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#1 Posted by TheBaneVenom (39 posts) - - Show Bio

Like the topic says, can he?

#2 Posted by Perethorn (2750 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can´t beat Flash or MM.

Thor can defeat both of them with the Odin Force.

#3 Edited by TheBaneVenom (39 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's say without the odin force then.

#4 Posted by Jmarshmallow (2716 posts) - - Show Bio

@perethorn: That shouldn't really count, considering that's Odin's power, not Thor's.

Jmarshmallow

#5 Posted by TheBaneVenom (39 posts) - - Show Bio
#6 Edited by Cgoodness (2283 posts) - - Show Bio

New-52?

#7 Edited by SheenLantern (5322 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can´t beat Flash or MM.

Thor can defeat both of them with the Odin Force.

And Superman can beat all 3 while in the Thought Robot.

Let's just stick to regular versions...

#8 Posted by nickzambuto (11426 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman.

#9 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (4918 posts) - - Show Bio
#10 Posted by MonsterStomp (13118 posts) - - Show Bio

@perethorn said:

Superman can´t beat Flash or MM.

Thor can defeat both of them with the Odin Force.

And Superman can beat all 3 while in the Thought Robot.

Let's just stick to regular versions...

Ooooooo... I like how you flipped the argument there..

#11 Posted by Pr0metheus (3170 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone with a electrical weakness that has beat Superman.

#12 Posted by i_like_swords (7615 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone who's allergic to stupid accents and long blonde hair

#13 Posted by AngryHulks (2965 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone with magical power, Thor has resistance and experience in dealing these sort of stuff (Superman have experience, but not resistance).

#14 Posted by green_skaar (4105 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm surprised no one mentioned Silver Surfer yet.

#15 Edited by SSJLozza (1527 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone who's allergic to stupid accents and long blonde hair

What's wrong with Thor's accent? Lol

#16 Posted by logy5000 (5525 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm surprised no one mentioned Silver Surfer yet.

With morals off, SS would wreck Thor.

Morals on, SS would get wrecked by either of them.

#17 Edited by sync1 (2154 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone who's allergic to stupid accents and long blonde hair

lol

#18 Posted by i_like_swords (7615 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssjlozza said:

@i_like_swords said:

Anyone who's allergic to stupid accents and long blonde hair

What's wrong with Thor's accent? Lol

It's too Asgardian

#20 Edited by Ratatat (697 posts) - - Show Bio

Kryptonite man

#21 Posted by SOG7dc (6713 posts) - - Show Bio
#22 Edited by NICK31898 (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

@ratatat said:

Krytonite man

Kryptonite*, and Haha

#23 Edited by robertloucksjr (1489 posts) - - Show Bio

Hasn't Thor shown more, although sporadic, mental resistance that Superman? Resisting Phoenix Emma? He might be able to beat some mind rapers that Superman can't.

#24 Posted by AngryHulks (2965 posts) - - Show Bio

Hasn't Thor shown more, although sporadic, mental resistance that Superman? Resisting Phoenix Emma? He might be able to beat some mind rapers that Superman can't.

Superman have some degree of resistance against telepathic assault as well, though I don't know if he performed better or worst than Thor.

#25 Posted by kidman560 (5686 posts) - - Show Bio

didnt thor end up putting down sentry im not sure of Supes could do that or not.

didnt thor also beat Mephisto. I dont think Supes could do that.

#26 Posted by DarkRaiden (5160 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer

any Kryptonite or Red Sun or Solar absorption based enemy

MMH

Flash

WW (at times she beats Supes)

Doomsday no matter the incarnation

Magical enemies

#27 Posted by Bossmonster (1959 posts) - - Show Bio

@ratatat said:

Krytonite man

Greatest thing I've read here today.

#28 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3217 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone in Marvel since Supermans in DC.

#29 Posted by Phoenixgeist (3661 posts) - - Show Bio

Himself

#30 Posted by dondave (26634 posts) - - Show Bio

didnt thor end up putting down sentry im not sure of Supes could do that or not.

didnt thor also beat Mephisto. I dont think Supes could do that.

Sentry let himself die, IIRC Bendis once said that anyone could have killed Sentry at that point

#31 Edited by oceanmaster21 (6319 posts) - - Show Bio

thor can beat some oeple that superman can

#32 Edited by kidman560 (5686 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@kidman560 said:

didnt thor end up putting down sentry im not sure of Supes could do that or not.

didnt thor also beat Mephisto. I dont think Supes could do that.

Sentry let himself die, IIRC Bendis once said that anyone could have killed Sentry at that point

ok but still didnt thor beat Mephisto i dont see supes doing that

#33 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10235 posts) - - Show Bio

The OP states.....

Can Thor beat anybody Superman can't beat?

I'm not sure if this relates to villains, or DC characters or group of people in particular, I doubt it. So, seeing as the OP is just a blank statement ... this isn't a real battle thread, just see if you can list all the random beings who are magical and that can beat Superman, no one here is even trying to debate really. Arguments for the ones people think Thor can beat can be made or probably already have been made, but since no one is making any now then I guess this isn't really a battle thread.

