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Wow....my first impression was that WWH has a chance....it looks like the general consensus is a serious curbstomp.
" How powerful is a full-powered Cable? Is he basically Xman? I don't think his telekinesis is on the level of Surfer or Jean Grey's Phoenix? I see him doing well against WWHulk but I can't see him being more powerful than Sentry. Even his telepathy wouldn't be enough since even Xavier spoke on how hard it is to get into the Hulk's mind because of the rage. "
" @Baldy said:If he wasn't floating the island and repair damage, and trying to convince surfer to stop attacking he would have owned him." Hulk becomes a green paste on the floor. Hell even Silver Surfer would have been raped if Cable went all out. "Not at all. "
And the Surfer was going all out, at the same time? Obviously not. Being unwilling to speak to Cable doesn't mean the Surfer was giving his all, especially if you've seen him going all out in the past, and that was nothing like it. Cable would have owned nothing. In the end, when Cable frustrated broke the Surfer's board and tossed him away, he stopped holding back. Then the Surfer one shotted him, in his first offensive move in the entire fight. Cable is too frail to stand up to him. Not to mention, Cable keeping up with the Surfer in terms of speed is bad writing in its own right. No version of Cable seen yet can take down the Surfer." @Morpheus_ said:
If he wasn't floating the island and repair damage, and trying to convince surfer to stop attacking he would have owned him. "" @Baldy said:
Not at all. "" Hulk becomes a green paste on the floor. Hell even Silver Surfer would have been raped if Cable went all out. "
" @Baldy said:Because he was drained at that point and he still managed to break the board. Surfer was obviously NOT holding back." @Morpheus_ said:And the Surfer was going all out, at the same time? Obviously not. Cable would have owned nothing. In the end, when Cabel frustrated broke the Surfer's board and tossed him away, he stopped holding back. Then the Surfer one shotted him, in his first offensive move in the entire fight. Cabel is too frail to stand up to him. Not to mention, Cable keeping up with the Surfer in terms of speed is bad writing in its own right. No version of Cable seen yet can take down the Surfer. "" @Baldy said:If he wasn't floating the island and repair damage, and trying to convince surfer to stop attacking he would have owned him. "" Hulk becomes a green paste on the floor. Hell even Silver Surfer would have been raped if Cable went all out. "Not at all. "
" @King Hercules said:
" How powerful is a full-powered Cable? Is he basically Xman? I don't think his telekinesis is on the level of Surfer or Jean Grey's Phoenix? I see him doing well against WWHulk but I can't see him being more powerful than Sentry. Even his telepathy wouldn't be enough since even Xavier spoke on how hard it is to get into the Hulk's mind because of the rage. "
While the Surfer has demonstrated telekinesis on a low degree in the past, I don't think people consider him a telekinetic.
And to answer the question, Cable at his godlike state was simultaneously levitating an entire island, fighting Silver Surfer, and repairing the collateral damages caused by his fight with him. "
He was burning out because his body couldn't take it." @Morpheus_ said:
Because he was drained at that point and he still managed to break the board." @Baldy said:
" @Morpheus_ said:And the Surfer was going all out, at the same time? Obviously not. Cable would have owned nothing. In the end, when Cabel frustrated broke the Surfer's board and tossed him away, he stopped holding back. Then the Surfer one shotted him, in his first offensive move in the entire fight. Cabel is too frail to stand up to him. Not to mention, Cable keeping up with the Surfer in terms of speed is bad writing in its own right. No version of Cable seen yet can take down the Surfer. "" @Baldy said:If he wasn't floating the island and repair damage, and trying to convince surfer to stop attacking he would have owned him. "" Hulk becomes a green paste on the floor. Hell even Silver Surfer would have been raped if Cable went all out. "Not at all. "
Surfer was obviously NOT holding back. "
" That is not the limit of his power as far as I know. It was stated that Xman is what Cable would be if not for the virus. How could he have that much power and not Xman and Stryfe? "I am not sure as to what you are asking here. X-Man has been stated to possess power levels comparable to the Dark Phoenix, so, in terms of raw power, he obviously isn't lacking. I haven't read the late Stryfe appearances to know of his current power level.
