Can Iron Man Beat Silver Surfer

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Iron Man Is On A Mission

To Kill Silver Surfer

He Gets One Month Prep

Any Tech At His Disposal

Please Explain Your Anwsers

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Yes he can.

No.

Nah

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No

Silver Buster armor...?

Of course he can.

Silver Surfer has had his powers taken by Doom, and...I think someone else, but I can't recall. In any case, cosmic power is entirely siphon-able.

It is possible to temporarily drain the Silver Surfer of his powers, given enough advanced/expensive tech of which Stark has PLENTY to spare. Even S.H.I.E.L.D did it once, in an old comic somewhere.

Anyone can beat anyone depending on the writer.

@InfamousFish said:

Anyone can beat anyone depending on the writer.

Indeed.

Imagination is a wonderful thing. However, a writer that can make it feasible based off, and respecting, the full scope of each character's respective powersets, coupled with good writing, is another matter altogether.

Iron Man put his brain to work against the Phoenix (and yes, he failed) but the fact he effected it at all means writers could definitely see him techno craft something to deal with the power cosmic IMHO.

@Super_SoldierXII said:

@InfamousFish said:

Anyone can beat anyone depending on the writer.

Indeed.

Imagination is a wonderful thing. However, a writer that can make it feasible based off, and respecting, the full scope of each character's respective powersets, coupled with good writing, is another matter altogether.

Iron Man put his brain to work against the Phoenix (and yes, he failed) but the fact he effected it at all means writers could definitely see him techno craft something to deal with the power cosmic IMHO.

This is true.

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Maybe with the Destroyer Armor.

With prep, yes.

No, he can't. Prep time is overrated

And do people not realize that Tony AND Hank Pym made the gun, it isn't like Tony made it himself.

What if he's written by Loeb >:D?

No, he can't. Prep time is overrated

And do people not realize that Tony AND Hank Pym made the gun, it isn't like Tony made it himself.

Lol no he can't and never will

Depends on what you are letting him make in prep. Most likely he would lose but if you make him make whatever he wants that is too powerful then yes. I don't think he could build something powerful in a month.

No.

Iron Man can win with his PIS repulsors.

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@XImpossibruX said:

What if he's written by Loeb >:D?

I came here specifically to make that comment!

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Floopay

It's not impossible. Just highly improbable.

@MonsterStomp said:

It's not impossible. Just highly improbable.

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This.

@InfamousFish said:

Anyone can beat anyone depending on the writer.

QFT.

Now let us consider the writer's and editorial line point of view.

When Fatalis (Doom in English) borrowed the Surfer's power that was to serve a metaphor corresponding to the era and the fact that the powerful characters in the MU where not as numerous back then. Also the FF needed a fearsome enemy to keep the suspense going on because they had already defeated Fatalis.

Nowadays, I believe the Surfer clearly belongs to an other league. Iron Man wouldn't last a minute against him the way the present MU works. I think the Annihilators' arc is the most representative story for that.

It's possible.

He has hold his own against the likes of Thor in semi-random encounters.

With a month of prep he could upgrade his armor significantly, and study Silver Surfer's attacks, weaknesses, and strengths to better himself. Also, can he bring in help, like robots and such?

"Be water my friend"

@venomoushatred1001said:

With prep, yes.

With some kind of Silver Buster Armor, yes.

@XImpossibruX said:

What if he's written by Loeb >:D?

If Loeb's writing then Rulk will show up for no reason, kill both of them while making unnecessary and lewd comments, then punch Shuma-Gorath in the nuts before leaping off in the sunset.

@DocFatalis said:

@InfamousFish said:

Anyone can beat anyone depending on the writer.

QFT.

Now let us consider the writer's and editorial line point of view.

When Fatalis (Doom in English) borrowed the Surfer's power that was to serve a metaphor corresponding to the era and the fact that the powerful characters in the MU where not as numerous back then. Also the FF needed a fearsome enemy to keep the suspense going on because they had already defeated Fatalis.

Nowadays, I believe the Surfer clearly belongs to an other league. Iron Man wouldn't last a minute against him the way the present MU works. I think the Annihilators' arc is the most representative story for that.

I was talking about every battle, not just this one.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek:

Iron Man isn't capable of fighting evenly with Thor. He got completely owned in that fight with the Thorbuster armor. He also cannot defeat Silver Surfer without a plot device.

@Baldy: That's why I said it's possible, and he could hold his own against Thor, not defeat him.

With PIS I think he could beat Silver Surfer.

@InfamousFish said:

Anyone can beat anyone depending on the writer.

True.And Iron Man can't beat Silver Surfer.

Stark could beat Surfer with the right equipment and materials, but it have to be VERY right.

@AngryHulks

Yes I completely agree with you kind sir.

But to be righteous and factual, I'd have to say:

Stark CANNOT beat Silver Surfer no matter what.

