Captain marvel vs. Thanos
" Terribly bad mismatch. I thought there were rules about not having match ups like this. Thanos stomps. (I never say that because I think it sounds dumb, but that is the only description that fits) "No imo :-)
" @crabtree said:yezzir" I'm just noticing there's a lot of DC fan boys on this website "ya think "
Captain Marvel hasn't shown anything that would make one believe he could do what other high end heralds have failed to do in groups and i find the DC character's are stronger post not only being erroneous but is nothing but a personal opinion lacking any merit.
Thanos has been able to repeatedly defeat not just Silver Surfer who is by far more versatile then Captain Marvel and just as durable within a few blows.. He has also taken hit's from a madden raged Thor who was in possession of the power gem and shrug them off with little damage.. CM isnt a blood lusted character that would operate above what these two being do within their personality nor does he have any feats that would suggest he would use his powers differently then how they are regularly depicted as.
" @Vance Astro said:He can do it several ways.Which ever way he chooses is up to him because Thanos isn't fast enough to do anything about it." Cap wins. "How? "
" Thanos is just plain too mean and ruthless for Captain Marvel to contend with successfully, so I grudgingly say Thanos wins. "Thanos wins, though who bumped this?
" @comicdude23 said:" @RiseofApocalypse said:Name 3. ""He has 0 ways of winning. "He has many "
He blitz him
He uses Zeus's lightning
He beats him down
Hmmm, ok." @RiseofApocalypse said:
" @comicdude23 said:
Name 3. "" @RiseofApocalypse said:
He has many ""He has 0 ways of winning. "
"
1- He blitz him
2- He uses Zeus's lightning
3- He beats him down
1- He sure as hell gets blitzed. I mean how could some character like him ever not get blitzed? That's why he couldn't react to Thor's hammer when it was thrown at him. Oh wait....
But you're obviously right though. I mean he sure as hell couldn't react to Ganymede who blitzed Terrax and nearly blitzed the Silver Surfer. Oh wait...
Still, my bad for assuming that Thanos can't get blitzed by someone who rarely utilizes his speed in combat. After all, Thanos couldn't react to the Silver Surfer's sudden blast. Oh wait...
Then again, Thanos was like a living statue to the Fallen One who tried to ram himself into him. Oh wait...
(I'm not uploading these to the site because I don't want to stretch the page too much)
http://img153.imageshack.us/i/thanos12014.jpg/
http://img526.imageshack.us/i/thanos12015.jpg/
http://img442.imageshack.us/i/thanos12016.jpg/
Now post scans of a REGULAR speedster blitzing Thanos. By regular, I don't mean someone who could reach his destination before even thinking of going there (i.e the Runner)
2- Which wouldn't do anything once Thanos puts his shields up. Not that he needs to do that. I mean he was fine after going blow to blow with Odin, the Maker, and the Walker. Plus, he can't be killed.
3- Ask the Champion of the Universe how that worked out for him.
