captain marvel vs. thor

" @GhostPool: I don't even get what you're trying to say. Are you saying Thor wins because he's a god while Captain Marvel only gets his powers from gods? "

 Surfer is no God but he posses great Cosmic Power.The only reason Sups beat Thor was bcs DC writers wrote it when the clash came Marvel didnt bother to watse time writing those comics.DC writers made Marvel look bad look at all the Marvel vs DC comics DC one all of the fights because DC writers wrote the whole thing Marvel just let some copyrights  but Thor & Hulk were not give copywrites so they had to be changed due to that they made both Thor & Hulk look like a$$wimps.

" @Fresh Prince said:

" @GhostPool: I don't even get what you're trying to say. Are you saying Thor wins because he's a god while Captain Marvel only gets his powers from gods? "

Yes that what im trying to say but you need to see that CM has the power of 6 gods yet only a fraction of the real God Power CM is stronger than thor faster too but Thor's hammer can be thorwn at spped of light so that make the hammer faster than CM. "

" Captain Marvel is stronger, faster, and not weak to magic like Superman.  Guess who wins. "

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Captain Marvel wins in a very even fight

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This isnt an even fight, Thor wont even put up a decent fight
He gets curbstomped here

" This isnt an even fight, Thor wont even put up a decent fight He gets curbstomped here "

" What 6 gods does Billy get powers from? Strength from Hercules, Lightining from Zeus, speed of Mercury, stamina of Atlas. That is 4 gods and Thor argueably has the same power. Despite the loss of translation from Marvel to D.C. Thor is just as strong as Herc, has superfast speed and reaction time tho not quite on a Flash level, stamina just as enduring as Atlas and as for Zeus who is another God of Thunder but also a Sky Father. Billy doesn't get all their powers just some of them. As for Achilles and Solomon they were just humans, nonthing divine about them. Thor could beat Billy but Billy could also prevail. My vote goes to Thor. "

There is something I have to say: DAMN YOU DC COMICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

" @DaMainMan said:

" What 6 gods does Billy get powers from? Strength from Hercules, Lightining from Zeus, speed of Mercury, stamina of Atlas. That is 4 gods and Thor argueably has the same power. Despite the loss of translation from Marvel to D.C. Thor is just as strong as Herc, has superfast speed and reaction time tho not quite on a Flash level, stamina just as enduring as Atlas and as for Zeus who is another God of Thunder but also a Sky Father. Billy doesn't get all their powers just some of them. As for Achilles and Solomon they were just humans, nonthing divine about them. Thor could beat Billy but Billy could also prevail. My vote goes to Thor. "

Captain Marvel is Superman's physical equivalent. He is stronger, faster, and more durable than Thor. "

" @Lunacyde said:

" @DaMainMan said:

" What 6 gods does Billy get powers from? Strength from Hercules, Lightining from Zeus, speed of Mercury, stamina of Atlas. That is 4 gods and Thor argueably has the same power. Despite the loss of translation from Marvel to D.C. Thor is just as strong as Herc, has superfast speed and reaction time tho not quite on a Flash level, stamina just as enduring as Atlas and as for Zeus who is another God of Thunder but also a Sky Father. Billy doesn't get all their powers just some of them. As for Achilles and Solomon they were just humans, nonthing divine about them. Thor could beat Billy but Billy could also prevail. My vote goes to Thor. "

Captain Marvel is Superman's physical equivalent. He is stronger, faster, and more durable than Thor. "

don't forget to mention that billy is also smarter than thor "

" What 6 gods does Billy get powers from? Strength from Hercules, Lightining from Zeus, speed of Mercury, stamina of Atlas. That is 4 gods and Thor argueably has the same power. Despite the loss of translation from Marvel to D.C. Thor is just as strong as Herc, has superfast speed and reaction time tho not quite on a Flash level, stamina just as enduring as Atlas and as for Zeus who is another God of Thunder but also a Sky Father. Billy doesn't get all their powers just some of them. As for Achilles and Solomon they were just humans, nonthing divine about them. Thor could beat Billy but Billy could also prevail. My vote goes to Thor. "

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 Surfer is no God but he posses great Cosmic Power.The only reason Sups beat Thor was bcs DC writers wrote it when the clash came Marvel didnt bother to watse time writing those comics.DC writers made Marvel look bad look at all the Marvel vs DC comics DC one all of the fights because DC writers wrote the whole thing Marvel just let some copyrights  but Thor & Hulk were not give copywrites so they had to be changed due to that they made both Thor & Hulk look like a$$wimps.

