captain america (bucky) vs daredevil

Why does everyone believes that bucky wins... easy?
I'm pretty sure it won't be easy....=]

" Why does everyone believes that bucky wins... easy? I'm pretty sure it won't be easy....=] "

" @The Man Without Fear said:

I think there are many characters who can beat Daredevil, but Bucky isn't one of them. If something that sounds "fanboyish" makes you "sick to your stomach" then you're being oversensitive. "

Your opinion on the fight itself isn't the problem.Making a statement that suggest you will not listen to reason is the problem.I'm not being oversensitive.Someone who is unwilling to admit their favorite character can take an L is fanboyish and pointless. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @The Man Without Fear said:

I think there are many characters who can beat Daredevil, but Bucky isn't one of them. If something that sounds "fanboyish" makes you "sick to your stomach" then you're being oversensitive. "

Your opinion on the fight itself isn't the problem.Making a statement that suggest you will not listen to reason is the problem.I'm not being oversensitive.Someone who is unwilling to admit their favorite character can take an L is fanboyish and pointless. "

I've said 2 time now that there are many characters who can defeat Daredevil, and if you think another human being is "pointless" over a debate about fictional characters, then you're really messed up in the head. "

" @Vance Astro: Still....2 pp believing that bucky wins easy sounds big number to me...lol...=] "

" @Vance Astro: Then I apologize for saying you're messed up in the head, I misunderstood what you meant. "

" @Man Without Fear: Yeah....but this won't be easy even if Bucky has amazing defense and equipments....=] "

" IMO cap is just overall better than daredevil.  daredevil gets his a$$ beat by bullseye(h2h and with guns) all the time, no he doesnt lose but he always gets knocked to his knee's or beat bloodly on the ground before something distracts bullseye or daredevil gets the upper hand.  while cap has tanked shots from iron man, which btw iron man admitted would put down any other man  also both daredevil and cap are bullet timer so there really isnt any speed difference here.  daredevil has the best sonar.....how is that going to help him here out of curiousity? i know he can predict caps moves, however cap has better fighting skills so i dont see how he can out man him H2H   "

" @spidey 15 said:

" @Man Without Fear: Yeah....but this won't be easy even if Bucky has amazing defense and equipments....=] "

It won't be easy for either of them any way you cut it. "

" @Vance Astro: I understand what you're saying by "pointless" now. To enter a debate and not have an open mind in the first place is pointless and being fanboyish. Ok, I get that. My bad.     "

" @Vance Astro: I didn't realize how some of my comments or jokers were coming across as offensive to people, or why people were insulting me. Thanks for the help.     "

"@FLCL1 said:

" IMO cap is just overall better than daredevil.  daredevil gets his a$$ beat by bullseye(h2h and with guns) all the time, no he doesnt lose but he always gets knocked to his knee's or beat bloodly on the ground before something distracts bullseye or daredevil gets the upper hand.  while cap has tanked shots from iron man, which btw iron man admitted would put down any other man  also both daredevil and cap are bullet timer so there really isnt any speed difference here.  daredevil has the best sonar.....how is that going to help him here out of curiousity? i know he can predict caps moves, however cap has better fighting skills so i dont see how he can out man him H2H   "

Why are you sitting her making up stuff? Daredevil does not get his ass beat by Bullseye all the time.In fact the only times he's actually lost to Bullseye is when Bullseye had prep time.Most of those defeats were attributed to the weapons Bullseye had or some other variables.Trust me DD has beaten Bullseye way more than the other way around.He even makes a note of it when he KO's Lady Bullseye.I've seen Daredevil beat the hell out of Bullseye without much trouble on different occasions.Anyway, Bucky isn't as good a shot as Bulleye and Bulleye isn't as good as DD h2h which he personally knows. Why you are using tanking shots from Iron Man is beyond me.Humans can knock out Cap.Bucky's durability isn't even peak human and Rogers has been knocked out by humans.Daredevil's radar sense helps in all of his fights.It increases is awareness and reaction time causing him to be able to get off and avoid more hits.Also Cap as in Bucky is not a better fighter than Daredevil.  "

dude i stated "no he doesnt lose" (look above). please dont put words in my mouth   i know DD beat bullseye more, i never said bullseye wins i said he beats the crap out of him.  i never stated anything about "aim" and i never stated bullseyes h2h is better than DD, where are you getting this from?   cap isnt herc cap can be knocked out (i never said he couldnt be) im simply stating that cap can take way more punishment then DD and i stated the iron man fight as an example. in the civil war issue iron man was beating the living hell out of captain america and stated that a NORMAL man would be K.O. by now before herc busted in. also let me state that iron man hit him so hard that his jaw was hardly on, and cap still had the power to stand up with his shield,   i already stated that about his radar sense (i know that it does) but he cant dodge every kick and punch cap throws can he?  and lets not talk about power, the guy block a full on punch from rhino with his shield  "