Silver Surfer = No, Surfer would beat Thor almost every time should he actually fight seriously.

any Kryptonite or Red Sun or Solar absorption based enemy = No cus Superman almost ALWAYS beats his red sun/kryptonite based enemies...unless you forgot the OP that quickly.

MMH = No, Thor may be able to hit intangibles and is resistant to telepathy...but he is not immune at all and never has been, he's also too slow for J'onn and has nothing to threaten J'onn with due to the healing factor. Thor loses every time.

Flash = No, are you kidding me?

WW (at times she beats Supes) = No, this has been debated over and over and I myself have laid down the foundation and made it clear that Wonder Woman would beat or stalemate Thor, also, Superman has beaten her once as well...this thread is for people who Superman cannot beat, and he has the capacity to beat Wonder Woman.

Doomsday no matter the incarnation = No, this is just pain stupidity also. Superman has beaten an incarnation or two of Doomsday, H/P Doomsday and Brainiac/Doomsday would murder Thor.

Magical enemies = No, not only is this totally ambiguous but it is somewhat ignorant...are you saying Thor is going to beat Alan Scott and Dr Fate? The Wizard Shazam? This thread also doesn't state whether they have to be from DC or Marvel...so are you saying Thor can beat Dr Strange? Zeus? Odin? Might want to elaborate that statement....

mhm.....

#34 Edited by dondave (26634 posts) - - Show Bio

The OP states.....

Can Thor beat anybody Superman can't beat?

I'm not sure if this relates to villains, or DC characters or group of people in particular, I doubt it. So, seeing as the OP is just a blank statement ... this isn't a real battle thread, just see if you can list all the random beings who are magical and that can beat Superman, no one here is even trying to debate really. Arguments for the ones people think Thor can beat can be made or probably already have been made, but since no one is making any now then I guess this isn't really a battle thread.

@darkraiden said:

Silver Surfer = No, Surfer would beat Thor almost every time should he actually fight seriously.

any Kryptonite or Red Sun or Solar absorption based enemy = No cus Superman almost ALWAYS beats his red sun/kryptonite based enemies...unless you forgot the OP that quickly.

MMH = No, Thor may be able to hit intangibles and is resistant to telepathy...but he is not immune at all and never has been, he's also too slow for J'onn and has nothing to threaten J'onn with due to the healing factor. Thor loses every time.

Flash = No, are you kidding me?

WW (at times she beats Supes) = No, this has been debated over and over and I myself have laid down the foundation and made it clear that Wonder Woman would beat or stalemate Thor, also, Superman has beaten her once as well...this thread is for people who Superman cannot beat, and he has the capacity to beat Wonder Woman.

Doomsday no matter the incarnation = No, this is just pain stupidity also. Superman has beaten an incarnation or two of Doomsday, H/P Doomsday and Brainiac/Doomsday would murder Thor.

Magical enemies = No, not only is this totally ambiguous but it is somewhat ignorant...are you saying Thor is going to beat Alan Scott and Dr Fate? The Wizard Shazam? This thread also doesn't state whether they have to be from DC or Marvel...so are you saying Thor can beat Dr Strange? Zeus? Odin? Might want to elaborate that statement....

mhm.....

QFT

#35 Posted by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor has a much better plot device powers when he actually uses them he can beat plenty of people supes can't beat.

#36 Posted by BullPR (641 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days: Yes.

The Serpent from feat itself. Odin himself was ready to wipe out humanity to cut Serpent source of power.

Thor mystical/magical power added to his strength allowed Thor to succeed. Superman would have been particularly vulnerable to the Serpent's kind of power (even Juggernaut, a being that closed and linked to magic was under his influence, so who knows how superman would have reacted.). By contrast Thor is "designed" to counter it.

#37 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (4682 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman doesn't exist in Marvel so anybody Thor beats in Marvel is someone Superman can't beat in DC.

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#38 Posted by Stormmagician (103 posts) - - Show Bio

Shadowking?

#39 Posted by pooty (10315 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Posted by dondave (26634 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Posted by pooty (10315 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: I don't see why not

Mjolnir can absorb her

#42 Posted by dondave (26634 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@dondave: I don't see why not

Mjolnir can absorb her

Mjolnir could , Thor isn't smart enough to do

#43 Posted by DarkRaiden (5160 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days:

1. Maybe but Thor almost always wins so.....he can beat Surfer that means

2. Keyword ALMOST always beats his red sun and kryptonite opponents. The one he loses to, Thor can beat.

3. Thor's not slow, has enough TP resistance to end Jonn with a godblast or ko him with mjonlir or planetary lightning or send him to a blackhole

4. Flash can't hurt Thor enough fast enough before Thor oneshots him

5. WW eh she beats Supes sometimes, Thor would beat her 10/10

6. H/P Doomsday get's BFR'd or Godblasted. Either way he loses.

7. Yes to Fate, maybe Alan Scott, slight chance against Shazam, has stalemated Zeus, can probably beat Strange. He can beat top tier Magic users that Supes can't. Like he actually stands a chance against a Juggernaut even if no BFR. Supes does not.