 
That confirms my suspicion that you never read the crossover. Kurt Busiek (you know, the "DC writer" who wrote the issue where Thor and Superman clash) used to write regularly Avengers, Iron Man and Thunderbolts, and those are from the top of my head. He has worked for both companies, but he can. by no means, be called "a DC writer", especially by the time the JLA/Avengers series was written.
 
The rest are just nonsense. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

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 Surfer is no God but he posses great Cosmic Power.The only reason Sups beat Thor was bcs DC writers wrote it when the clash came Marvel didnt bother to watse time writing those comics.DC writers made Marvel look bad look at all the Marvel vs DC comics DC one all of the fights because DC writers wrote the whole thing Marvel just let some copyrights  but Thor & Hulk were not give copywrites so they had to be changed due to that they made both Thor & Hulk look like a$$wimps.

 
That confirms my suspicion that you never read the crossover. Kurt Busiek (you know, the "DC writer" who wrote the issue where Thor and Superman clash) used to write regularly Avengers, Iron Man and Thunderbolts, and those are from the top of my head. He has worked for both companies, but he can. by no means, be called "a DC writer", especially by the time the JLA/Avengers series was written.
 
The rest are just nonsense. "

In the "JLA/Avengers" crossover, it appears to later be hinted that Thor was testing Kal-El. Or Summing him up, or whatever.  Or seeing what he could do. "

Thor was out cold for the rest of the fight, and even expressed his amazement on how someone was able to resist the might of Mjolnir. Didn't seem like he was testing Superman to me.
 
Of course the crossover was so terrible, that I wouldn't rule out that notion being introduced later on.
 
All these are besides the point, though.
 

" @spiderpigbart said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

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 Surfer is no God but he posses great Cosmic Power.The only reason Sups beat Thor was bcs DC writers wrote it when the clash came Marvel didnt bother to watse time writing those comics.DC writers made Marvel look bad look at all the Marvel vs DC comics DC one all of the fights because DC writers wrote the whole thing Marvel just let some copyrights  but Thor & Hulk were not give copywrites so they had to be changed due to that they made both Thor & Hulk look like a$$wimps.

 
That confirms my suspicion that you never read the crossover. Kurt Busiek (you know, the "DC writer" who wrote the issue where Thor and Superman clash) used to write regularly Avengers, Iron Man and Thunderbolts, and those are from the top of my head. He has worked for both companies, but he can. by no means, be called "a DC writer", especially by the time the JLA/Avengers series was written.
 
The rest are just nonsense. "

In the "JLA/Avengers" crossover, it appears to later be hinted that Thor was testing Kal-El. Or Summing him up, or whatever.  Or seeing what he could do. "

 

Thor was out cold for the rest of the fight, and even expressed his amazement on how someone was able to resist the might of Mjolnir. Didn't seem like he was testing Superman to me.
 
Of course the crossover was so terrible, that I wouldn't rule out that notion being introduced later on.
 
All these are besides the point, though.
 

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" @Morpheus_ said:

" @spiderpigbart said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

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 Surfer is no God but he posses great Cosmic Power.The only reason Sups beat Thor was bcs DC writers wrote it when the clash came Marvel didnt bother to watse time writing those comics.DC writers made Marvel look bad look at all the Marvel vs DC comics DC one all of the fights because DC writers wrote the whole thing Marvel just let some copyrights  but Thor & Hulk were not give copywrites so they had to be changed due to that they made both Thor & Hulk look like a$$wimps.

