#1 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

cap wins here

#3 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap will win because he is simply a better fighter.

#4 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio

Post please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
#5 Posted by pooty (10734 posts) - - Show Bio
@spidey 15 said:
" Post please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D "
Why?
#6 Posted by Ferro Vida (34593 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap, but classic Kingpin would give him a Hell of a run for his money here.

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#7 Posted by mattbryce2000 (1162 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida:
Agreed, but without the shield, Kingpin would probably crush him.
#8 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida: 
so would current. he hasnt had any change in his stats, and even his recent battles have
been as good as they ever we're. 
Cap comes out ahead, but not by much. 

 
#9 Posted by Undergroundgod (2925 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap would win in a very good battle.
#10 Posted by drkhwk2001 (4433 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap wins.
#11 Posted by the darknessss (2750 posts) - - Show Bio

tons of broken bones,but caps takes out big baldy in the end because of fitness and fighting skills,even if he lost his shield.cap wins imo.
#12 Posted by moviegeek17 (1474 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap cause he's a freaking super soldier! I think he'd still win even without his his cause of his strength, fighting skills and endurance

#13 Posted by Maikel (374 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, the kingpin would definitely be stronger, But cap has tackled with the hulk and juggernaut, he'll probably manage to escape.

#14 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@pooty said:
" @spidey 15 said:
" Post please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D "
Why? "

Cause i want to see you're opinion! :-D
#15 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree that cap would win but it will be a difficult battle!
#16 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap is faster, way better tactically, way better skill wise AND stronger. Yes Cap even outclasses Kingpin in strength Kingpin (650lbs) Cap (800lbs). Kingpin is a badass and I really like him, but cap is too much for him in every category.

#17 Edited by Spidertheking (382 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America outclasses kingpin in every category. Strength, Speed, Fighting skills,Stamina. Captain America is just an all out better fighter plain, and simple. Kingpin is kick ass, but Captain America wins this one.
 
Captain America wins(8-2)

#18 Posted by Konnal (13 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap has amazing fighting skills and is an awesome strategist, I think he could pull it off, even if it takes a few bruises to get the job done.

#19 Posted by Vance Astro (91056 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valkaad said:
" Cap is faster, way better tactically, way better skill wise AND stronger. Yes Cap even outclasses Kingpin in strength Kingpin (650lbs) Cap (800lbs). Kingpin is a badass and I really like him, but cap is too much for him in every category. "
Those strength figures are wrong.
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#20 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @Valkaad said:
" Cap is faster, way better tactically, way better skill wise AND stronger. Yes Cap even outclasses Kingpin in strength Kingpin (650lbs) Cap (800lbs). Kingpin is a badass and I really like him, but cap is too much for him in every category. "
Those strength figures are wrong. "
isnt Cap around 1100 lbs or so... 
#21 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @Valkaad said:
" Cap is faster, way better tactically, way better skill wise AND stronger. Yes Cap even outclasses Kingpin in strength Kingpin (650lbs) Cap (800lbs). Kingpin is a badass and I really like him, but cap is too much for him in every category. "
Those strength figures are wrong. "
Just going by the only marvel universe that actually published strength levels for street level guys. But I guess the creators got it wrong. Why don't you tell us all what the strength figures are Stan Lee.
#22 Posted by Maikel (374 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, if that is true,  
 
I always figured the Kingpin to be insanely strong, his grotesque appearance should be disproportionate pure muscle according all the sources, from the first appearance in spider-man(Isn't spiderman stronger then cap?), where he gave spiderman a bear-hug and nearly broke him in half? Also in the animation series from the 90's you see kingpin braking out of a steel/titanium/whatever bandage (The cell next to him it kept the rino hostage) with one hand, while grabbing the Red Skull(Six forgotten warriors saga), and knocking over giant robots with little effort, whereas cap(who was fighting alongside him) had to use his shield to do any damage... 
 
Pound-for-pound Cap would be stronger, but the kingpin simply is another weightclass(or 7) higher.

#23 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Kingpin does not have superhuman strength (we are talking comic books not a cartoon). He is a normal (not superhuman) man. 

#24 Posted by jlavengerx77 (200 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap wins 
 
1 better fighter  
2 smarter 
3 faster 
 
He's even a little stronger
#25 Posted by Goenitz (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap wins here

#26 Posted by Surge2477 (1101 posts) - - Show Bio
@Maikel said:
"Well, the kingpin would definitely be stronger, But cap has tackled with the hulk and juggernaut, he'll probably manage to escape. "

@Maikel:
cap has lifted over 1,000 pounds. Kingpin's max is 650 lbs. kingpin has an advantage because he's more agile than his bulk would indicate. cap win this.
#27 Posted by pulamea (247 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE said:
@CATMANEXE said:
" @Ferro Vida: 
so would current. he hasnt had any change in his stats, and even his recent battles have
been as good as they ever we're. 
Cap comes out ahead, but not by much. 