Ok, let's say they don't prove anything. My question still needs to be answered though; "Now post scans of a REGULAR speedster blitzing Thanos. By regular, I don't mean someone who could reach his destination before even thinking of going there (i.e the Runner). "" I like how those scans don't prove anything. "
" @Vance Astro said:Marvel doesn't have "speedsters".Thanos has fought Marvel characters that can move at lightspeeds but they aren't "speedsters".If characters like Silver Surfer,Fallen One,Thor,Gladiator,Beta Ray Bill,etc. used their max speed all the time they'd be untouchable.Marvel knows that Thanos isn't very fast so they tone down the max speed for characters that he fights because most cosmics are FTL.They do the same thing for Hulk.He wouldn't be able to tag half characters he's fought without writing." I like how those scans don't prove anything. "Ok, let's say they don't prove anything. My question still needs to be answered though; " Now post scans of a REGULAR speedster blitzing Thanos. By regular, I don't mean someone who could reach his destination before even thinking of going there (i.e the Runner). " "
" @RiseofApocalypse said:I agree with you that characters like Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Thor, etc. don't utilize their combat speeds as well as they should, but so what? That's how they fight with 99% of the characters they face, it's not just Thanos. Same with Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, and the like." @Vance Astro said:Marvel doesn't have "speedsters".Thanos has fought Marvel characters that can move at lightspeeds but they aren't "speedsters".If characters like Silver Surfer,Fallen One,Thor,Gladiator,Beta Ray Bill,etc. used their max speed all the time they'd be untouchable.Marvel knows that Thanos isn't very fast so they tone down the max speed for characters that he fights because most cosmics are FTL.They do the same thing for Hulk.He wouldn't be able to tag half characters he's fought without writing. "" I like how those scans don't prove anything. "Ok, let's say they don't prove anything. My question still needs to be answered though; " Now post scans of a REGULAR speedster blitzing Thanos. By regular, I don't mean someone who could reach his destination before even thinking of going there (i.e the Runner). " "
We saw how Thanos reacted to the Fallen One's TRAVEL speed. He tried to ram himself into Thanos at max speed hence this page: http://img526.imageshack.us/i/thanos12015.jpg/. Also, in Thanos Imperative we saw how Thanos effortlessly stomped Lord Mar-Vell; the same Lord Mar-Vell who casually defeated the Silver Surfer and Nova (?) in combat, the same Lord Mar-Vell who was shown to be Adamagus' superior. You're basically disregarding all of Thanos' reaction feats (even his power feats at times like his fight with the Maker) because YOU believe Marvel tones down their characters so Thanos can beat them. What you're saying in this thread is basically this (I'm switching Thanos with Wonder Woman just for observational purposes): "Wonder Woman defeated Deathstroke because DC had to tone him down because they knew Deathstroke is a bad-ass that would never lose to Wonder Woman in a fair fight!" On panel evidence >>> what you and me have to say. And on panel evidence supports Thanos' superiority to herald level characters such as Captain Marvel.
@comicdude23 said:
" @RiseofApocalypse: Captain Marvel has magical lightning. Straight from Zeus..... "
So what? Thor has magical lightning as well yet we've seen him get beat up by Thanos. And Odin is at least on par with DC's Zeus, yet he had trouble with pre-upgrades Thanos. Avatar of Death Thanos would defeat Odin imo.
" @Vance Astro said:Not true.Superman,Cap,and Wonder Woman use their speed alot..the difference is most of their opponents have some level of comparability to them so that blitzing them doesn't make much of a difference.I'm not ignoring Thanos' reaction feats.He just doesn't have any worth mentioning.He's never tagged a Silver Surfer or a Fallen One or any cosmic being at max speed.Just because he's beaten them doesn't mean he's actually fast enough to tag them.I don't know what point you are trying to make with what you're saying about Wonder Woman but Deathstroke has FEATS that prove he can tag her.Thanos doesn't have any that prove he can tag Cap." @RiseofApocalypse said:I agree with you that characters like Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Thor, etc. don't utilize their combat speeds as well as they should, but so what? That's how they fight with 99% of the characters they face, it's not just Thanos. Same with Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, and the like." @Vance Astro said:Marvel doesn't have "speedsters".Thanos has fought Marvel characters that can move at lightspeeds but they aren't "speedsters".If characters like Silver Surfer,Fallen One,Thor,Gladiator,Beta Ray Bill,etc. used their max speed all the time they'd be untouchable.Marvel knows that Thanos isn't very fast so they tone down the max speed for characters that he fights because most cosmics are FTL.They do the same thing for Hulk.He wouldn't be able to tag half characters he's fought without writing. "" I like how those scans don't prove anything. "Ok, let's say they don't prove anything. My question still needs to be answered though; " Now post scans of a REGULAR speedster blitzing Thanos. By regular, I don't mean someone who could reach his destination before even thinking of going there (i.e the Runner). " "
We saw how Thanos reacted to the Fallen One's TRAVEL speed. He tried to ram himself into Thanos at max speed hence this page: http://img526.imageshack.us/i/thanos12015.jpg/. Also, in Thanos Imperative we saw how Thanos effortlessly stomped Lord Mar-Vell; the same Lord Mar-Vell who casually defeated the Silver Surfer and Nova (?) in combat, the same Lord Mar-Vell who was shown to be Adamagus' superior. You're basically disregarding all of Thanos' reaction feats (even his power feats at times like his fight with the Maker) because YOU believe Marvel tones down their characters so Thanos can beat them. What you're saying in this thread is basically this (I'm switching Thanos with Wonder Woman just for observational purposes): "Wonder Woman defeated Deathstroke because DC had to tone him down because they knew Deathstroke is a bad-ass that would never lose to Wonder Woman in a fair fight!" On panel evidence >>> what you and me have to say. And on panel evidence supports Thanos' superiority to herald level characters such as Captain Marvel.