 
That confirms my suspicion that you never read the crossover. Kurt Busiek (you know, the "DC writer" who wrote the issue where Thor and Superman clash) used to write regularly Avengers, Iron Man and Thunderbolts, and those are from the top of my head. He has worked for both companies, but he can. by no means, be called "a DC writer", especially by the time the JLA/Avengers series was written.
 
The rest are just nonsense. "

In the "JLA/Avengers" crossover, it appears to later be hinted that Thor was testing Kal-El. Or Summing him up, or whatever.  Or seeing what he could do. "

 

Thor was out cold for the rest of the fight, and even expressed his amazement on how someone was able to resist the might of Mjolnir. Didn't seem like he was testing Superman to me.
 
Of course the crossover was so terrible, that I wouldn't rule out that notion being introduced later on.
 
All these are besides the point, though.
 

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Later on he (Thor) was talking to Captain Marvel or Green Arrow or Green Lantern or someone and the conversation went something like this:    Thor: Your Superman should not cross me again.  Other Guy Who I Cannot Recall: But when you and him fought-  Thor: Yes.  But now I know his limits and can use them.               Sorry, no scan. "

I'd say its a even fight, If its regular Thor vs Regular cap marvel I'd go with thor, and would the ppl saying superman>thor ble ble ble provide any evidence of that? just plz remember, crossovers does not count, unless ur ready to admit wolverine>lobo, storm>wonder woman, elektra > catwoman, photon>green lantern, etc... 

" I'd say its a even fight, If its regular Thor vs Regular cap marvel I'd go with thor, and would the ppl saying superman>thor ble ble ble provide any evidence of that? just plz remember, crossovers does not count, unless ur ready to admit wolverine>lobo, storm>wonder woman, elektra > catwoman, photon>green lantern, etc...  "

" @Niten said:

" I'd say its a even fight, If its regular Thor vs Regular cap marvel I'd go with thor, and would the ppl saying superman>thor ble ble ble provide any evidence of that? just plz remember, crossovers does not count, unless ur ready to admit wolverine>lobo, storm>wonder woman, elektra > catwoman, photon>green lantern, etc...  "

In the case you haven't noticed, only the people voting for Thor are bitching about that. The rest haven't mentioned it.   As for Evidence, I can provide evidence that Superman can move half of a planet. Thor can't. I can provide evidence that Superman can move 17 times the speed of light. Thor can't. I can provide evidence that Superman can survive Supernovas and two planets smashing into each other. Thor can't. Thor hasn't done anything to prove himself of that level. And Captain Marvel is equal to Superman. "

well what about that " Big Ole Snake " that Thor lifted up... da Midget Serpent

lmmfao jk

lol re@AtPhantom said:

" @Niten said:

" I'd say its a even fight, If its regular Thor vs Regular cap marvel I'd go with thor, and would the ppl saying superman>thor ble ble ble provide any evidence of that? just plz remember, crossovers does not count, unless ur ready to admit wolverine>lobo, storm>wonder woman, elektra > catwoman, photon>green lantern, etc...  "

In the case you haven't noticed, only the people voting for Thor are bitching about that. The rest haven't mentioned it.   As for Evidence, I can provide evidence that Superman can move half of a planet. Thor can't. I can provide evidence that Superman can move 17 times the speed of light. Thor can't. I can provide evidence that Superman can survive Supernovas and two planets smashing into each other. Thor can't. Thor hasn't done anything to prove himself of that level. And Captain Marvel is equal to Superman. "

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Niten said:

" I'd say its a even fight, If its regular Thor vs Regular cap marvel I'd go with thor, and would the ppl saying superman>thor ble ble ble provide any evidence of that? just plz remember, crossovers does not count, unless ur ready to admit wolverine>lobo, storm>wonder woman, elektra > catwoman, photon>green lantern, etc...  "

In the case you haven't noticed, only the people voting for Thor are bitching about that. The rest haven't mentioned it.   As for Evidence, I can provide evidence that Superman can move half of a planet. Thor can't. I can provide evidence that Superman can move 17 times the speed of light. Thor can't. I can provide evidence that Superman can survive Supernovas and two planets smashing into each other. Thor can't. Thor hasn't done anything to prove himself of that level. And Captain Marvel is equal to Superman. "

well what about that " Big Ole Snake " that Thor lifted up... da Midget Serpent

lmmfao jk

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7 Gods>1 God.
CM wins this.

