captain america vs batman

cap

Yea, but Batman isn't that pathetic/dumb.

Batman wins.  Batman is clearly peak human as well - master strategist, knows every combat style (master level), technological genius, etc.  Cap, while excelling in H2H combat (SS serum obviously accounts for something), he has nowhere near the intellect Batman does.  At best, he is a marginally better fighter, but EVERYTHING else Batman has available to him gives him a clear edge. Heat seeking, exploding battarangs anyone?

batman would win come on a shield against a guy who is highly train in many weapon form bat would take him if push come to shove there is enough in that belt of his to take cap down for victory

batman would win come on a shield against a guy who is highly train in many weapon form bat would take him if push come to shove there is enough in that belt of his to take cap down for victory

" Yea, but Batman isn't that pathetic/dumb.Batman wins.  Batman is clearly peak human as well - master strategist, knows every combat style (master level), technological genius, etc.  Cap, while excelling in H2H combat (SS serum obviously accounts for something), he has nowhere near the intellect Batman does.  At best, he is a marginally better fighter, but EVERYTHING else Batman has available to him gives him a clear edge. Heat seeking, exploding battarangs anyone? "

Since the time of the thread was made  almost 4 years ago, i still think Cap can pull a slight majority, however current Bruce would win.

" @god_spawn: He knows every style. "

" @god_spawn: I'll try to find some scans and post them after a while. "

IDK.... good fight. It's kinda 50/50. I favor Batman but Cap is the strongest human

I believe Batman has won.

This is ridiculous, Batman would obviously win. It would be close but Batman is smarter, better trained, and better prepared. I hate all these comments saying that Cap would absolutely destroy Batman physically. Cap is NOT superhuman, he is in peak HUMAN condition, just like Batman. Of course Cap is probably a little bit stronger but still Batman is right up there. In the end it comes down to whos fighting style is better and Batman wins in that regard.

Heck even if Batman is losing badly physically its not like he will just stick around. He would use a smoke pellet, get away, and take Cap down with stealth.

" @Fetts:  Looks fake "

" This is ridiculous, Batman would obviously win. It would be close but Batman is smarter, better trained, and better prepared. I hate all these comments saying that Cap would absolutely destroy Batman physically. Cap is NOT superhuman, he is in peak HUMAN condition, just like Batman. Of course Cap is probably a little bit stronger but still Batman is right up there. In the end it comes down to whos fighting style is better and Batman wins in that regard. Heck even if Batman is losing badly physically its not like he will just stick around. He would use a smoke pellet, get away, and take Cap down with stealth. "

Does Batman have his gadgets? If so I'll give the edge to him unless Cap's serum protects him from tear gas. If It's straight H2H I think Cap wins for sure.

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Captain America.

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Batman .Captain America cant do nothing against Batman's gadgets.Even in H2H,they are close.

cap stomps

I think bats would win just because of his superior fighting skills and more experience.

Unless Bats has prep time, I'll assume Bruce has standard equipment. So intelligence won't play much of a factor in this ... At least not in the heat of combat. Tactics and combat experience are what will matter.  Cap not only has the greatest defensive weapon in Marvel, but as an offensive weapon - he can hurl it with enough force to tear through the engine casing of the front of a semi-truck and exit the other side of the trailer.  What are batarangs and grappling guns going to do against a guy that can avoid the projectiles of being surrounded by dozens and dozens of HYDRA or even S.H.I.E.L.D. soldiers firing automatic weapons at him?  Gas pellets are absolutely useless if this fight takes place outdoors. All he would need to do is perform the great feat of "moving somewhere else."     For those that think Batman is the better fighter in H2H, I disagree. I see them basically as equals. Both are perhaps two of the greatest fighters in their respective Universe and the ultimate human fighting machines.Batman's watered down knowledge of hundreds of martial arts isn't going to give him any advantage. It would take a lifetime to become a "master" of simply a handful of fighting forms.  Considering that most martial arts have been absorbed into one another over time, borrowed from, and refined into some of the more common and most effective fighting forms ... the rest is just excess dead weight. Steve should have no problem being able to match Bruce in skill. Cap wins this. We are talking about two characters that are equals in skill and yet Cap has an edge in strength due to the super soldier serum.  He actually has explained his ability to dodge multiple bullet rounds because he "sees" faster than an ordinary human. Fact is ... Cap is physically superior.

with prep bats for the win.

Batman

Captain America doesn't have any physical advantage but for stamina
 
Batman is peek human the difference is he made himself that way withou needing a syrum
 
practices like not consuming alcohol or anything that will have any effect on his physical peek

                    @MzombieX said:

                    Unless Bats has prep time, I'll assume Bruce has standard equipment. So intelligence won't play much of a factor in this ... At least not in the heat of combat. Tactics and combat experience are what will matter.  Cap not only has the greatest defensive weapon in Marvel, but as an offensive weapon - he can hurl it with enough force to tear through the engine casing of the front of a semi-truck and exit the other side of the trailer.  What are batarangs and grappling guns going to do against a guy that can avoid the projectiles of being surrounded by dozens and dozens of HYDRA or even S.H.I.E.L.D. soldiers firing automatic weapons at him?  Gas pellets are absolutely useless if this fight takes place outdoors. All he would need to do is perform the great feat of "moving somewhere else."     For those that think Batman is the better fighter in H2H, I disagree. I see them basically as equals. Both are perhaps two of the greatest fighters in their respective Universe and the ultimate human fighting machines.Batman's watered down knowledge of hundreds of martial arts isn't going to give him any advantage. It would take a lifetime to become a "master" of simply a handful of fighting forms.  Considering that most martial arts have been absorbed into one another over time, borrowed from, and refined into some of the more common and most effective fighting forms ... the rest is just excess dead weight. Steve should have no problem being able to match Bruce in skill. Cap wins this. We are talking about two characters that are equals in skill and yet Cap has an edge in strength due to the super soldier serum.  He actually has explained his ability to dodge multiple bullet rounds because he "sees" faster than an ordinary human. Fact is ... Cap is physically superior.