" @Vance Astro: 1 and 2; i was simply using bullseye as an example of duriblity. bullseye(h2h) in only a couple of hits had DD on the ground and he didnt get back up (your a DD fan you should know the issue: bullseye was going after some girl and DD was trying to stop him) it doesnt matter if he had prep or not i was simply stating it because DD has low duriblity.  3; wth are you talking about? who has DD been hit by that was stronger than iron man and was still consious? proof? if they are PIS why bring them up? yes iron man can one shot cap i know this but yes iron man WAS trying to knock out cap so he could bring him in. once again iron man stated that any other man would be K.O. how many times do i have to state that? did i say cap beat the living hell out of cap? my bad typo  4; when i said sonar i ment radar sense, once again my bad. once again DD doesnt have better h2h skills then cap so his offence will be canceled out by a better offence  5;..............................................mary jane -_- "

" @Vance Astro: im done with you on this thread, you wont even give me proof when i ask you to. YOUR the one defending DD not me. if you asked for proof from me and i didnt have it i would say "sorry i cant find it" THEN i would tell you where i saw this feat at. dude everything that happened in civil war was cannon dude. if i remember correctly even marvel has cap as a better fighter (stat wise i mean). IRON MAN DISLOCATED HIS JAW DUDE, you call that barely touched? "

" Daredevil has been trained by ninja.  He's trained for these kinds of situations. "

"

Double D beats Buck Wild.

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Bumping with change in gear for Bucky: 
  
Round 1: Bucky is Captain America with standard gear he carries: Only has Nick Fury's special pistol, Sleeping gas, explosives, KBAR and of course the Shield. Will not use his arm to cause a lethal kill.
 
Round 2: Winter Soldier standard gear, M16+M203, KBAR, Grenades, Dual .45 M1911, willing to kill and use arm to its fullest.
  
Daredevil has Standard gear 

I was just reading this thread like 5 minutes ago...

What is special about Nick Fury's pistol?

@texasdeathmatch: I read in a handbook that Nick Fury's pistol was modified to have more power (faster bullet speed) and kick to it. Since Nick Fury supplies Bucky with all his gear, Bucky's pistol resembles it a lot. People make the mistake that Bucky carried a luger. There are two instances where Mockingbird commented on it's powerful kick and when bucky actually shot Ares under the mouth KOing and winding him for a 5 to 8 seconds. But to be honest I don't know if it would make a big difference in this fight as compared to a normal pistol.

Daredevil.

@Vance Astro said:

Daredevil.

Is it his senses that give him an edge in your opinion? Or that we haven't seen enough feats from Bucky to put him at Daredevil's league? Do you think Bucky has potential at beating him one day as his story progresses in the new Winter Soldier arc and more of his past fights are revealed? Or will Daredevil always prevail?

@SlimJ87D: Cool, thanks man.

@Vance Astro said:

Daredevil.

Is it his senses that give him an edge in your opinion? Or that we haven't seen enough feats from Bucky to put him at Daredevil's league? Do you think Bucky has potential at beating him one day as his story progresses in the new Winter Soldier arc and more of his past fights are revealed? Or will Daredevil always prevail?

@Vance Astro: Right now I think what's really messing Bucky up is that he was trained to kill and that training was furthered when he was captured by the Russians. Now that he is in a new world where the morals of war don't apply, he has to adjust his fighting style from lethal blows to none lethal ones. I'm hoping if he retrains, they touch the subject that he needs to perfect his current techniques as to not harm people.

That's why I bumped the topic back with him being the Winter Soldier with no fear of hurting others, and as a man that puts morals on top of his list as Captain America.

Either way, if not for feats, I know his series will be a nice treat and a great way to start 2012 as long as the Mayan calendar is full of itself.

Bucky is good, but he's not Steve Rogers. Not by a long shot. Daredevil wins.