" @King Saturn said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Niten said:

" I'd say its a even fight, If its regular Thor vs Regular cap marvel I'd go with thor, and would the ppl saying superman>thor ble ble ble provide any evidence of that? just plz remember, crossovers does not count, unless ur ready to admit wolverine>lobo, storm>wonder woman, elektra > catwoman, photon>green lantern, etc...  "

In the case you haven't noticed, only the people voting for Thor are bitching about that. The rest haven't mentioned it.   As for Evidence, I can provide evidence that Superman can move half of a planet. Thor can't. I can provide evidence that Superman can move 17 times the speed of light. Thor can't. I can provide evidence that Superman can survive Supernovas and two planets smashing into each other. Thor can't. Thor hasn't done anything to prove himself of that level. And Captain Marvel is equal to Superman. "

well what about that " Big Ole Snake " that Thor lifted up... da Midget Serpent

lmmfao jk

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LOL Still about a few hundred thousand times smaller than the Earth.  Now I know what you're thinking: "But the thing is positively huge when he lifts it." Well, it's not. The fact that they made it look huge on the panel for a good shot is nothing more than a failure in scale. "

Captain Marvel takes this hands down...Thor has no attribute greater than CM honestly

The main thing I've never liked about these type of fights is the argument of he is too fast for such and such. Now if we are taking the characters morals out of the equation then that is one thing, otherwise we rarely see them WTF owning people in the blink of an eye. More often than not people who are slower than them are trading blows back and forth with one another. People not attributed with super speed going toe to toe with Cpt Marvel, Superman, and the likes.

"mmm first, ppl is saying shazam has the power of 6 gods ble ble ble, if u bother to read other than comics (and even in comics) not hercules, nor salomon, nor  achilles were gods, and they captain marvel gets his power from shazam the mage, not from any god. "

"The cap marvel that fought spectre was not exactly the regular cap marvel, and every 1 that actually read the comic knows that"

"and yes, even if ppl that never has read marvel and yet talks big knows, thor has move faster than light, so yes, he is fast enoght to fight superman and / or cap marvel and since you ofer it I accept the offer, plz provide that proves that u say u have about thor not being able to survive a supernova (or 2 or even3) or that he can't move planets =x  and if cap marvel is equal han superman then he still loses, since thor > supes  "

" yeah the scale of the snake is way off compared to its regular size... I read somewhere that the Midgard Serpent was 300 feet long on average...  "

Thor is omnipotent

" The main thing I've never liked about these type of fights is the argument of he is too fast for such and such. Now if we are taking the characters morals out of the equation then that is one thing, otherwise we rarely see them WTF owning people in the blink of an eye. More often than not people who are slower than them are trading blows back and forth with one another. People not attributed with super speed going toe to toe with Cpt Marvel, Superman, and the likes. "

" @Niten said:

"mmm first, ppl is saying shazam has the power of 6 gods ble ble ble, if u bother to read other than comics (and even in comics) not hercules, nor salomon, nor  achilles were gods, and they captain marvel gets his power from shazam the mage, not from any god. "

How does that have anything to do with what I said? And who gives a damn? He could be getting his power from radioactive monkeys and it still wouldn't matter. What matter is he has it, and he has enough of it to beat Thor.

"The cap marvel that fought spectre was not exactly the regular cap marvel, and every 1 that actually read the comic knows that"

Have I actually mentioned the Spectre in my post? WTF are you talking about?

