Captain America (movie version) vs Achilles

-Morals OFF for both opponents 
-fight takes place in gladiator arena  
-No prep
- Cap gets his shield 
- Achilles gets an Adamantium sword 
-fight til death or k.o 
-who wins?? 
 

I'm giving it to Cap.  I don't know how or when he learned to fight in the movie after he transformed, but he was able to fight and I'm seeing a current (or 70 years old) fighting style being more effective then that they had back in Achille's time. The movie Cap is a more then a peak human, so he would be faster and stronger then Achilles. Faster reflexes and so on. He should be able to knock Achilles with one direct hit out.

Achilles.

This is how I see it happening. Only the guy throws a shield instead of a spear.
 
  

I'll give it to Steve, his enhancements would be too much for Achilles to deal with.

Wasn't Achilles practically invincible? His only weak spot was his heel?

Wasn't Achilles practically invincible? His only weak spot was his heel?

Wasn't Achilles practically invincible? His only weak spot was his heel?

Wasn't Achilles practically invincible? His only weak spot was his heel?

@CitizenBane said:

Wasn't Achilles practically invincible? His only weak spot was his heel?

That's the mythology, in the movie they basically tried making it more "realistic," however, they never implied that Achilles was actually a normal human, and the only way Achilles died was after Paris shot him in the ankle, just like the myth.

@progenitor said:

@CitizenBane said:

Wasn't Achilles practically invincible? His only weak spot was his heel?

That's the mythology, in the movie they basically tried making it more "realistic," however, they never implied that Achilles was actually a normal human, and the only way Achilles died was after Paris shot him in the ankle, just like the myth.

Yeah, and when they found his body he had ripped out all the arrows except the one in his heel, echoing the legend that it was his only weak spot.

This is how I see it happening. Only the guy throws a shield instead of a spear.
 
  

@progenitor said:

  Basically, it comes down to skill vs. physicality, and I think that Achilles is fast enough to hold his own--and defeat movie Cap.

Then it's the same like the Deathstroke vs Taskmaster thread in here, where noone sees Taskmaster winning, even though he is more skilled thanks to his power then Deathstroke. Deathstroke is still ending as the winner for the most of the people, because he has stronger physical stats :-X Taskmaster = Achilles Deatstroke = Captain America  However, the Achilles in the movie wasn't invincible. He was just a skilled human, there was nothing mystical about the movie. He would lose against the movie Cap.

@progenitor said:

  Basically, it comes down to skill vs. physicality, and I think that Achilles is fast enough to hold his own--and defeat movie Cap.

Then it's the same like the Deathstroke vs Taskmaster thread in here, where noone sees Taskmaster winning, even though he is more skilled thanks to his power then Deathstroke. Deathstroke is still ending as the winner for the most of the people, because he has stronger physical stats :-X Taskmaster = Achilles Deatstroke = Captain America  However, the Achilles in the movie wasn't invincible. He was just a skilled human, there was nothing mystical about the movie. He would lose against the movie Cap.

they did show a little mysticism towards achilles in the movie. For example he threw a spear and hit a guy in the heart about a 1/2  a mile away. Hector threw one back but it wasnt as fast as achilles so he dodged it. 
 
Pretty hard comparing Greek Mysticism With German-American Science.

@progenitor said:

I'm a huge fan of Cap, but I just don't see him being able to handle Achilles' offense when it was shown as being practically impenetrable.

Let me quote Achilles himself.  Young boy: "They say you can't be killed..." Achilles: "Then I wouldn't be bothering with the shield, would I?"   1-2 hits and Achilles is down and Cap is superior enough to do that.

@progenitor said:

If Cap can even reach Achilles with the shield, Hector certainly wasn't able to, and Achilles is also considered to be a one-man army, as shown on the beach scene on the first page.

Hector is not Captain America and neither is the movie Achilles.
You can also start a new thread, where you can try to discuss the fight between HYDRA soldiers and the guys with the shields and short-swords from Troy. U c wut I did thar?

um cap he took out several hydra agents who had superior tech and he learned his h2h and other skills at the missions they fastforward i guess.
i mean didn't you guys saw him taking over that little plain and stuff he could bounce the shield from a tree, wall and then hit achilles in the back he would be NOT be expecting that.

cap defeats achilles

Achilles.

Movie Captain America would wreck movie Achilles.

Achilles puts Cap on time out

Cap slaughter stomps effortlessly. 10/10

Does anyone have a interview with the Troy directors... Is Achilles really supposed to be a demigod in this movie? Or was he just really good? Or was it just not explained for us to argue about>

Achilles due to better skill.

Technically speaking according to the myths isn't Achilles invulnerable except for his heel? Therefore Cap wouldn't be able to touch him unless he got him there...but that's just from the actual mythology not sure if the movie holds that

Achillies Wins, Skill level too high.

Captain America punches his head in

love both but cap has an edge

It depends on which version of Achilles we're using here.

Movie version loses.

Illiad version wins.

Achilles was very skilled, not invulnerable.

Cap destroys him.

Brad Achilles is so overrated.

Cap wins

historic achilles wreck him,while movie one can either way

Either way? Don't make me laugh, at this stage the difference between them is huge. Cap knocks his head clean off.