Ive seen multiple arguments about the odin thing that odin wasnt at his best, and he didnt do a galaxy exploding blast because he wouldve well killed everyone and that Sif and BRB had to come and ask Odin to stop. On the other hand people say Thanos tied with Odin, he shrugged off odin's best blows when they clearly werent and such and people misinterpreting text and posting incomplete scans.
Don't listen to them. If Odin wasn't trying to defeat Thanos, then why was Asgard, a place that's been said to be nigh-indestructible by multiple sources in ruins? Thanos was the one who wasn't at his best. He wanted to AVOID fighting Odin." @Valtot: Ive seen multiple arguments about the odin thing that odin wasnt at his best, and he didnt do a galaxy exploding blast because he wouldve well killed everyone and that Sif and BRB had to come and ask Odin to stop. On the other hand people say Thanos tied with Odin, he shrugged off odin's best blows when they clearly werent and such and people misinterpreting text and posting incomplete scans. "
Edit: And it's not like Odin always destroys galaxies in his fights. He's fought his greatest rivals like Skagg, the Mangog, Surtur, Ymir, etc. and hasn't destroyed any galaxies in those said battles.
Stop overblowing his abilities.He's not that powerful and he never has been.He's not comparable to Doomsday." @comicdude23: comicdude thanos could beat superman/ captain marvel/ wonderwoman/ and martain manhunter simontanously hes just that powerful. Hes like a supersmart doomsday with cosmic powers "
"@god_spawn said:
Don't listen to them. If Odin wasn't trying to defeat Thanos, then why was Asgard, a place that's been said to be nigh-indestructible by multiple sources in ruins? Thanos was the one who wasn't at his best. He wanted to AVOID fighting Odin. Edit: And it's not like Odin always destroys galaxies in his fights. He's fought his greatest rivals like Skagg, the Mangog, Surtur, Ymir, etc. and hasn't destroyed galaxies in those battles. "" @Valtot: Ive seen multiple arguments about the odin thing that odin wasnt at his best, and he didnt do a galaxy exploding blast because he wouldve well killed everyone and that Sif and BRB had to come and ask Odin to stop. On the other hand people say Thanos tied with Odin, he shrugged off odin's best blows when they clearly werent and such and people misinterpreting text and posting incomplete scans. "
Sentry brought down asgard rather quickly and easily. And inconsistency can plague any character, if Odin was blasting galaxy busting attacks all the time, it would be boring. Odin wasnt facing thanos at his best thats what they said, Personally no i dont think Thanos is on Odin level unless he has tech to back him up. And again personally i dont even like thanos but that doesnt plague my opinion on him. It would be biased and unfair to the character. Thanos is powerful and has massive powers but could thanos beat odin? sure if he had prep time. Could Thanos beat captain marvel? Possible if he had prep time.
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