                   

               

Yes unfortunately modern day martial arts has become mixed martial arts which is basically boxing and wrestling. And we call the UFC mixed martial arts? Its really nothing more than a bunch of cavemen who do nothing all day but train and punch and choke each other. Thats not martial arts.  Oh and yes Captain America(Steve Rogers) takes this on a random encounter. His physical advantages tip the odds in his favor, even if batman may be slightly more skilled as a fighter the difference is so minute that it doesn't overcome Cap's physical advantage.

                   

               

Unless Bats has prep time, I'll assume Bruce has standard equipment. So intelligence won't play much of a factor in this ... At least not in the heat of combat. Tactics and combat experience are what will matter.  

@MzombieX

Gas pellets are absolutely useless if this fight takes place outdoors.

@MzombieX

  For those that think Batman is the better fighter in H2H, I disagree. I see them basically as equals. Both are perhaps two of the greatest fighters in their respective Universe and the ultimate human fighting machines..

@MzombieX

Batman's watered down knowledge of hundreds of martial arts isn't going to give him any advantage. It would take a lifetime to become a "master" of simply a handful of fighting forms.  Considering that most martial arts have been absorbed into one another over time, borrowed from, and refined into some of the more common and most effective fighting forms ... the rest is just excess dead weight.

@MzombieX

 
Cap wins this. We are talking about two characters that are equals in skill and yet Cap has an edge in strength due to the super soldier serum.  
He actually has explained his ability to dodge multiple bullet rounds because he "sees" faster than an ordinary human. Fact is ... Cap is physically superior.

                    Captain America doesn't have any physical advantage but for stamina  Batman is peek human the difference is he made himself that way withou needing a syrum  practices like not consuming alcohol or anything that will have any effect on his physical peek

                   

               

@Cosmic_Falcon: Where you make a strong argument for Batman, I disagree with a few points you made... but one really stands out... that Batman is a genius in the heat of battle but Cap is not.  This is just not true. Cap is one of the most skilled and notorious combat commanders/leaders in Marvel. Bar none. And he just so happens to excel in the 'heat of battle' as it were. He is not the inventor/scientist Bruce is. He is not the master of the almighty 'prep' that Bruce is (damn you Miller for making the word prep mean more than it should!), but he is the better battle tactician in my books.

Aside from this,CA is the superior physical specimen (show pics of Batman pressing well over 1000 lbs repeatedly then we'll talk), has better defense (read: shield) and offensive weapon (read: shield) and due to the super soldier serum, is probably the better hand to hander or, at the very least, Bruce's equal (the serum allows him to absorb combat techniques at a far accelerrated pace than a normal human).  One hit from the shield and Batman should go nighty night. I know Wolverine did (adamantium skeleton, healing factor and all). That shield has wrecked fighter jets. Captain America wins a (slight) majority over Batman in my opinion.

@lantian1 said:

                    Captain America doesn't have any physical advantage but for stamina  Batman is peek human the difference is he made himself that way withou needing a syrum  practices like not consuming alcohol or anything that will have any effect on his physical peek

                   

               

Like I said above, post pics of Batman bench pressing 1000+ lbs repeatedly then we'll talk about who's the better physical specimen. CA is an enhanced human. Bruce is a peak human. If we go by their respective definitions, a peak human can bench press (max) 2x his own body weight. That's roughly 400lbs for Bruce (despite PIS feats here and there showing him lifting what only superhumans can or should). An enhanced human is 800 lbs + CA is the superior physical specimen.

                    @Super_SoldierXII said:

@lantian1 said:

                    Captain America doesn't have any physical advantage but for stamina  Batman is peek human the difference is he made himself that way withou needing a syrum  practices like not consuming alcohol or anything that will have any effect on his physical peek

                   

               

Like I said above, post pics of Batman bench pressing 1000+ lbs repeatedly then we'll talk about who's the better physical specimen. CA is an enhanced human. Bruce is a peak human. If we go by their respective definitions, a peak human can bench press (max) 2x his own body weight. That's roughly 400lbs for Bruce (despite PIS feats here and there showing him lifting what only superhumans can or should). An enhanced human is 800 lbs + CA is the superior physical specimen.

                   

               

A peak human in Marvel is someone who can bench around 800-1000 lbs.  Someone who can bench 2x there body weight is Olympic level.   Batman regularly benches 1000lb for his morning workout.  He isn't as strong as Cap but he's above what Marvel considers peak human.  You need to remember that Batman is a DC character and there standards are different then Marvels. 

                   

               

                    @Susanoo:   I too think Cap wins, but with one shield throw?  Im sure batman has been hit harder.

                   

               

Not even close.And as to your pics, I think focusing on low end feats proves nothing. (And then, CA SHOULD lose to Iron Fist, Iron Fist would absolutely destroy Batman and Wolverine as well. So there's no shame in that.) There are a plethora of combat feats for CA that are absolutely extraordinary. (Feats showing him holding his breath long enough to escape gas etc. etc.) I am heading out the door now, but I'll come back later and post them for you viewing pleasure. Ciao for now!

@TheCerealKillz said:

                    @Susanoo:   I too think Cap wins, but with one shield throw?  Im sure batman has been hit harder.

                   

               

I meant in a boomerang type of style throw. Hitting Batman from behind.

@TheCerealKillz said:

                    @Susanoo:   I too think Cap wins, but with one shield throw?  Im sure batman has been hit harder.

                   

               

I meant in a boomerang type of style throw. Hitting Batman from behind.