Captain America and Wolverine vs Lady Shiva and Cassandra Cain

team 2

team 1

Team 1. 
Logan will beat either Cass or Shiva. 
Cap with his shield should be able to hold his own against both fighters but i don't know if he can win. He has a pretty good chance though if he lands some good hits with his shield or if he try to use it in a more tactical way. 
But even if he lose, Logan should be able to beat the other fighter due to his durability, close level of skill, claws and healing. 
=]

H2H and Cap without a shield would be better, IMO. 

"Team 1. Logan will beat either Cass or Shiva. Cap with his shield should be able to hold his own against both fighters but i don't know if he can win. He has a pretty good chance though if he lands some good hits with his shield or if he try to use it in a more tactical way. But even if he lose, Logan should be able to beat the other fighter due to his durability, close level of skill, claws and healing. =] "

"Team 1. Logan will beat either Cass or Shiva. Cap with his shield should be able to hold his own against both fighters but i don't know if he can win. He has a pretty good chance though if he lands some good hits with his shield or if he try to use it in a more tactical way. But even if he lose, Logan should be able to beat the other fighter due to his durability, close level of skill, claws and healing. =] "

it could go either way

this goes only one way and that is them being impaled by Logan's claws while cap tries to hold him back...

"this goes only one way and that is them being impaled by Logan's claws while cap tries to hold him back... "

i am aware of that i was making fun of the situation.
 
a lot of ppl here in this forum need to stop believing Lady Shiva and Cassandra are equal or near equal to beings like Wolverine or Cap...
 they are not and never will be.. the closest beings they should be matched and paired against are ppl like DD, the Cat slightly enhanced Olympic Marvel humans Taskmaster...since that is where they belong..regardless of their high bullet dodging feats and blur running.. which all these street Olympic lvlers have done.
this is one of the reasons  i barely post in the vs forum... too many ppl are blinded by fanaticism and bias toward certain characters that they put them against those who eat them alive and then  believe their chosen character will win with nothing more then the knowledge gleaned by the profile character page.

"i am aware of that i was making fun of the situation.  a lot of ppl here in this forum need to stop believing Lady Shiva and Cassandra are equal or near equal to beings like Wolverine or Cap...  they are not and never will be.. the closest beings they should be matched and bared against are ppl like DD, the Cat slightly enhanced Olympic Marvel humans since that is where they belong..regardless of their high bullet dodging feats and blur running.. which all these street Olympic lvlers have done. "

the only way team 2 can take a single win is by a giant load of PIS and WIS backing them up...
 
Lady Shiva's infamous Leopard Blow hitting Cap..
 
Cassandra landing a punch in Logan's throat and crushing it and the one in a million shot that he wont heal immediately as he rolls on the ground gasping for air b/c one writer one time chose to make fun of wolverine in one of  the crappiest story ever written.... Lady Shiva and Cassandra then pounce on Logan as he rolls in pain gasping for which shouldnt even be likely since logan's healing actually reduces and staves off oxygen deprivation for an extended period of time... but whatever.
 
leopard blow to logan's chest bypassing the adamantium ribcage which should reduce if not absorb the full  kinetic energy of the blow as is one of the less known attributes of adamantium one being due to its density the other b/c it was made in an attempt to replicate Cap's shield and although not exact it did gain a similar attributes slightly scaled back..plus Logan's Adamantium being beta Adamantium another attributes to make leopard blows ineffectual.
 
 
the ladies can simply finger jab, judo chop pressure point attack wolverine till they overwhelm his system b/c in comics it has never worked and the instances noted required a ton of poison canceling out logan's healing factor and still Wolvie was shrugging off over a dozen death causing pressure points b4 passing out.. but b/c garth ennis made Wolvie gasp for air and roll in pain on the ground gasping for air ppl will use the lowest showing of wolverine ever written...
 
this is of course forgetting that Wolvie bloodlusted probably means logan's animal rage and berserker fury will be full force which means that Wolvie's pain tolerance reflexes and fighting skills would all be exponentially increased but ppl who know nothing of Wolvie and his "berserker Rage" will say he is dumb as a bag of bricks pointing out times logan is "feral: in comics and thinking it is the same as berseker fury which it is not and then claim he can   be easily dodged even if Logan were capable of superhuman lvl speed and reaction which his own processing nueral kinetics have bn reference to multiple chess computers..
 
 
so yeh, ignoring the character as a whole and latching on at the lowest possible pis of him Cassandra and Lady Shiva pawn...(sarcasm)

