#1 Posted by KratosTheGod (26 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight

#2 Posted by BloodsunX (618 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say Ryu, but Cap has taken down stronger foes..

#3 Posted by ImmortalT1000 (3170 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America

#4 Posted by PsychoJack (174 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImmortalT1000 said:

Captain America

#5 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2633 posts) - - Show Bio

I gotta go with Cap, but he only wins after a pretty good fight

#6 Edited by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

Here we have Ryu dodging bullets like they are nothing.

Here we have Ryu dodging bullets like they are nothing. 1 Second to 8 seconds.

At 2min 27 seconds we see him deliver a blow that puts a massive hole in the grond.

At 2min and 10 seconds we see Ryu hit someone with so much power they simply evaporate

1min and 40 seconds in, he hits a blast so hard into a building it simply crumbles.

Here we have whats left of someone who tried to fight him. The pic to the right is him punching someone so hard in the belly his fists almost pop out the other end. (pic is of the guys back)

I will also dig up a video where He is jumping at least 25 feet in the air at ease.

#7 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16721 posts) - - Show Bio

@PsychoJack said:

@ImmortalT1000 said:

Captain America

dies..

Well.. see the videos above. Thanks @e3zombie:

#8 Edited by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

He we see him jumping from solid stone (he goes about 25-40 feet from the jump) the force it took to take him that high up smashed the stone as you can see.

@BloodsunX: @PsychoJack: @ImmortalT1000: @Smart_Dork_Dude:

I would love to see feats like this from cap please. :)

#9 Posted by Miki1111 (188 posts) - - Show Bio

Ryu would destroy whole America.

#10 Posted by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

@Miki1111: Yea a more fair fight would be a team.

Ryu vs Batman and Cap and maybe a few more.

#11 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio

@e3zombie: Cap can also dodge bullets. He literally sees faster than normal humans.

For all the energy Ryu can dish out, Cap can absorb it thanks to his shield. He can also strike with enough force to hurt characters with superhuman durability.

#12 Edited by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ferro Vida: Lets say the blast is 8 feet by 8 feet, does it all go into the shield or just the part where the shield was?

#13 Posted by iamthewolf88 (346 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always loved this fight. It is insanely close. Both of them have very impressive feats, my favorite being Ryu evaporating someone with a hadouken. But also dodging bullets, if he goes Dark Hadou, it's game over......... Cap has fought the Hulk, KO'd Rhino, fought Carnage. Jumped several stories and fought a bar full of Asgardian trolls. Cap only has one level, and that is peak human. Ryu can tap into some crazy power when he becomes evil Ryu.

#14 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio

@e3zombie said:

@Ferro Vida: Lets say the blast is 8 feet by 8 feet, does it all go into the shield or just the part where the shield was?

You posted a picture of a guy with a hole that was blown in his chest by Ryu. That is not an 8 foot by 8 foot hole. That is small enough that Cap could block it. If it was a bigger blast he could either crouch down behind his shield or simply dodge it.

#15 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio

@iamthewolf88 said:

fought a bar full of Asgardian trolls.

That story was hilarious.

#16 Posted by God_Spawn (37685 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ferro Vida: Quick, Ferro. Use this clearly unedited scan as back up.

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#17 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: LMAO This is why I missed you

#18 Posted by randomcharachter (323 posts) - - Show Bio

Ryu simply hold himself against Asura and stand still.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUB6jidsS5A

skip to 1:40 for action

#19 Posted by tg1982 (2715 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap wins. Ryu honestly dosen't have anything that Cap couldn't overcome.

#20 Posted by onilordasmodeus (2529 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap would murder Ryu.

#21 Posted by New_World_Order (13011 posts) - - Show Bio

If Ryu hits Cap with any of his uber moves, he one-shots Cap, and wins, but if Cap dodges, blocks, and strikes fast, he will win.

#22 Posted by darkelf35 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

ryuuuuuuuu

#23 Posted by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ferro Vida: Watch the videos the one that hit the building is like 10 feet.

#24 Posted by pea55 (291 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn said:

@Ferro Vida: Quick, Ferro. Use this clearly unedited scan as back up.

Nice!! lol 
 
 This would be a good fight!!!!!
#25 Posted by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

ryu destroys CA

#26 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (5515 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm a huge fan of the Street Fighter franchise and I am a bit bias, so while also a Cap supporter I will say that Ryu certainly has a better chance then most. Both are incredible fighters, and both are far faster and stronger then the norm. In a manga Ken tore the door off of a military vehicle. Ryu has kicked people through walls. Concrete and otherwise. Cap will hurt Ryu, and may have a chance if Ryu dosen't become possessed by the Dark Hadou. I say 10/10 Split. Cap has traded blows with some insane opponents.

#27 Posted by FourthDeity (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

Ryu wins.Almost in a stomp.

#28 Posted by BloodsunX (618 posts) - - Show Bio

How does Ryu win so easily? You guys underestimate Cap by a large margin. Canon Ryu is nowhere near the strongest character in the SF universe, and probably peak Human at best.

Ryu's strongest attack is the Metsu Shoryuken, an enhanced version of the Shoryuken, in which he taps into the dark energy of the Satsui No Hado. The force applied to the uppercut isnt even strong enough to burst through the Human Skull. So theres no way in hell he's getting through the shield. Someone with reflexes like Cap, should have no problem dodging Hadokens, and can easily be block it. The Tatsumaki kick leaves Ryu in a open position for attack, leaving him wide open to being knocked out.

