#1 Posted by Silverrings (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America, film version

vs

Angel, from the Buffy franchise

- They are both unarmed

- Fight takes place in Times Square

- There is an hour until sunrise

- In character

- Win by death or KO

Opinions?

#2 Posted by theONEtaichou (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

Angel curbstomps CA.

good day

#3 Posted by Silverrings (1502 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by theONEtaichou (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@silverrings: coz he is faster (feats), stronger (feats) and such over movie CA = curbstomp!

good day

#5 Edited by Funsiized (3150 posts) - - Show Bio

Angel probably.

#6 Posted by Silverrings (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

@funsiized said:

Angel probably.

Care to state why?

#7 Posted by Funsiized (3150 posts) - - Show Bio

@silverrings: Cap is peak human potential. Angel is superhuman.

#8 Edited by Silverrings (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

@funsiized said:

@silverrings: Cap is peak human potential. Angel is superhuman.

In-universe, yes, but Cap is quite clearly superhuman, in comparison to real humans. Cap does things Angel hasn't done.

#9 Posted by kgb725 (3401 posts) - - Show Bio

This would be more interesting if it was Angelus

#10 Edited by Funsiized (3150 posts) - - Show Bio

@silverrings: Yes, but those are things Angel can replicate, if not with ease.

Angel has ot many advantages here

  • unarmed combat: Cap from the movies is a hoss, but nothing on angels sum 400 years of experience IIRC
  • In Character: Cap tries not to kill, Angel has no problem
  • Angel is faster. Much faster, Stronger(Normal vampires bend steel or iron easily) etc, overall better stats save mayeb agility, and that's arguable.
#11 Edited by Silverrings (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

@funsiized said:

@silverrings: Yes, but those are things Angel can replicate, if not with ease.

Angel has ot many advantages here

  • unarmed combat: Cap from the movies is a hoss, but nothing on angels sum 400 years of experience IIRC
  • In Character: Cap tries not to kill, Angel has no problem
  • Angel is faster. Much faster, Stronger(Normal vampires bend steel or iron easily) etc, overall better stats save mayeb agility, and that's arguable.

I think Angel is more skilled, too, and he's probably tougher, due to his healing factor, but Cap takes a lot of punishment and keeps on going, so durability is pretty even, i'd say. So is strength, but speed goes to Angel. Angel isn't ok with killing humans, he avoids it if possible, but they are both pretty ruthless, even if they don't like using lethal force. The jumps and acrobatics that Cap performs are way above what Angel can do, making Cap more agile, for sure. Angel has been hurt with a metal pole before, in his fight with Spike, and, more relevantly, Cap's shield is nigh-unreakable.

@kgb725 How would that affect the outcome in your eyes?

#12 Edited by Funsiized (3150 posts) - - Show Bio

@silverrings:

I think Angel is more skilled, too, and he's probably tougher, due to his healing factor, but Cap takes a lot of punishment and keeps on going, so durability is pretty even,

Err, Stab angel, HF Saves him. Stab Cap...dudes seriously boned.

So is strength

How in the world...?!

Angel isn't ok with killing humans, he avoids it if possible, but they are both pretty ruthless, even if they don't like using lethal force

Comic and TV Series Angel has shown Zero remorse when eliminating his enemy. Human or otherwise.

The jumps and acrobatics that Cap performs are way above what Angel can do, making Cap more agile, for sure

Err. what? What angel CAN do? We don't know what he can do considering he never makes an effort to. and it's not a big advantage anyways. Angel was fighting Buffy fine, and she is God in that department.

Angel has been hurt with a metal pole before, in his fight with Spike,

difference is spike had the physical capability to do that. Cap not so much.

Cap's shield is nigh-unreakable.

Did you forget your own rules!?! LOL.

- They are both unarmed

#13 Posted by kgb725 (3401 posts) - - Show Bio

@silverrings: Angelus would try and kill him and is much more brutal amd if he had the Chance he might sire him

#14 Posted by those_eyes (2677 posts) - - Show Bio

Angel has dealt with far deadly opponents.

#15 Posted by Immortal777 (5866 posts) - - Show Bio

Angel stomps he has far far more feats to go on than Cap.

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#16 Posted by Andy Steven Summers (4987 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie Cap loses, but comic version wins.

#17 Posted by Amaranth (8052 posts) - - Show Bio

Angel. Movie Captain America only has a little bit of screen time to draw feats from while Angel has several seasons of Buffy and five seasons of his own show to develop feats. Maybe things would be more even if Captain America had an equal amount of screen time but as is Angel is superior in every category besides striking speed.

#18 Posted by Noone301994 (2442 posts) - - Show Bio

#19 Posted by UNKNOWNUSER101 (336 posts) - - Show Bio

Out of curiosity, what strength feats does angel have to put him above movie cap

#20 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

Angel Cap.

#21 Posted by eternityx (2083 posts) - - Show Bio

CA wins imo.

#22 Posted by Rouflex (12514 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Edited by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#24 Posted by Rouflex (12514 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Posted by UNKNOWNUSER101 (336 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

@silverrings: Yes, but those are things Angel can replicate, if not with ease.

Angel has ot many advantages here

  • unarmed combat: Cap from the movies is a hoss, but nothing on angels sum 400 years of experience IIRC
  • In Character: Cap tries not to kill, Angel has no problem
  • Angel is faster. Much faster, Stronger(Normal vampires bend steel or iron easily) etc, overall better stats save mayeb agility, and that's arguable.

These reasons^^^^

#28 Posted by buttersdaman000 (8763 posts) - - Show Bio

Angel vandalizes that @ss

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#29 Edited by UNKNOWNUSER101 (336 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque: anything to back him being stronger faster and having better stats

#30 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

@unknownuser101: those scans that Noone posted didn't do it for you huh? I'll post some stuff when I get back to tha crib.

#31 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#32 Posted by those_eyes (2677 posts) - - Show Bio
#33 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#34 Posted by UNKNOWNUSER101 (336 posts) - - Show Bio

@those_eyes: @carter_esque: fast and perhaps more durable, but none of them showed him being stronger than cap, and I think strength will be very important here

#35 Posted by Bezza (2114 posts) - - Show Bio

What, no shield? Angel wins

#36 Posted by those_eyes (2677 posts) - - Show Bio

Without shield angel slightly stomps!!!!!!!!

#37 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Edited by UNKNOWNUSER101 (336 posts) - - Show Bio
#39 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque: that didn't explain if he was stronger

Quite honestly, he's probably about on par w/ Cap in the strength department. There were several instances throughout the series where Angel would throw demons, humans, and other vampires across rooms with relative ease. However, I could see Cap possessing the strength to do the same if he were in those situations, I'd say they're pretty evenly matched in strength.

#40 Edited by UNKNOWNUSER101 (336 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque: alright, can't wait to see the winter soldier though,very excited, after that we would have a better understanding of who this match falls to

#41 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

@unknownuser101: True. I might change my vote as well depending on his feats in The sequel.