Captain America vs Wolverine Movie Versions

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#51  Edited By Shawnbaby

@karetaker said:

@darktiger: cap has never been in fights like wolvie has against hard opponents in drawn out difficult fights. he has not beaten anyone with sabertooth's lady deathstrikes wolverines or deadpools durability and killing power

he is only a better fighter if you compare him to the regular humans he fought. he was not as skilled h2h and mystique or lady deathstrike both people who wolverine fought

also there is nothing to say that caps shield bashing power is as it was in comics. he only fought people with human level durability anyone saying he can one shot wolvie is just speculating

he would have lost to iron man badly

i can fight the hulk......:)@Shawnbaby: @BloodsunX:

He had enough Strength to punch through a submarines Windshield....without his shield. That's some good Shield Bashing power right there. It doesn't have to be as good as it is in the comics...Wolverine isn't nearly as durable in the movies as he is in the comics either.

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#52  Edited By karetaker

@Shawnbaby: wolverine could do that too

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#53  Edited By Shawnbaby

@karetaker said:

@Shawnbaby: wolverine could do that too

Maybe. Only with the Adamantium though...Cap did it without Adamantium. Doesn't really matter though...you said that it was only speculation that Cap could knock out wolverine and that he didn't have any proven shield bashing strength...I've just proven that he does.

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#54  Edited By karetaker

@Shawnbaby: sabes could have done that too and blob.

that punch couldn't have knocked out wolverine either tho.

and this is assuming wolvie is just gnna stand there with his hands down as cap tries to bash his head in.

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#55  Edited By entropy_aegis

Cap wins and this has been done.

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#56  Edited By Shawnbaby

@karetaker said:

@Shawnbaby: sabes could have done that too and blob.

that punch couldn't have knocked out wolverine either tho.

and this is assuming wolvie is just gnna stand there with his hands down as cap tries to bash his head in.

If Cap has his shield and bashes wolverine that hard...it could most definitely knock out Wolverine...he was knocked out by less.

Sabretooth probably wouldn't have been able to do it. Blob doesn't really have any strength feats either. Blobs best feat was blocking a tank shot...but that has nothing to do with his strength...that's his power...nothing moves the blob...not even tank shells.

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#58  Edited By karetaker

@Shawnbaby: only if it hits him in the head.wolvi has more and better feats.

cap has almost no feats against superhuman opponents

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#59  Edited By jeanroygrant

Cap.

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#60  Edited By Shawnbaby

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@Shawnbaby: only if it hits him in the head.wolvi has more and better feats.

cap has almost no feats against superhuman opponents

Wolvie has more feats. Cap has better ones. Quality over Quantity.

Caps feats show an advantage in Strength, Speed, and Skill.

Wolverines best showings are durability....Cap would have a very hard time killing Wolverine...but knocking him out isn't very hard.

Most of the fights Wolverine won against anyone remotely impressive were more due to his healing factor than any actual skill.

He ends up winning against Deathstrike, sure...but she clearly had him beat in terms of skill, strength, and agility. Both of them land what should have been killing blows on each other without their healing factors to be fair...but she lands more of them and she lands them first.

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#61  Edited By karetaker

@Shawnbaby said:

@karetaker said:

@Shawnbaby: only if it hits him in the head.wolvi has more and better feats.

cap has almost no feats against superhuman opponents

Wolvie has more feats. Cap has better ones. Quality over Quantity.

Caps feats show an advantage in Strength, Speed, and Skill.

Wolverines best showings are durability....Cap would have a very hard time killing Wolverine...but knocking him out isn't very hard.

Most of the fights Wolverine won against anyone remotely impressive were more due to his healing factor than any actual skill.

He ends up winning against Deathstrike, sure...but she clearly had him beat in terms of skill, strength, and agility. Both of them land what should have been killing blows on each other without their healing factors to be fair...but she lands more of them and she lands them first.

looks alot to me like deathstrike would beat cap

but please tell me some of caps quality feats you speak of

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#62  Edited By BloodsunXL

Wolverine's Durablity is pathetic you ignore the fact he was knocked out by 2 bullets(which were made of adamantium), one shield toss to the head should knock down long enough to daze him.