Silver Surfer has just too many diverse powers! Energy Manipulation, Hyper Space travelling (???), Travelling through THE SUN...

Sorry but it's just too much for Stark to handle.

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But if Stark had access to let's say...Asgard and talked to a Nerd there to make him some extremely powerful armor (which I highly doubt stark could get for various reasons), he MIGHT have a chance, because NO MERE HUMAN can beat the Silver Surfer, that's why I'm highly doubtful.

Now say if it was Mr. Fantastic aka. Reed Richards or The Batman aka. Bruce Wayne preparing against the Silver Surfer...xD, they might have a better chance!

Hope this helped.

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Master M0r0n

Iron man can't be the surfer

@MasterM0r0n: Actually, Dr. Doom can, and have done this before.

@AngryHulks

1. That's exactly why I said Bruce Wayne or Reed Richards has a chance at beating the surfer.

2. Iron-man's intelligence is not On-Par with Dr. Doom's. Dr. Doom is smarter.

3. Dr. Doom could have beat the Silver Surfer through pure horrible comic book writing. This is not an excuse, this happens a lot in comic books for popularity or I don't know...xD

Hope this helped.

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Master M0r0n

@MasterM0r0n:

1. Tony is just as smart as Bruce.
2. Doom is only a bit smarter. Given a month prep Tony could design a Surfer suit that absorbs cosmic energy like he did with Thor.
3. This was not horrible comic writing. This was mentioned in The Infinity Gauntlet (one of the greatest comic storylines of all time) and several other stories.

Tony wins this.

prep or no prep. NOPE!

@PikminMania

@MasterM0r0n:

1. Tony is just as smart as Bruce.
2. Doom is only a bit smarter. Given a month prep Tony could design a Surfer suit that absorbs cosmic energy like he did with Thor.
3. This was not horrible comic writing. This was mentioned in The Infinity Gauntlet (one of the greatest comic storylines of all time) and several other stories.

Tony wins this.

1. Bruce is smarter than Tony for various reasons. Insider Suit, Batman beating Superman, Batman facing Justice League and more explains it ALL. But I might have made a mistake by saying Bruce could beat Silver Surfer with preparation. I apologize.

2. Nope, Doom's intelligence is comparable to Reed Richard's and Tony Stark is NO WHERE near that. Only in Tony's dreams.

3. I don't care if it was one of the greatest comic book story-lines, Dr. Doom defeating a wielder of the Power Cosmic doesn't make sense to me.

4. I followed you due to the arguments you based against me, good job!

@grimlock

prep or no prep. NOPE!

Exactly my point.

I think silver surfer is out of tony's league

With prep maybe without no chance in hell

Nope.

@MasterM0r0n said:

@PikminMania

@MasterM0r0n:

1. Tony is just as smart as Bruce.
2. Doom is only a bit smarter. Given a month prep Tony could design a Surfer suit that absorbs cosmic energy like he did with Thor.
3. This was not horrible comic writing. This was mentioned in The Infinity Gauntlet (one of the greatest comic storylines of all time) and several other stories.

Tony wins this.

1. Bruce is smarter than Tony for various reasons. Insider Suit, Batman beating Superman, Batman facing Justice League and more explains it ALL. But I might have made a mistake by saying Bruce could beat Silver Surfer with preparation. I apologize.

2. Nope, Doom's intelligence is comparable to Reed Richard's and Tony Stark is NO WHERE near that. Only in Tony's dreams.

3. I don't care if it was one of the greatest comic book story-lines, Dr. Doom defeating a wielder of the Power Cosmic doesn't make sense to me.

4. I followed you due to the arguments you based against me, good job!

@grimlock

prep or no prep. NOPE!

Exactly my point.

1. Insider suit is around as powerful as the Hulk Buster or Thor Buster suit. Batman has never defeated Superman unless Superman gave him the means to. (i.e. Hush) Batman faces Justice League with prep, as Iron Man could face The Avengers with prep. The difference between the both of them is that Bats is always prepping while Tony only preps when he has to.
2. Tony is very close to them. You may not realize this but Dr. Doom is one of Iron Man's villains as well because they are somewhat equal to each other. If Tony could make a suit that absorbs magic, NOTHING is stopping him from working profusely to make a suit that can absorb cosmic energy.
3. Well that's like saying that Batman fighting Supes doesn't make sense in DKR even though it makes perfect sense. You just gotta read the story. Doom made a device with prep (because he is smart) that absorbed Surfer's powers. It's as simple as that and I don't see how you could bash that idea if you just tried to prove that Doom is smart enough to pull something like that off.
4. For anyone else wondering how Tony could win this, I suggest opening up a Iron Man comic. Preferably a Bob Layton one. When Iron Man is taken down by a stronger opponent, he tends to prep for them next round. This time he has a full month of prep to make sure he doesn't lose to Silver Surfer.

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