can batman beat iron man?

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#1  Edited By jay_z94

Just want to know whether it's at least possible. With prep since batman gets fried in a random encounter. Could he use the justice league robots he created, or boom tube gauntlets, nuke etc

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Yes

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Given enough prep sure.

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Seconded.

Motion carries.

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What could batman use against the bleeding edge armour?

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#7  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

Wouldn't Iron Man's technopathy negate everything but the Boom Tube gauntlets?

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what about EMPS, viruses, etc? Would the justice league robots he created be a match for bleeding edge?

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#9  Edited By the_red_viper  Moderator

Batman can beat almost anyone with enough prep, Iron Man included.

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Batman can beat almost anyone with enough prep, Iron Man included.

Lol Batman with 20 years of prep is still not beating Thor.

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#11 the_red_viper  Moderator

@the_red_viper said:

Batman can beat almost anyone with enough prep, Iron Man included.

Lol Batman with 20 years of prep is still not beating Thor.

Hence the "almost".

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So is boom tube gauntlets the only way batman is beating iron man or will EMP or technology virus, etc work aswell?

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#13 juiceboks  Moderator

@jay_z94 I only see boom tube being an option. EMP has been tried and failed. I dont think he can make a virus advanced enough to take down BE armor. He would need Cyborg's help for that.

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#14  Edited By jay_z94

Fair enough, atleast he has one way of taking down iron man with the virus being an option. Does batman have access to a motherbox, i remember reading it somewhere

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Of course he can beat Iron Man with prep!If he beat Superman with it,who's to say he won't beat Iron Man.

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Of course he can beat Iron Man with prep!If he beat Superman with it,who's to say he won't beat Iron Man.

Iron man himself.

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i wonder what the most ruthless place would be to transport iron man via boom tube, lol

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bump

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#19 juiceboks  Moderator

Of course he can beat Iron Man with prep!If he beat Superman with it,who's to say he won't beat Iron Man.

He's never beaten Superman with prep.

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#20  Edited By jay_z94

oh this old thing again..... he has no chance against superman

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he could only stall him at best

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Yes he has.I don't know if he did it in the comics but in Batman:The Dark Knight Returns Part 2 he did.Besides,Batman is ALWAYS prepared for Superman because he always carries Kryptonite in his utility belt.

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why do all batman threads turn into superman vs batman....... it's REALLY old now

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#24 juiceboks  Moderator

@thebatman98 Yea that was a movie that had Superman hurt by a nuke. Not saying it was bad but rather a poor representation of Superman's abilities compared to the comics. Kyptonite isn't always a sure fire way to take down Superman. I mean look at Lex Luthor, Metallo and Kryptonite Man.

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@juiceboks:

Yes he has.I don't know if he did it in the comics but in Batman:The Dark Knight Returns Part 2 he did.Besides,Batman is ALWAYS prepared for Superman because he always carries Kryptonite in his utility belt.

Dark Knight Returns is non-canon. Canon examples would be Hush and Tower of Babel if anything.

In Hush, Superman was mind controlled by Poison Ivy and Batman technically beat him by using Lois, and in Tower of Babel, it was Batman's plans that worked on Superman, although he didn't execute them himself.

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No.

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if u gave them both the same amount of prep than no i doubt he could. How much prep does he get? Iron man's suit has tons of contingencies for almost everything because of all his experience. Batman would need a while still if stark had no prep

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#28  Edited By MonsterStomp

@rudebomberboy01 said:

@the_red_viper said:

Batman can beat almost anyone with enough prep, Iron Man included.

Lol Batman with 20 years of prep is still not beating Thor.

Morals off and he could do it in 5 years.

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@rudebomberboy01 said:

@the_red_viper said:

Batman can beat almost anyone with enough prep, Iron Man included.

Lol Batman with 20 years of prep is still not beating Thor.

Morals off and he could do it in 5 years.

No, he really could not.

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isn't Tony's armor still vulnerable to an emp.

Also couldn't Bruce make a virus to target tony.

He did it to cyborg.