"and yes, even if ppl that never has read marvel and yet talks big knows, thor has move faster than light, so yes, he is fast enoght to fight superman and / or cap marvel and since you ofer it I accept the offer, plz provide that proves that u say u have about thor not being able to survive a supernova (or 2 or even3) or that he can't move planets =x  and if cap marvel is equal han superman then he still loses, since thor > supes  "

1. Thor can't move faster than light, his hammer can. That makes thor fast in a straight line, it doesn't give him the reflexes of Superman. 2. I can't prove a negative. Anyone with a grasp of logic knows that. You're the one arguing for Thor and it's your job to provide evidence that he can do what you think he can do. I'm not going to do your dirty work. "

tie

"1 thors hammer   trascends time (and space) so its way faster than both superman and cap marvel, thor on the other hand has fight at light speed.   "

" 2  you are wrong, Im not arguning on thor, nor are you arguing on cap marvel, we are both arguing in a fight involving two chars and to do that we both must prove knowladge of both chars, Im willing and capactated to provide any evidence needed to prove my points on cap marvel so if you are going to say thor cant take 'x' attack or damage you have to prove it, I'll gladly do the same for shazam's disciple "

Actually Thor once survived the force of an exploding sun, but it could have just been PIS because other times, he gets hurt by things no where near as strong. For example, he once got knocked out by a regular missile.
 

This is why I don't take feats from 40 years ago seriously. As much as Kirby and Lee were awesome, they didn't really give a damn about consistency.

Wow talking much yet not saying anything. You've been arguing for Thor since you said "Thor wins." that means you've used the knowledge of both characters in your head and discerned who you think would win, as have I. Now we're arguing about whose opinion is correct, your opinion saying Thor and mine saying Marvel. So essentially, yes, you're arguing for Thor.  Now let me lay something else out for you: You cannot prove a negative. I know that Thor cannot move a planet or survive a supernova because he has never done so, nor has he any feats to put himself at that level. If you beg to differ, prove me wrong.  And I have no idea what "capactated" means "

I know that Thor cannot move a planet or survive a supernova because he has never done so"  

       
 

" nor has he any feats to put himself at that level. "

" @Niten: Wow, did they ever ignore the laws of physics there. The entire Earth would have sucked onto Thor. "

" @Niten: Wow nice, you've shown me a scan which proves.....nothing. Did you bother to look at it? They throw a bomb at him which makes him attract things around him with the force of a neutron star. Nowhere in there is he actually surviving an explosion of a star. All he survives is a pile of metal. Uncanny.
 
Now for the other part of your post, notice where I said

" nor has he any feats to put himself at that level. "

Not only has he not moved a planet, he has not done anything that would match that feat. Ergo he has no evidence to put him at the level of Superman or Captain Marvel. "

" captain marvel hasn't moved a planet either, that means he can't? you answering he can because supes can aplies to thor too "

" nor has he any feats to put himself at that level. "

" @King Saturn said:

"well what about that " Big Ole Snake " that Thor lifted up... da Midget Serpent

lmmfao jk"

LOL Still about a few hundred thousand times smaller than the Earth.  Now I know what you're thinking: "But the thing is positively huge when he lifts it." Well, it's not. The fact that they made it look huge on the panel for a good shot is nothing more than a failure in scale. "

" @King Hercules said:

" @AtPhantom:@AtPhantom said:

" @King Hercules said:

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Those goods that empower him have no real magic. Only Zeus from which he gets the lighting. And Thor is the god of storm. It's magic that allows him to have the power of those gods. The magic of Shazam. "

If you are implying that he can use the lightning to depower Cap, no. Darkseid couldn't do it when he had usurped the power of all the gods on Earth. "

No, because the lighting that gives him his power isn't natural and Thor controls the natural storm. My point was that Thor is also a storm-god and a being of magic. He can hurt Captain Marvel with this. He can't win because of the obvious, but I wanted to point out that Captain can be hurt by magic. "

He's a kid with not much magic experience, he's always been weaker to Superman at least Thor gave Supeman a good fight. Yeah I think Thor can turn Marvel back into Billy and that's the end of it 
 
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What has two thumbs and kicks CM butt? 

This guy! 
 

Giving the win to Cap Marvel

Someone a while back tried to argue that Thor could transform Captain Marvel back into Billy. Just remembered how silly that was.

Captain Marvel takes it.