Captain America and Winter Soldier vs sebastian michaelis

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All 3 are movie versions

Cap has shield

Bucky has all gear he used in the movie

Sebastian has his standard set of knives and forks

Is that a girl?

I don't recall any super impressive feats in the movie...

Jmarshmallow

@those_eyes: He looks really fast and skilled, but if Cap or Bucky punch him repeatedly, he's gonna get jacked up.

His speed was high but yae he wasnt as impressive as he is in the anime.

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Thats what i was wondering. If they hit him he probably will be ko'd.

@those_eyes: Far bro, he looks like a girl.

@those_eyes: He would have a hard time vs just 1 of them, together they will overwhelm him and kick his butt up and down.

idk about that. :P

Let's not push it.

I'm tempted to say that Sebastian wins this fight, maybe even stomps.

He is a casual bullet dodger, with fighting skills equal if not superior to both of them.

He has no durability feats that I can think of, but I don't see him getting hit in the first place.

Jmarshmallow

They made a live-action Black Butler/Kuroshitsuji movie? @those_eyes Would you say it was bad as Dragon Ball Evolution?

@jmarshmallow: i remember at some point in the movie he had a cut on his face and made it heal and all the blood go away instantly but beyond that yae he has no feats of durability.

I know you didn't ask me, but I'd like to point out NOTHING is as bad as Dragon Ball Evolution.

Jmarshmallow

Really, it shouldn't matter.

He won't get hit in the first place, he's FAR faster than them.

And besides, he's still a demon. He can't really "die."

Jmarshmallow

Well... Would you consider it bad? Cause y'know, most anime live-action movies are. The Death Note one was awful.

It...could have been better, I'm not going to lie.

However, it really wasn't awful. Like, not by any means.

I thoroughly enjoyed it, and it's a flick that I can watch when I suspend my love of the source material for a second.

Same kinda dealio with the Percy Jackson films.

Not downright terrible if you're not an actual fan, but by no means amazing.

Jmarshmallow

Compared to Dragon ball evolution its a good movie but compared to the black butler anime and manga it kinda sucks. lol

As a movie in and of itself without comparing it to anything its an ok movie, not anything i would go watch again.

But thankfully season 3 of black butler is out.

@those_eyes: @jmarshmallow:

Cap Dodged Plasma blasts, they are fast enough to hit him and when they do, he'll be sent flying. When he has fighting ole dude in the grey suit at the end of the movie, he got kicked one time and was sent flying and got knocked down.

Also Bucky has explosives and Cap has his shield, together they beat him. Eventually they will tag him and when they do, it's gonna hurt.

Depending how far away they start, they can simply keep their distance. The shield is a good long range weapon. He dodged handgun fire, let's see if he can dodge Bucky's machine gun.

@mysticmedivh

I actually liked the first Death Note Live Action Movie, didn't see the other 2 though.

@lukehero: Neither of them have dodged gunfire as casually as Sebastian has.

He's gonna blitz them, and he's gonna stab them both in the neck with Kitchen Utensils.

Jmarshmallow

@jmarshmallow: I disagree, if they start far away enough, Bucky blows him up or shoots him with his machine gun. He dies.

@jmarshmallow: man all those henchmen were idiots... Who tries to use a gun like a knife....

If they start far enough away, Sebastian throws a knife with his supernatural accuracy and impales them both in the head. His reflexes are better, so he'll be first on the draw.

And did you see how fast he covered the distance after throwing that first knife? His speed is demonic.

Cap and Bucky don't stand much of a shot IMO.

Okay lol...valid point...

But still, the main point I was making there was that he's just as skilled (if not more so) and certainly faster.

His accuracy is incredible, his speed is far superior to the both of them, and while he doesn't have many durability feats, it's heavily implied that he's for all intents and purposes immortal (much like the source material he originates from).

Jmarshmallow

@jmarshmallow:

If they start far enough away, Sebastian throws a knife with his supernatural accuracy and impales them both in the head. His reflexes are better, so he'll be first on the draw.

And did you see how fast he covered the distance after throwing that first knife? His speed is demonic.

Cap and Bucky don't stand much of a shot IMO.

Cap has reacted to plasma fire and been able to block it. He'll have to choose which one to hit, if they start away far enough, he still gets blown up or shot IMO. He's lack of durability feats is problem IMO. One on one, he could beat either guy in a close one, 7/10, 6/10 type situation. Together they can take him.

@jmarshmallow: you could be right, I don't know anything about the guy. But from that video, all those men are incompetent and stupid. At no point did they move in any kind of tactical formation once the fight started. Sebastian was spinning in a circle around them and they move towards him.

I think the Hydra fodder were a lot smarter, attacking with their weapons spread apart, taking cover, etc. I feel like the guys Sebastian fought might be the reason he looks more impressive.

Also, if you watch SHIELD, the shield and hydra agents are no average Joe. The show does a good job at elaborating how good shield agents are at combat, policemen and other military personnel are fodder to them, so I'd say the fodder in Cap's elevator scene are much more skilled than the goons sebastian took down.

As for bullet dodging, bucky did manage to flip out of the way of Falcons gun fire and he also blocked a guys gunfire to his face using his metal arm.

I don't know anything about Sebastian, but I just wanted to add my two cents from what I can see in that video and what I know about shield agents that Cap had to go up against.

Jmarshmallow

Team wins.

@slimj87d: Yeah, I'd certainly agree that the fodder Sebastian fought were certainly dumber then fodder Hydra agents.

But at the end of the day, that's all they are: fodder.

They're just there to make the hero look good, and gauge where their skill is at.

And I feel that even though Sebastian's may have been dumb (retarded, even), they allowed him to showcase his immense skill, accuracy, and speed.

Even had it been Hydra agents, I don't picture that fight going differently.

Just my two cents, but you could very well be correct. He doesn't have many showings in the movie besides that fight scene, so really that's all I can go off of.

Jmarshmallow

@jmarshmallow:

Not the same as casually dodging gunfire inches away from your face IMO.

My Nitpicky Point:

If you look at the video, he was actually dodging the angle towards which they were holding the gun...this is dodging the actual bullets.

Will he? He has two hands, so he'll throw a knife at both. If one happens to dodge it (more than likely Cap), Sebastian closes the gap like he did in the video and they begin H2H, in which Sebastian will take with ease IMO.

If we want to get it to it, he threw that knife at fodder, not the same as throwing it at someone like Cap and Bucky who have actual superhuman speed.

Fair enough point, but the movie heavily implies that he's basically immortal, as he can't die until his contract is complete.

So as long as he's given an order to kill Cap and Bucky, he will kill Cap and Bucky.

Good point, but he can still get KOed, via shield or explosion.

@lukehero:

Jmarshmallow

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