  "

Ok thoose scans show cap losing the match badly and beiing saved by a red bird.Cap with a shiled might have a chance but without his shield kingpin would win.kingpin has taken on spiderman beaten daredevil, beating a punisher who was carrying two knifes, also beaten red skull in a h2h combat without breaking a sweat.,I see him taking this
#28 Posted by Ferro Vida (34593 posts) - - Show Bio
@pulamea: Kingpin has also lost to to Spider-man when Peter wasn't holding back, has lost to Daredevil more often then he has won, and bringing up Red Skull and Punisher doesn't prove anything because Cap has beaten the sh!t clean out of both of them.
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#29 Posted by grimlock (1571 posts) - - Show Bio

i believe in a straight h2h without shields and all kingpin would beat cap

#30 Posted by DetectiveQ (83 posts) - - Show Bio

Kingpin is a great character, but Fisk doesn't have the sheer cops to beat Cap. Captain America has taken far bigger, stronger and faster opponents out, and I honestly don't even see this going too long. Cap in an easy win.

#31 Posted by Surge2477 (1101 posts) - - Show Bio
@grimlock said:
"i believe in a straight h2h without shields and all kingpin would beat cap "

@grimlock:

not really. if they fight 100 battles. cap wins at least 95 of them. one must consider cap has more agility, strength, stamina, speed, & durability. Kingpin, while strong, will eventually tire from battling a faster, stronger, better opponent. those scans prove nothing other than the inconsisency of marvel. Cap is losing to kingpin, yet beats a the crap of out John Walker (US Agent), who was not only intesenly trained by the Taskmaster, but could also lift 10 tons. he couldn't beat cap, & he was cap's replacement. Cap wins this with some effort used.
#32 Posted by rbysjti (10690 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap'n will win

#33 Posted by pulamea (247 posts) - - Show Bio
@Surge2477 said:
" @grimlock said:
"i believe in a straight h2h without shields and all kingpin would beat cap "
@grimlock: not really. if they fight 100 battles. cap wins at least 95 of them. one must consider cap has more agility, strength, stamina, speed, & durability. Kingpin, while strong, will eventually tire from battling a faster, stronger, better opponent. those scans prove nothing other than the inconsisency of marvel. Cap is losing to kingpin, yet beats a the crap of out John Walker (US Agent), who was not only intesenly trained by the Taskmaster, but could also lift 10 tons. he couldn't beat cap, & he was cap's replacement. Cap wins this with some effort used. "
how...the only time they fought kingpin wasabout to kill cap if it wasnt for a stupid red bird.and cap had his shield.and what can captain america's agility do against a man who rtagged spiderman, daredevil and many others
#34 Posted by Surge2477 (1101 posts) - - Show Bio
@pulamea said:
how...the only time they fought kingpin wasabout to kill cap if it wasnt for a stupid red bird.and cap had his shield.and what can captain america's agility do against a man who rtagged spiderman, daredevil and many others"

@pulamea:
 really? do you think that spider-man punching kingpin as hard as he can (over 20,000 pounds of force) wouldn't turn kingpin into a puddle of blood. spider-man is often written to hold back his punches vs. non superpowered being in fear of killing them. Cap's max lift limit is 1,100 pounds. Kingpin is around 650 pounds. that scans proves that marvel is inconsisent. cap has taken down opponents way more powerful than Fisk. He can simply evade the kingpin & snap his neck. Spider-Man has beaten an Iron Man from the Future to a pulp. He Has dodged multiple shots of gunfire  from several angels at once. Cap has also dodged gunfire to.  there are scans of batman besting superman. do you really believe that if superman & batman were in a fight to the death (with no prep for batman) that he would win simply because a scan exists with him getting upper hand for a moment? We ought to use more common sense & realize that scans can mean something & nothing at the same time. I'll wait for your reply. Oh by te way. Cap still wins this battle.
#35 Posted by pulamea (247 posts) - - Show Bio
@Surge2477 said:
" @pulamea said:
how...the only time they fought kingpin wasabout to kill cap if it wasnt for a stupid red bird.and cap had his shield.and what can captain america's agility do against a man who rtagged spiderman, daredevil and many others"

@pulamea:
 really? do you think that spider-man punching kingpin as hard as he can (over 20,000 pounds of force) wouldn't turn kingpin into a puddle of blood. spider-man is often written to hold back his punches vs. non superpowered being in fear of killing them. Cap's max lift limit is 1,100 pounds. Kingpin is around 650 pounds. that scans proves that marvel is inconsisent. cap has taken down opponents way more powerful than Fisk. He can simply evade the kingpin & snap his neck. Spider-Man has beaten an Iron Man from the Future to a pulp. He Has dodged multiple shots of gunfire  from several angels at once. Cap has also dodged gunfire to.  there are scans of batman besting superman. do you really believe that if superman & batman were in a fight to the death (with no prep for batman) that he would win simply because a scan exists with him getting upper hand for a moment? We ought to use more common sense & realize that scans can mean something & nothing at the same time. I'll wait for your reply. Oh by te way. Cap still wins this battle. "
Ok kingpin surviving that fight with spiderman is PIS but I do not thing that kingpin beating cap would be PIS to.That is possible
#36 Posted by Surge2477 (1101 posts) - - Show Bio
@pulamea said:
 "Ok kingpin surviving that fight with spiderman is PIS but I do not thing that kingpin beating cap would be PIS to.That is possible"

@pulamea:

No doubt. Not saying it's not impossible. just i would give the battle to cap more often then not.