowerHerc (84035 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Nova defeats Green Batlantern.

#25 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio
@RedRanger_Konnor:  
Well actually, Cap had the upperhand in the fight for the most part, but Bats took advantage of the sewage drain. Lol. But in both Marvel vs DC and JLA/Avengers, Bats even said that Cap has a slight edge and that he could beat him. But crossovers arent canon, so i guess its just for reference i guess. Lol
#26 Posted by karrob (4279 posts) - - Show Bio
@odinforce said:
batman with will-power ring = over-powered
#27 Posted by FortressoftheMoon (678 posts) - - Show Bio

COSMIC FINAL JUSTICE!
#28 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve wins.
#29 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33469 posts) - - Show Bio

I think steve nova would get beat by Rich nova

#30 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio
@FortressoftheMoon said:
COSMIC FINAL JUSTICE!
#31 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio
@spiderbat87
I think steve nova would get beat by Rich nova
How you figure that?
#32 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33469 posts) - - Show Bio
@MyronLee26 said:
@spiderbat87
I think steve nova would get beat by Rich nova
How you figure that?
I dont mean thats what would happen just that's what should
#33 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

BUMP

#34 Posted by Maxwell Lord the fourth (1320 posts) - - Show Bio

I would go with Steve here;mainly because he has the worldmind with him.

#35 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#36 Posted by Iragexcudder (4907 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Nova FTW. Cap has worldmind and batman technically has nothing. Batman uses fear to his advantage so the willpower green ring wouldn't do anything significant.

#37 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve

#38 Posted by Pwok21 (2383 posts) - - Show Bio

Nova Prime takes any Green Lantern ignoring any mega-boosts like Ion or Parallax, and seeing as Steve was no slouch with Nova's powers I'll go with him.

#39 Posted by Iragexcudder (4907 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman would be a lot more effective if he had the yellow ring, Captain Nova FTW

#40 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

As opposed to Batman (who had Hal's ring for a couple of minutes), Steve actually utilized the Nova Force intelligently, and went toe to toe with Nova (who was at the time under the influence of the Serpent Crown). This isn't us imagining what Batman would do if he had accustomed himself to the ring, or if he had formal GL training. Because, quite simply, that's an imaginary version of a fictional character. There's nothing to estimate the outcome by, since everyone may have a different idea on just how competent Batman would be (for the record, I think he'd be very good under those conditions). As it stands, Batman has 0 feats and no training, all the while Steve has a very solid perfomance as well as the WorldMind to guide, and instruct him through combat.

Steve wins.

Preach.

#41 Edited by dondave (37516 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap

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#42 Posted by SirNickTheEpic (590 posts) - - Show Bio

richer rider >>>>>>>>>>>>> hal Jordan > john > kyle > captain America (nova) > batman (lantern)

#43 Posted by dondave (37516 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirnicktheepic

richer rider >>>>>>>>>>>>> hal Jordan > john > kyle > captain America (nova) > batman (lantern)

Based on what?

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#44 Posted by Experio (16062 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap

#45 Posted by Jbourne_32 (1417 posts) - - Show Bio
Neither have many feats. This thread should be locked
#46 Posted by SirNickTheEpic (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: the fact that he has all the nova force and world mind... the nova force is only limited due to the worldmind holding the user back much like the power ring is limited on the will of the user... sooo basically nova prime (richard) has power equivalent to every lantern combined but because hes a good space cop and has the worldmind he holds it back... morals off no one survives

#47 Posted by dondave (37516 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirnicktheepic And on what basis do you determine that the Nova Force even makes him equal to one Lantern? I don't see anything stopping Hal from trapping Richard in his Lantern, Pocket Dimension, Central Power Battery, slowing down time, sending him him into the future or using his Molecular Manipulation.

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#48 Posted by SirNickTheEpic (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave:

how do you know nova cant do the same? hes faster than hal and so is the world mind... hal has human speed thinking nova has the worldmind which read the silver surfer was approaching before surfer was near them... surfer travels a few million times the speed of light.... hal doesn't nova can move a few hundred times the speed of light open a stargate in lanterns head games over. gravity lock on hal he cant move.... or the lantern is an energy weapon nova can drain the energy from it or absorb what ever hal throws at him

as stated: nova prime >>>>>>>>>>> hal

#49 Posted by dorukesin (6030 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave:

how do you know nova cant do the same? hes faster than hal and so is the world mind... hal has human speed thinking nova has the worldmind which read the silver surfer was approaching before surfer was near them... surfer travels a few million times the speed of light.... hal doesn't nova can move a few hundred times the speed of light open a stargate in lanterns head games over. gravity lock on hal he cant move.... or the lantern is an energy weapon nova can drain the energy from it or absorb what ever hal throws at him

as stated: nova prime >>>>>>>>>>> hal

Sorry but Nova is not bigger than Hal .Also Hal can dilate the time in a fraction of nanosecond(picosecond)

#50 Edited by SirNickTheEpic (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@dorukesin:

lantern ring is the same as the nova force.... normal nova hal can beat nova prime hes doesn't theres no way