Strength: Cap

Speed: Easily Cap

Durablity: Cap

Skill: Unsure probably Ryu

Reflexes: Easily Cap

Winner:

#29 Posted by onilordasmodeus (2529 posts) - - Show Bio

^^....This.

#30 Posted by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

Look at the feats I posted on the first page, cap is a dead man.

@BloodsunX: The reason he is not that powerful in the game is that everyone must be balanced or it would be a crappy game.

#31 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

IMO here are better feats of Cap dodging bullets. Also notice how up close he is dodging them.

#32 Posted by onilordasmodeus (2529 posts) - - Show Bio

@e3zombie said:

Look at the feats I posted on the first page, cap is a dead man.

@BloodsunX: The reason he is not that powerful in the game is that everyone must be balanced or it would be a crappy game.

The key words to the post above is "canon Ryu".

Ryu from the animes or comics is non-canon, but beyond that, he has a point that Ryu has never shown the ability to do many of the things Cap has done, or has the versatility that Cap has.

As good and skilled as Ryu may be, Cap is faster, stronger, and more experienced based off the fact that Cap has fought through multiple wars, and his body is at the peak potential of a what a human could achieve. Ryu has canonical showing of fighting Bison heads up through skill and determination, and beating charcters like Sagat with the help of the dark hadou, but outside of those intances, Ryu is lacking.

In a fight betweeen the 2, Cap would get in close, and knock Ryu out with minimal effort. Only if Ryu looses control could he hope to do cap damage, and even then, Cap has dealt with raging monsters as well.

#33 Posted by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

@onilordasmodeus: I would like to know why the movie that came with the game is non canon.

Aslo of course he cant do that in the game if he did no one would play as anyone else, all players must be balanced.

#34 Posted by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

MEH I showed you him when he is not in the game if you cant see the facts then im off.

#35 Posted by Bossmonster (2200 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: Sir you have changed my opinion. Cap stomps.

#36 Posted by ArtSkoll (12 posts) - - Show Bio

To make this fair.

Video Game Cap America vs Video Ryu. Tough one.

Comic Cap America vs Comic Ryu. Ryu stomps.

#37 Edited by onilordasmodeus (2529 posts) - - Show Bio

@e3zombie said:

@onilordasmodeus: I would like to know why the movie that came with the game is non canon.

Aslo of course he cant do that in the game if he did no one would play as anyone else, all players must be balanced.

To answer your question, I have no clue...but it isn't.

All the intros for SF4 and SSF4 are canon, but none of the endings are, and niether are any of the side movies that came out around the time of the game. From the official SF plot guide...

"THERE ARE NO ANIMES, MANGAS, MOVIES, COMIC BOOKS, OR GRAPHIC NOVELS THAT OFFICIALLY ARE PART OF THE CANON. Not anymore anyway. One exception to this was a short SF1 manga released by Capcom itself. It's been null and void since the Zero series was released. With the most recent additions to the saga from SF4 and SSF4, only the animated openings and endings qualify for seishi status at this point. Excluded are the four promotion trailers featuring Ryu, Chun-Li, Sakura, and C. Viper respectively, as well as the new anime Newly Become Bonds aka The Ties That Bind. SSF4's XBOX360-exclusive original animation featuring Juri is also currently excluded from seishi status."

http://fightingstreet.com/folders/variousinfofolder/variousinfopages/streetfighterplotguide.txt

2) As a lover of MK, I'm all for using character gameplay to make a point.

What I specifically mean by this is by breaking down a character's moveset, their gameplay, a means of qualifying a characters fighting ability can be made as you have a clear assessment of how that character fights.

In gameplay Ryu is open for attack after (if) a DP or hurricaine kick is whiffed as those are his big flashy attacks that he uses consistently. This assessment has little to do with overall balance of the game as that is just a breakdown of how the character fights in said game. Taking that into concideration though, and taking into concideration who he is fighting against, a case can be made for where an opponent can capitalize on a fighter's style.

Another thing though is that you have to take into concideration the character mentality, their canonical accomplishments, and their canonical fighting ability/skill. Nobody can say what Ryu would do in a given situation (i.e. that he would even use those moves) without first looking at what he has done in the past.

While Ryu is canonically a "good" fighter, the the potential to be amazing, proven by his encounters with Bison, Sagat, as well as a few other characters, Ryu also is a long way from being a complete/ "great" fighter as he has fallen apart in battle (iirc he's done so in just about every canonical fight) as he's fought against the dark Hadou within himself. SF3 is the only game where the DH has little/nothing to do with Ryu, but nothing in that game is concrete either.

In a fight with Cap, it is highly likely that Cap would be the one to control the fight, and that he would be the one to punish Ryu rather than it be the other way around.

Like I said in my previous post, unless Ryu looses control and "Evil Ryu" comes out, Ryu has very little chance of doing anything to Cap. Even then though, i don't see Cap loosing as "Evil Ryu" has done literally nothing.

#38 Edited by DeathGorath444 (866 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight ends like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8FpdQuycG

#39 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America gets stomped HARD.

#40 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4211 posts) - - Show Bio

Ryu wins handily.

#41 Edited by Chibi_cute (4516 posts) - - Show Bio

evil ryu owns.

#42 Posted by colliderz (1712 posts) - - Show Bio

Ryu wins