#1 Posted by Om4zd (929 posts) - - Show Bio

Battle takes place in Ozymandias' facility from Watchmen.

No outside help or gadgets. Cap has his shield.

Who wins and why?

#2 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20446 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America. He is a superhuman. Ozy was peak human. Oozy wins with prep though.

#3 Posted by justleader (1708 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: nope, ozymandias is more superhuman than cap since he caught a bullet which cap couldnt do.

so i give it to ozymandias

#4 Posted by Om4zd (929 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: Cap from the movies was peak human not super human.

#5 Posted by Bo88gdan (4673 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America 

#6 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio

Going to say Ozy here. Ozy was only supposed to be peak human but night owl, silk spectre, Rorc and even the comedian (punching holes in brick walls) were pulling off superhuman stunts in the movie and Ozy dominated them easily. In the movie Cap was still shown to be slightly superior to them physically but not by much, imo his fighting skills were lacking. I like the way he took charge at the end and enjoyed his character allot though.

#7 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

Tough battle. I'd say Ozy wins in pure H2H due to superior speed, but the shield might tip it in favor of Cap.

#8 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Captain America. He is a superhuman. Ozy was peak human. Oozy wins with prep though.

@Om4zd said:

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: Cap from the movies was peak human not super human.

Captain America performs on par with other "peak human" characters in both universes.

Street levelers dodge bullets and projectiles all the time. This is super human by our standards, peak by theirs.

#9 Posted by Dextersinister (6517 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Captain America. He is a superhuman. Ozy was peak human. Oozy wins with prep though.

@Om4zd said:

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: Cap from the movies was peak human not super human.

Captain America performs on par with other "peak human" characters in both universes.

Street levelers dodge bullets and projectiles all the time. This is super human by our standards, peak by theirs.

Where going by movie versions and movie Cap was never shown to have comic book agility but Ozy has to a certain degree.

#10 Posted by Mortein (3357 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain wins this 3/10 times lol

#11 Posted by SeanFoster (27 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't we see Captain America do a vertical leap of about 10 feet in The Avengers when he's sneaking around the SHIELD helicarrier? That seems pretty super human to me.

#12 Posted by BaBaBoom (267 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozy wins. Ozy is the smartest man in the watchmen universe while cap is a great leader he isn't as smart as Ozy. I'm not saying cap is stupid I'm just saying Ozy is smarter. Ozy can predict all of his moves before cap can even think of them and counter all of them with ease. If cap threw his shield at Ozy, there is a high chance of Ozy being able to catch it and use it to his advantage. Plus, I noticed from the movies that being peak human in the Watchmen movie is not similar to being peak-human in the Captain America movie. Ex. Rorschach being able to jump over rooftops even ones that are ridiculously far away from each other, Silk Spectre's and Nite Owl being able to break bones with their bare hands (even with lots of training that is hard thing to accomplish unless your opponent didn't drink enough milk growing up), and Ozy catching a bullet. So Ozymandias might as well be similar to Cap in terms of being peak-human and if that's the case Ozy wins.

#13 Posted by progenitor (7533 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America outmatched Ozy in feats, except for intelligence only. Cap went H2H against Loki with his staff, The Red Skull, the one great feat Ozy had was attempting to outsmart Dr. Manhattan, other than that he managed to beat up a retired Niteowl II and Rorschach, and killed a retired Comedian by throwing him through a window, a feat that probably could have been repeated by Red Skull or even Cap himself. On paper, Ozy should have been a great match against someone like Cap. The instance of Ozy catching a bullet has been brought up, but it's not as if we actually saw it happen, whereas we did see Cap fend off Mjolnir with his shield.

#14 Posted by krilling (2488 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap takes this. Beside super soldier serum the guy has more fighting spirit.

#15 Posted by The_Soverighn (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

OZY

#16 Posted by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America, no contest.

#17 Posted by Big_Nasty (349 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozzy wins only if he stick on move b/c if Cap grabs him, that's his life .

#18 Posted by AverageMan (138 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozymandias is more agile, better in h2h and much more intelligent than Captain America. Cap is a little bit more durable and stronger than Ozy. Cap has a slight advantage because he carries his shield but overall Ozy should win this fight.

#19 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (20300 posts) - - Show Bio

ozy is much faster. Durability could go to whose fan you are, and so are almost all other things. Intelligence... no need to state..

The fight hangs on the shield.. if ozy makes time for a small strategy, that's it for cap.

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#20 Posted by ThanoStomp (794 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap from the movie is a class above. He ran with cars, swam and caught up to a sub, then punched through the canopy. That's not an average car window glass. That's thick glass(or plastic) that can withstand the pressure of the ocean depths. He also pryed open the steel door on the Helicarrier. Those feats are up there with Cap's comic feats.

The catching bullet feat is damn good. But I interpreted that as a technique and timing thing. He's gloves protected his hand as well. Also, Cap in the comics has stated on panel that he can "see" bullets. That's why he dodges them so well. I don't see the movie Cap as being far off from the comic Cap.

#21 Posted by warlock360 (28064 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap can deflect the bullet with his shield, Ozy was prepared to catch the bullet so he already braced himself. (catching it unprepared is something entirely different)

#22 Posted by Hyperlight (6628 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapitolPunishment: I agree. Ozy wins.

I dont think punching a hole in a wall is superhuman. Most people cant do it but it doesnt mean that people are incapable of doing it

@PrinceAragorn1: i agree

#23 Posted by never give up (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

bump interesting battle. Captain America's shield will give Ozymandias trouble.

#24 Posted by BloodsunX (618 posts) - - Show Bio

Just rewatched Watchmen and got curious, I say Cap will win, 6/10.

#25 Posted by hulkbuster94 (646 posts) - - Show Bio

The Captain should win here i mean ozy may have the intelligence side on him with a good overall of strength and stuff but i would say it is gonna be pretty even although after seeing winter soldier i would take captain his feats were awesome lol

#26 Posted by Lunacyde (19523 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America should win this. More showings against better opponents utilizing more skill and equal if not better physicals. Add the shield and significantly better durability and i think it's case closed.