The problem with a character like SoK is that his upper power limits are not known making it hard to impossible to figure out what/who would beat him. If anyone could, the two you listed certainly have a shot.
"Jesse Custer while possessed by Genesis could have with ease, I personally think the Basanos can and made a thread about it once but others disagreed with me >_> "
well aztek jesse can't really beat SOK, he can stop him from killing him but if SOK was to get a shot off not even jesse could live
"Jesse Custer while possessed by Genesis could have with ease, I personally think the Basanos can and made a thread about it once but others disagreed with me >_> "
well aztek jesse can't really beat SOK, he can stop him from killing him but if SOK was to get a shot off not even jesse could live "
Jesse can control SoK, all he had to do was tell the Saint to blow the trigger on himself "
" Ao can, oh wait he's the TOAA of the D&D multiverse. Vecna can if you let him formulate his Xanatos gambit of doom. "
If you wanna say Ao or Vecna, how about someone like Cthulhu in the HP Lovecraft universe, or Crom in the Conan universe ? But wait, couldn't a super archmage like Elminster himself figure out a way to beat him ?
@DC_Marvel_1000: really? they were used by the angel of death long before SoK... even if SoK is the one who gives them their power, he still would be the one shooting them so they would still work right? Basicly, it comes down to "can god kill himself". this is hard to figure out cuz nobody knows the limits of SoK's power.
"@DC_Marvel_1000: really? they were used by the angel of death long before SoK... even if SoK is the one who gives them their power, he still would be the one shooting them so they would still work right? Basicly, it comes down to "can god kill himself". this is hard to figure out cuz nobody knows the limits of SoK's power. "
yea true enough but it would not be under his own terms to shoot them, i mean the first AOD had to give up his power to SOK for SOK to become SOK and until that the angel of death was still able to do everything saint was but never once did he try to kill himself so idk
Xanatos, formerly a simple Demigod, permanently and fundamentally altered the common laws of physics of his home multiverse, forcing an edition change from 2nd to 3rd all across his home while he was in possession of much greater power. Possibly if he had the time to make a plan and get enough powerful allies, he could defeat SOK with some sort of plot device.
" Xanatos, formerly a simple Demigod, permanently and fundamentally altered the common laws of physics of his home multiverse, forcing an edition change from 2nd to 3rd all across his home while he was in possession of much greater power. Possibly if he had the time to make a plan and get enough powerful allies, he could defeat SOK with some sort of plot device. "
But you never answered if Elminster can defeat SOK.
" Xanatos, formerly a simple Demigod, permanently and fundamentally altered the common laws of physics of his home multiverse, forcing an edition change from 2nd to 3rd all across his home while he was in possession of much greater power. Possibly if he had the time to make a plan and get enough powerful allies, he could defeat SOK with some sort of plot device. "
But you never answered if Elminster can defeat SOK. "
Not familiar with him. What sourcebook and D&D setting is he from? And What edition did he primarily feature in?
" Xanatos, formerly a simple Demigod, permanently and fundamentally altered the common laws of physics of his home multiverse, forcing an edition change from 2nd to 3rd all across his home while he was in possession of much greater power. Possibly if he had the time to make a plan and get enough powerful allies, he could defeat SOK with some sort of plot device. "
But you never answered if Elminster can defeat SOK. "
Not familiar with him. What sourcebook and D&D setting is he from? And What edition did he primarily feature in? "
Are you serious ? You know about Vecna (from Greyhawk), and Ao (from F.R.) but you don't know Elminster, one of the greatest archmages in the D&D universe, and esp. for F.R.
" @ElvaLin: Elminster is awesome, but does magic trump divine power? "
Maybe, but I bet that Elminster's magic will allow him to find sources powerful enough to defeat SOK's divine power. Just give him about a month of prep time, or less.
" @ElvaLin: Elminster is awesome, but does magic trump divine power? "
Lots of Magic can overwhelm Divine power. Or very skillful use of it can, usually finesse triumphs over blunt force unless said blunt force comes from the soviet union, those guys are the masters of overwhelming brute force.
" @ElvaLin: Elminster is awesome, but does magic trump divine power? "
Lots of Magic can overwhelm Divine power. Or very skillful use of it can, usually finesse triumphs over blunt force unless said blunt force comes from the soviet union, those guys are the masters of overwhelming brute force. "
" @ElvaLin: Elminster is awesome, but does magic trump divine power? "
Lots of Magic can overwhelm Divine power. Or very skillful use of it can, usually finesse triumphs over blunt force unless said blunt force comes from the soviet union, those guys are the masters of overwhelming brute force. "
LMAO !!! Good one !!! "
It's cause everything is backwards in soviet russia!
" @ElvaLin: Elminster is awesome, but does magic trump divine power? "
Lots of Magic can overwhelm Divine power. Or very skillful use of it can, usually finesse triumphs over blunt force unless said blunt force comes from the soviet union, those guys are the masters of overwhelming brute force. "
LMAO !!! Good one !!! "
It's cause everything is backwards in soviet russia! "
1) Could a robot, like Ultron, take the bullets from SoK? Since he's not really alive or dead.
2) I heard that a vampire was fine after getting shot since he was undead. Is this true?
3) In case of 2 being right, I could think of numerous characters that could BFR him. Or anyone who's too fast for him to shoot.......they're still bullets, aren't they? It'll just take them a really, really long time for them to reach their target :l
"1) Could a robot, like Ultron, take the bullets from SoK? Since he's not really alive or dead. 2) I heard that a vampire was fine after getting shot since he was undead. Is this true? 3) In case of 2 being right, I could think of numerous characters that could BFR him. Or anyone who's too fast for him to shoot.......they're still bullets, aren't they? It'll just take them a really, really long time for them to reach their target :l "
well the vamp thing was PIS and the maker of preacher even said that that will never happen again
i agree with Strife and Elva Lin: they cannot defeat SOK, since SOK can beat the Beyonder, and the Beyonder is a million times more powerful than all the Celestials combined.
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