"the only way team 2 can take a single win is by a giant load of PIS and WIS backing them up...  Lady Shiva's infamous Leopard Blow hitting Cap..  Cassandra landing a punch in Logan's throat and crushing it and the one in a million shot that he wont heal immediately as he rolls on the ground gasping for air b/c one writer one time chose to make fun of wolverine in one of  the crappiest story ever written.... Lady Shiva and Cassandra then pounce on Logan as he rolls in pain gasping for which shouldnt even be likely since logan's healing actually reduces and staves off oxygen deprivation for an extended period of time... but whatever.  leopard blow to logan's chest bypassing the adamantium ribcage which should reduce if not absorb the full  kinetic energy of the blow as is one of the less known attributes of adamantium one being due to its density the other b/c it was made in an attempt to replicate Cap's shield and although not exact it did gain a similar attributes slightly scaled back..plus Logan's Adamantium being beta Adamantium another attributes to make leopard blows ineffectual.   the ladies can simply finger jab, judo chop pressure point attack wolverine till they overwhelm his system b/c in comics it has never worked and the instances noted required a ton of poison canceling out logan's healing factor and still Wolvie was shrugging off over a dozen death causing pressure points b4 passing out.. but b/c garth ennis made Wolvie gasp for air and roll in pain on the ground gasping for air ppl will use the lowest showing of wolverine ever written...  this is of course forgetting that Wolvie bloodlusted probably means logan's animal rage and berserker fury will be full force which means that Wolvie's pain tolerance reflexes and fighting skills would all be exponentially increased but ppl who know nothing of Wolvie and his "berserker Rage" will say he is dumb as a bag of bricks pointing out times logan is "feral: in comics and thinking it is the same as berseker fury which it is not and then claim he can   be easily dodged even if Logan were capable of superhuman lvl speed and reaction which his own processing nueral kinetics have bn reference to multiple chess computers..   so yeh, ignoring the character as a whole and latching on at the lowest possible pis of him Cassandra and Lady Shiva pawn...(sarcasm) "

that's my whole point i was being sarcastic pointing out  the insurmountable obstacles they would need to face to pull a win....
 
but , it doesnt matter ppl will come in read what i wrote ignore it dismiss it without trying to logically debate it through or apply reason to their view of the match and with a few simple words:  "team 2 wins."
 
and run off... or ppl who have massive anger issues and troll and lowball for no other reason but that they lack self control and respect..

"that's my whole point i was being sarcastic pointing out  the insurmountable obstacles they would need to face to pull a win....
 
but , it doesnt matter ppl will come in read what i wrote ignore it dismiss it without trying to logically debate it through or apply reason to their view of the match and with a few simple words:  "team 2 wins."  and run off... or ppl who have massive anger issues and troll and lowball for no other reason but that they lack self control and respect.. "

im saying team 1 wins.

"i am aware of that i was making fun of the situation.  a lot of ppl here in this forum need to stop believing Lady Shiva and Cassandra are equal or near equal to beings like Wolverine or Cap...  they are not and never will be.. the closest beings they should be matched and paired against are ppl like DD, the Cat slightly enhanced Olympic Marvel humans Taskmaster...since that is where they belong..regardless of their high bullet dodging feats and blur running.. which all these street Olympic lvlers have done. this is one of the reasons  i barely post in the vs forum... too many ppl are blinded by fanaticism and bias toward certain characters that they put them against those who eat them alive and then  believe their chosen character will win with nothing more then the knowledge gleaned by the profile character page. "

"@Dark King said:

"i am aware of that i was making fun of the situation.  a lot of ppl here in this forum need to stop believing Lady Shiva and Cassandra are equal or near equal to beings like Wolverine or Cap...  they are not and never will be.. the closest beings they should be matched and paired against are ppl like DD, the Cat slightly enhanced Olympic Marvel humans Taskmaster...since that is where they belong..regardless of their high bullet dodging feats and blur running.. which all these street Olympic lvlers have done. this is one of the reasons  i barely post in the vs forum... too many ppl are blinded by fanaticism and bias toward certain characters that they put them against those who eat them alive and then  believe their chosen character will win with nothing more then the knowledge gleaned by the profile character page. "

Considering that dd,tasky and cat have given trouble and even beaten those mighty mortals , so no. logan and cap regardless win, shiva cannot beat either logan or cap(maybe she could beat him without his shield but with it, i doubt it )  , cass could maybe beat cap but i dont see her beating logan for the majority.Marvel team 6-7/10.and cass is not olympic,she is enhanced or peak. "

"@entropy_aegis said:

"@Dark King said:

"i am aware of that i was making fun of the situation.  a lot of ppl here in this forum need to stop believing Lady Shiva and Cassandra are equal or near equal to beings like Wolverine or Cap...  they are not and never will be.. the closest beings they should be matched and paired against are ppl like DD, the Cat slightly enhanced Olympic Marvel humans Taskmaster...since that is where they belong..regardless of their high bullet dodging feats and blur running.. which all these street Olympic lvlers have done. this is one of the reasons  i barely post in the vs forum... too many ppl are blinded by fanaticism and bias toward certain characters that they put them against those who eat them alive and then  believe their chosen character will win with nothing more then the knowledge gleaned by the profile character page. "

Considering that dd,tasky and cat have given trouble and even beaten those mighty mortals , so no. logan and cap regardless win, shiva cannot beat either logan or cap(maybe she could beat him without his shield but with it, i doubt it )  , cass could maybe beat cap but i dont see her beating logan for the majority.Marvel team 6-7/10.and cass is not olympic,she is enhanced or peak. "

