Captain Marvel & Mary Marvel vs Mar- Vell & Ms. Marvel

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captain marvel pre new 52

Mary Marvel pre new 52

both are blood lusted

Mar-vell and Ms Marvel feats from 1st appearance to now

no bfr

takes place on a deserted indestructible earth

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By Ms. Marvel you mean Carol Danvers, the current Captain Marvel, and not the new Ms. Marvel, Kamala Khan, right?

I would guess Team 2 because Carol can probably get just as strong as DCs Captain Marvel, is probably a better hand-to-hand combatant and can harm him with her energy attacks, while she would just absorb his. And while Mar-Vell is not as strong as the rest he is fast enough to keep his distance and has a planetbusting distance attacks.

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@stahlflamme: I dont know I was thinking more of Captain Marvel and Mary Marvel winning Captain marvel would take out mar-vell and then they will both gang up on ms marvel and defeat her

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@johnadams: I agree that if Captain Marvel caught up to him Mar-Vell would probably be taken out quickly and Team 1 would win by ganging up on Carol. But Mar-Vell is fast enough to space travel so I think he could keep his distance.

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This is actually a pretty good setup. A lot of variables to consider, Carol absorbing their energy could be a game changer. Regardless I think a fight between these pairs would be marvelous.

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@stahlflamme:

I dont mar-vell is fast but I dont know if he could out run them forever I mean think about it, if he is going to try to hit captain marvel and mary marvel from a far it would be some what difficult because if he gets close, its going to be tough for him if they catch up, but while he is doing that captain marvel and mary marvel would be beating up ms marvel

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@johnadams:

The moment one of them isn't chasing him he starts firing at them possibly even while they are chasing him. They can't fight Carol and dodge his attacks at the same time.

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@stahlflamme: hmm well it depends since mar-vell knows nothing about captain marvel or mary marvel, so I dont know how he would react anyway it would probably be a tough fight

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I suppose there is intel as a factor. If Mar-Vell tried to attack them head-on or Carol attacked with only her base strength Team 2 would probably lose or at least suffer quiet a bit of damage.

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@stahlflamme: yah this is quite a bit to see what would happen, would mar-vell atack them head on or try to zone them, would ms marvel do the same or would she absorb energy it all depends

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DC Team. All feats? For sure DC.

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#15  Edited By Stahlflamme

@johnadams: I suppose that means Marvel wins, whoever that might be.

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I think Captain Marvel would have a hard time hitting a woman, but Mary could take Carol after a time. Carol really doesn't have a problem beating up young women, but Mary is practically invulnerable and doesn't tire. Cap against Mar-Vel might last longer, but I think again it would just be a matter of time.

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@mark_stephen: that's what i feel would happen, but plenty of different scenarios can happen.

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Mary could solo this fake marvels IMO

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@stahlflamme: ms. Marvel cannot absorb the shazam lightning and the batsons are physically superior to her, mar-vell with cosmic awareness will figure out it's magical powers, he will have not the physical damage to take them down, but his energy blast should be able to hurt them, mary can deal with carol and billy can deal with any of them, it's that simple.

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That a lot of Ms

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#25  Edited By vinomonster

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@stahlflamme: @cosmic_lantern: When did ms marvel aka an 80 tonner become strong enough to fight Superman level characters?. Pre 52 Mary Marvel has beaten Donna Troy and Green Lantern at the same time with ease. She also defeated Captain Atom. Pre 52 Captain Marvel(Shazam) has given Wonder Woman,Superman,etc a run for their money. How is ms marvel going to beat one of them 2?. Both members from Team 1 have feats that outclass ms marvel by far in strength,speed and durability. Are we supposed to assume that mar-vell solos?. Can some of you post feats for mar-vell please?. I don't recall him being in the power class of Team 1.

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I hope that this scans can prove that Captain Marvel and Mary Marvel is out of team 2's league. Billy has been able to face an Unbound Spectre that feat is enough to prove that this is already a stomp.

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#26  Edited By johnadams

@vinomonster: Wow I yah forgot that he faced the spectre, thanks for the scans ugh im dumb.

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#28  Edited By Helicoprion

mar-vell and ms marvel

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DC team.

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Team DC. Unless someone can post feats from Mar-vell that I haven't seen..

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@helicoprion: really because, billy was able to face the spectre, and mary beat captain atom so....

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Mar-vells only real edge against Billy would be his cosmic awareness, that might give him a clue to how to trick Billy into saying Shazam or tricking him into the path of a lightning bolt. Carol's only edge is treachery and since Mary wouldn't know her there'd be no way for Carol to take advantage of a past friendship. So Mary wouldn't have much trouble.

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#33  Edited By vinomonster

@mark_stephen: won't happen they're only 2 beings who so far done that... Flashpoint Diana and Spectre both out of team 2's league.. Team 2 doesn't have a chance look at the op it says bloodlusted..that's like saying Mary Marvel amp by Black Adam which Imo can solo Marvell and Carol. Mary with black Adam amp stomped Kyle Rayner, Donna Troy.. There's a scan which she is posses by a new God which she able to fight Diana and supes.. I can't post it now because I'm on my iPad its already 1130pm in my country so I won't bother opening my pc I will post it tomorrow.

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@agent41: Carol and Mar-Vell really stand no chance. Mar-Vell is slightly better than Carol due to his amps but they are still outclassed. Mary and Billy can both solo here.

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What is 'amps'?

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@agent41: Pre-52 captain atom was a cruel joke to the character he was butchered terribly. Anyways this battle could go one of two ways, either team 2 with mar-vell as MVP throwing planet busters right off the bat which nobody here has the durability to tank that amount of cosmic energy (not counting absorbing). Or team 1 who drags it out into a physical battle which even then wouldn't be too much of a stomp due to their durability, soloing on either sides is not happening however. Also I don't recall the OP saying they could use amps which is rather absurd btw.

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@cosmic_lantern: How? Billy and Mary traded blows with each other for 13 days without the slightest bit of being phase. Team 2 don't have that level of durability. Billy has stalemated Superman (who would snap both members of Team 2 necks before they see it coming). You do realize Billy and Mary become more powerful when seperated, right?

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DC MArvel Family wins this one..

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Mar-vell should beat Billy and Mary should stomp Carol

Mar-vell would beat Mary then.

Team 2 5.1/10

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Billy stomps Mar-vell

Mary stomps Carol

Kneel Before Zod

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Team 1. Shazam fought Spectre very well and bloodlusted Mary Marvel in Final Crisis was tough as hell. She almost owned Supergirl, Shazam and Black Adam together.

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Shazams win. Bloodlust + Wisdom of Solomon. Titans win.

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Anyone have that image of Mary Marvel in her black suit, standing all sexy? Her fine ass needs a good pounding. Mmm. And I think Ms. Marvel (Danvers) would enjoy doing that. Yeah, uh-huh.

Team Marvel wins, for me.

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Team 1 wins

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Team 1.

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Billy and Mary

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Batson's and Mary's power are cut in half if both of them are using the Wizard's power at once. The Marvel team should win.

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DC duo.