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#63  Edited By Alexander505

Logan win.

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#64  Edited By MAZAHS117

Cap wins with his shield....w/o it Wolverine probably wins

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#65  Edited By Alexander505

Is just a shield not a Thor's hammer XD

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#66  Edited By MAZAHS117

We've seen Logan taken down by trauma blows to the head, twice by a bullet. Cap was shown to be able to display enough force to cut thru tank armor with his shield in his solo film.....I gotta believe that well place strike to Logans head would be enough to stun him giving Cap the advantage....Still debatable if Logans claws can cut Caps sheild (thanks to Wolverine being under FOX, we'll probably never know), but w/o it Cap probably gets cut to pieces.

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#67  Edited By Alexander505

You're right, but Logan can hit Cap with claws. Logan is much fast than Steve. It's very unlikely that Cap is able to parry all the blows of Logan with his shield.

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#68  Edited By frozen  Moderator
@Alexander505 said:

You're right, but Logan can hit Cap with claws. Logan is much fast than Steve. It's very unlikely that Cap is able to parry all the blows of Logan with his shield.

No. He isn't faster than the Movie Version.
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#69  Edited By Alexander505

@Frozen said:

@Alexander505 said:

You're right, but Logan can hit Cap with claws. Logan is much fast than Steve. It's very unlikely that Cap is able to parry all the blows of Logan with his shield.

No. He isn't faster than the Movie Version.

You're sure? Ok then.

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#70  Edited By frozen  Moderator

I've took the time to review Captain America's feats from The First Avenger and I think he's got this: 
 

  • Chases a speeding car
  • Easily vaults a very high fence
  • Jumps from car to car to reach that Nazi
  • Swims underwater, catches up to a submarine, and then punches through the glass of a pressurized submarine
  • Is easily able to punch a Boxing bag off (shown on Avengers, he has done this multiple times). This also demonstrated his hand-speed
  • Is able to hang onto a Nazi plane and fly it back into the Plane
  • Is able to fight off Red Skull
  • Shows incredible accuracy with his Shield against Hydra soldiers
   
I'm sure I've missed some. But his feats were more consistent, he was faster and more agile and his strength rivals Wolverine's. He was very accurate and well timed with his Shield, I think he has enough to win. He'd outclass Movie Logan. With his strength and speed, he can KO Wolverine using blows to the head with his Shield.
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#71  Edited By frozen  Moderator
@Alexander505 said:

@Frozen said:

@Alexander505 said:

You're right, but Logan can hit Cap with claws. Logan is much fast than Steve. It's very unlikely that Cap is able to parry all the blows of Logan with his shield.

No. He isn't faster than the Movie Version.

You're sure? Ok then.

Based on feats, Wolverine maybe has strength and has durability. But Cap has speed and agility.
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#72  Edited By Fetts
@BloodsunX said:

Wolverine's Durablity is pathetic you ignore the fact he was knocked out by 2 bullets(which were made of adamantium), one shield toss to the head should knock down long enough to daze him.

Two adamantium bullets going at roughly 650 mph>A shield slightly more durable than adamantium going 20 times slower than that. 
 
Just because vibranium is harder doesn't mean it'll apply as much force as it would a bullet. It wouldn't be going as nearly as fast.
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#74  Edited By nefarious

Been Done.

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#75  Edited By Nerd Of A Hero

Captain wins but it'll be a tough fight. With Wolverine Rage-like tactics being charging with his claw towards Cap, Cap will use his shield as cover, dodging, and then encounter attack when he see's an opening. With Wolverine's healing factor, durability and stamina this will take awhile which is why Cap has to knock out Wolverine quickly.

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#76  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

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Vibrinium Shield > Admantium Bullet

Not really. This is completely false. The shield doesn't travel at 800 meters per second. A bullet hits the noggin infinitely harder than the shield would.

That said, I don't know where folks were getting movie Wolverine having better hand to hand skills than movie Cap. Movie Logan was a brawler at best. Movie Cap definitely showed more finesse and 'skill' in his moves IMHO.