I don't see Cassie beating Steve "

"@comicdude23 said:

"@entropy_aegis said:

"@Dark King said:

"i am aware of that i was making fun of the situation.  a lot of ppl here in this forum need to stop believing Lady Shiva and Cassandra are equal or near equal to beings like Wolverine or Cap...  they are not and never will be.. the closest beings they should be matched and paired against are ppl like DD, the Cat slightly enhanced Olympic Marvel humans Taskmaster...since that is where they belong..regardless of their high bullet dodging feats and blur running.. which all these street Olympic lvlers have done. this is one of the reasons  i barely post in the vs forum... too many ppl are blinded by fanaticism and bias toward certain characters that they put them against those who eat them alive and then  believe their chosen character will win with nothing more then the knowledge gleaned by the profile character page. "

Considering that dd,tasky and cat have given trouble and even beaten those mighty mortals , so no. logan and cap regardless win, shiva cannot beat either logan or cap(maybe she could beat him without his shield but with it, i doubt it )  , cass could maybe beat cap but i dont see her beating logan for the majority.Marvel team 6-7/10.and cass is not olympic,she is enhanced or peak. "

I don't see Cassie beating Steve "

At her best i believe she can take him,but more recently however she's not been so good. "

"wolverine solos "

"@entropy_aegis said:

"@comicdude23 said:

"@entropy_aegis said:

"@Dark King said:

"i am aware of that i was making fun of the situation.  a lot of ppl here in this forum need to stop believing Lady Shiva and Cassandra are equal or near equal to beings like Wolverine or Cap...  they are not and never will be.. the closest beings they should be matched and paired against are ppl like DD, the Cat slightly enhanced Olympic Marvel humans Taskmaster...since that is where they belong..regardless of their high bullet dodging feats and blur running.. which all these street Olympic lvlers have done. this is one of the reasons  i barely post in the vs forum... too many ppl are blinded by fanaticism and bias toward certain characters that they put them against those who eat them alive and then  believe their chosen character will win with nothing more then the knowledge gleaned by the profile character page. "

Considering that dd,tasky and cat have given trouble and even beaten those mighty mortals , so no. logan and cap regardless win, shiva cannot beat either logan or cap(maybe she could beat him without his shield but with it, i doubt it )  , cass could maybe beat cap but i dont see her beating logan for the majority.Marvel team 6-7/10.and cass is not olympic,she is enhanced or peak. "

I don't see Cassie beating Steve "

At her best i believe she can take him,but more recently however she's not been so good. "

Getting one shotted by Nightwing, tagged by Tim Drake isn't good at all, Steve has taken Spider-Man, Punihser, Hulk etc "

didnt realize they were bloodlusted, Team 1 then.

"@Dark King: Thank you ! people constantly pit the likes of Lady Shiva against people like Wolverine , simply because they can "dodge bullets" or "read body language" , they use the best feats of characters on this level and put them against the lowest feats of superior characters .   Team 2 win , even though most will say team 1  "

"wolverine solos "

"@Dark King: Thank you ! people constantly pit the likes of Lady Shiva against people like Wolverine , simply because they can "dodge bullets" or "read body language" , they use the best feats of characters on this level and put them against the lowest feats of superior characters .   Team 1 win .  "

"@entropy_aegis: i dont, Cap beating Hulk is PIS , i think lowballing certain characters in order to make a even fight against inferior characters isn't cool. "

i think shiva and cain take it

"i think shiva and cain take it "

T1

Cap is on pair with their Martial Arts's , Logan is close .... Cap also has a shield , and Wolverine can heal. And pls dont forget Cassandra is still a girl so she can't absorbe much punishment,
 
Team 1 for the win

Team 2 wins. 

Cap beats Cass. With his shield especially. He's able to make Spiderman think he's got the upper hand, only to have Spiderman move exactly where he wanted him. Cass' reading ability means very little against a person like Cap.
 
Logan slices Shiva. Adamantium and HF are a clear advantage here.

Cass and Lady Shiva Might, I repeat MIGHT, be slightly better trained than Wolvie and cap, but wolvie and Cap are both superhuman. (ok, technically Cap is peak human in every way, but that translates out to superhuman.) Cap and Wolverine take it.

"Cass and Lady Shiva Might, I repeat MIGHT, be slightly better trained than Wolvie and cap, but wolvie and Cap are both superhuman. (ok, technically Cap is peak human in every way, but that translates out to superhuman.) Cap and Wolverine take it. "

Team 1

Team 1

I believe Wolverine can take either Cass or Shiva, but I'm not sure about Cap taking Cass or Shiva

team 1. cass is overrated as hell.

Wolvie and Cap take this one, Wolverine could do on forever and any hit with an adamantium skeleton is going to hurt like hell; Cap can take a lickin' and keep on tickin', so he will outlast the two ladies easily.

@jasraj: Could still knock him out though :)

Team 1, because of Wolverine