#44 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10235 posts) - - Show Bio

@bullpr: i don't understand what you are referring to since I never referenced the Serpent. Unless you are referring him in comparison to magical beings such as Alan Scott, Strange, Shazam, Zues and Fate .... Although Odin was prepared to do the unthinkable to stop him it doesn't mean he's more powerful than Odin himself or even Thor for that matter. Besides, there are more powerful magical beings than Serpent and Thor especially in classic Marvel and DC. Classic Dr. Fate/Dr. Strange for example, PC Mordru for damn sure, Dormamu, DC Ares, Gorr, Oblivion, the Shattered God etc ...

#45 Posted by pooty (10315 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkraiden: has enough TP resistance to end Jonn with a godblast or ko him with mjonlir or planetary lightning or send him to a blackhole

Jonn can go intangible or is fast enough to dodge his attacks including lightning.

Flash can't hurt Thor enough fast enough before Thor oneshots him

One IMP can KO a martian. Flash said he could have hit dude thousands of times in less then a second. also, the speed force protects wally from a lot of harm. and Thor can't oneshot someone he can't hit. Flash can also speed steal, shut down his brain or phase through his body and take out his brain. If this is Pre 52 wally we are discussing

Like he actually stands a chance against a Juggernaut even if no BFR

Thor's record vs Juggs SUCKS!!!!! BAD!!!! Thor couldn't even KO him when he shut off his power.

#46 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Mjolnir could , Thor isn't smart enough to do

#99% of 'Thor would lose arguments'

#47 Posted by pooty (10315 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Mjolnir could , Thor isn't smart enough to do

#99% of 'Thor would lose arguments'

True. but in this case. even fighting smart he loses to Photon IMO

#48 Edited by Fastnoc (139 posts) - - Show Bio

@perethorn: You sound retarded, flash would stomp thor, and so would martian manhunter.

#49 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10235 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days:

1. Maybe but Thor almost always wins so.....he can beat Surfer that means

(sigh) You're really just going to wank Thor like that? Really? ....... and as for the other responses .... I just can't. I can't! I cannot even try to understand your reasoning and I don't think I want to waste my time and sanity trying to.

2. Keyword ALMOST always beats his red sun and kryptonite opponents. The one he loses to, Thor can beat.

3. Thor's not slow, has enough TP resistance to end Jonn with a godblast or ko him with mjonlir or planetary lightning or send him to a blackhole

4. Flash can't hurt Thor enough fast enough before Thor oneshots him

5. WW eh she beats Supes sometimes, Thor would beat her 10/10

6. H/P Doomsday get's BFR'd or Godblasted. Either way he loses.

7. Yes to Fate, maybe Alan Scott, slight chance against Shazam, has stalemated Zeus, can probably beat Strange. He can beat top tier Magic users that Supes can't. Like he actually stands a chance against a Juggernaut even if no BFR. Supes does not.

2. You don't even know who that one is....and once again, the OP states...can thor beat anybody superman CAN'T BEAT....as in has no ability to beat and probably has never beaten.....there is no enemy who uses Kryptonite or Red Sun who Superman hasn't beaten once...unless you wan't to tell me who that is, shut up.

3. Thor is slow, Mongoose blitzed him, Spiderman blitzed him, he said Wolverine was faster, instead of being able to hit quicksilver with his hammer directly he hit the ground (which doesn't move at all) to sweep Pietro off his feet. He is consistently slow and Pooty already said the rest of what I wanted to say about Martian Manhunter.

4. You're joking...and Pooty already addressed that as well.

5. You're biased and ignorant and I already explained why she'd win to everyone else so I'll let you figure it out.

6. Thor has to push his opponent in the portal, and most of the people he BFR's cannot fly and do not have super speed...two things Doomsday has, a god blast takes too long to charge and Thor would be eating his own hammer by the time it was done...unless you think Doomsday is going to sit there sucking his thumb and counting the fingers on his free hand while Thor charges the god blast for 5 minutes....if you do, well, congratulations! you're as credible as Moonman.

7. You don't even know who Fate and Alan are, by that I mean you don't know anything about them other than what they look like and that one uses green magic while the other one uses yellow. Thor cannot beat them nor can he beat Zeus, like you said he stalemated him. He cannot beat Dr Strange....at all..... and as for Juggernaut vs Thor.....

@fastnoc said:

@perethorn: You sound retarded, flash would stomp thor, and so would martian manhunter.

While true, saying he sounds retarded isn't necessary....

#50 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10235 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@dondave: I don't see why not

Mjolnir can absorb her

She can blitz him before that happens...if it even happens, unless you're referring to classic Thor ;)