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#31  Edited By SOG7dc

@jay_z94:

with prep he definitely could. batman would not rest until he figured a way to defeat tony. batman is a better tactician and strategist than tony. tony is better at building armors but batman could lead an army with Sherman or MacArthur or Jackson. so tony has contingencies for a lot of thing. but batmans cup of tea would be figuring a way around those contingencies that tony didn't think of. or turning tony's suit against him. batman gets the respect he gets for a reason

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@thebatman98 said:

Of course he can beat Iron Man with prep!If he beat Superman with it,who's to say he won't beat Iron Man.

He's never beaten Superman with prep.

He's never beaten Superman full stop.

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#33  Edited By ndm5

Batman will never beat Iron Man in an even fight. The only way I see Bruce coming out on top, is if he had the jump on Tony, or he had prep and Tony didn't.

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@ndm5: Boom tube gauntlet?

Are there any scans proving an EMP or virus won't work on iron man?

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Batman would win with probably one days prep. Batman developed a batsuit from Amazo absorption cells which allowed him to replicate the powers of martian manhunter's invisibility , WW lasso of truth, sup's strength and laser beams, flash's speed, and green lantern's power ring. the only downside to the suit is its power consumption. So I think bats would cream Ironman in a straight fight with the suit.

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Most people have established that bleeding edge beats the insider suit. I guess the only options are virus, EMP and boom tube gauntlet

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Would iron man survive on apokolips?

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#38  Edited By ndm5

@jay_z94:

If batman gets the boom tube, can we give Tony the Reality Gem? He did have it at one point did he not? Now, i'm not an expert on the boom tube, but is it more powerful than the Reality Gem?

And given prep, Tony would certainly protect himself from Viruses and EMPs. He is not stupid.

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@ndm5: If both have prep it would most likely end in Tony. Also 2 things. 1 While Tony had the reality gem he was later given the space gem and Reed had the reality gem. 2 all of the gems save the time gem are destroyed.

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#40  Edited By jay_z94

Tony always gets the good stuff like infinity gems, extremis virus, lol, without batman's boom tube gauntlet i don't see another way for him beating iron man if he was protected from viruses or EMPs

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#41  Edited By ndm5

@jay_z94:

Which he is protected.

I love Batman, but I don't think he can take Tony here. Tony with prep is serious business, and if he knew he was fighting Batman, Tony would know he has to be 100%

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@ndm5: i love batman too ;) but don't you agree he could get some wins with the boom tube? the point of this thread was to see if it was atleast possible for bruce to win

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@jay_z94:

Certainly, I guess he could win assuming he brings the Boom Tube and Tony doesn't think to bring the Infinity Gems.

I guess my previous statement was a little incorrect, Bruce can beat Tony, but I don't think he will ever take the majority.

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That's fair enough, but i thought the infinity gems were destroyed?

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#45  Edited By jay_z94

Who is the better strategist/tactician? And also, how would the justice league robots batman built do against iron man?

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#46  Edited By ndm5

@jay_z94: In this battle I figured it would be fair to say Tony has the gem, or else it would be really one sided.

And i'd say they are fairly similar when it comes to Strategist/Tactician. Tony is no slouch in that department, and I guess I don't know what robots you are referring to :( I have been away from comicvine for a while so you will have to excuse me, a bit rusty lol.

Just going by what I know of both characters, I would lean towards Tony if it came to a "Robot Army" war or something, the man's most recognizable feature is building armors.

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Yes he can, but I'd still say Iron Man beats him more often than not, prep or not.

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If ironman doesn't know that batman is getting ready too fight him then batman wins. Otherwise ironman wins because he has better plans with his suits and wins if he's got prep

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#49  Edited By catofellow

@monsterstomp said:

@rudebomberboy01 said:

@the_red_viper said:

Batman can beat almost anyone with enough prep, Iron Man included.

Lol Batman with 20 years of prep is still not beating Thor.

Morals off and he could do it in 5 years.

No, he really could not.

Sorry, but if you give any intelligent good guy 5 years prep, they could achieve a non-fatal victory (capture, ko, bfr, surrender) over any other physical being who has no prep.

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#50  Edited By sync1

yes