" @King Hercules said:
" That is not the limit of his power as far as I know. It was stated that Xman is what Cable would be if not for the virus. How could he have that much power and not Xman and Stryfe? "I am not sure as to what you are asking here. X-Man has been stated to possess power levels comparable to the Dark Phoenix, so, in terms of raw power, he obviously isn't lacking. I haven't read the late Stryfe appearances to know of his current power level. "
" @Morpheus_ said:X-Man was stated to possess power comparable to a Phoenix possessed Jean (or, more accurately, it was mentioned that power at such a level had not been seen since Jean was examined), after being examined by Moira McTaggert.
" @King Hercules said:Maybe I missed some issues with Xman because he never displayed power on a scale of Phoenix. A weaker Cable was able to take him on (even though he could last long) and even Exodus gave him a hard time. Xman is Omega level I know, but how does that put him on levels with cosmic types like the Phoenix? No need to answer that. It just doesn't make sense to me. With the power describe by this Cable, WWHulk can't win. Can't see any Earth bound hero or villain winning. "
" That is not the limit of his power as far as I know. It was stated that Xman is what Cable would be if not for the virus. How could he have that much power and not Xman and Stryfe? "I am not sure as to what you are asking here. X-Man has been stated to possess power levels comparable to the Dark Phoenix, so, in terms of raw power, he obviously isn't lacking. I haven't read the late Stryfe appearances to know of his current power level. "
" @King Hercules said:
" @Morpheus_ said:X-Man was stated to possess power comparable to a Phoenix possessed Jean (or, more accurately, it was mentioned that power at such a level had not been seen since Jean was examined), after being examined by Moira McTaggert. "
" @King Hercules said:Maybe I missed some issues with Xman because he never displayed power on a scale of Phoenix. A weaker Cable was able to take him on (even though he could last long) and even Exodus gave him a hard time. Xman is Omega level I know, but how does that put him on levels with cosmic types like the Phoenix? No need to answer that. It just doesn't make sense to me. With the power describe by this Cable, WWHulk can't win. Can't see any Earth bound hero or villain winning. "
" That is not the limit of his power as far as I know. It was stated that Xman is what Cable would be if not for the virus. How could he have that much power and not Xman and Stryfe? "I am not sure as to what you are asking here. X-Man has been stated to possess power levels comparable to the Dark Phoenix, so, in terms of raw power, he obviously isn't lacking. I haven't read the late Stryfe appearances to know of his current power level. "
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @King Hercules said:Ok. A Phoenix possessed Jean could be her earlier manipulation level of the Phoenix Force before going all dark. This I could see but not the levels of the cosmic Dark Phoenix who destroyed solar systems. "
" @Morpheus_ said:X-Man was stated to possess power comparable to a Phoenix possessed Jean (or, more accurately, it was mentioned that power at such a level had not been seen since Jean was examined), after being examined by Moira McTaggert. "
" @King Hercules said:Maybe I missed some issues with Xman because he never displayed power on a scale of Phoenix. A weaker Cable was able to take him on (even though he could last long) and even Exodus gave him a hard time. Xman is Omega level I know, but how does that put him on levels with cosmic types like the Phoenix? No need to answer that. It just doesn't make sense to me. With the power describe by this Cable, WWHulk can't win. Can't see any Earth bound hero or villain winning. "
" That is not the limit of his power as far as I know. It was stated that Xman is what Cable would be if not for the virus. How could he have that much power and not Xman and Stryfe? "I am not sure as to what you are asking here. X-Man has been stated to possess power levels comparable to the Dark Phoenix, so, in terms of raw power, he obviously isn't lacking. I haven't read the late Stryfe appearances to know of his current power level. "

Cable uses telekinesis to heat the blood of hulk until evaporation
The only way Cable was moving that fast is because Surfer was pushing him that fast and Cable was protecting himself telekinetically. This isn't Surfer vs Cable which the Surfer would very clearly win.
Cable full power would demolish or BFR Hulk with ease.
" @Morpheus_: Thanks but it just doesn't make sense. He should have destroyed Cable, Exodus and Onslaught with no problem if he had that level of power. Even the AOA Apocalypse nearlt beat him. Just doesn't make sense but who am I to argue with the writers. "He was around 14 at that time and had virtually none of the experience of Cable, Exodus and especially not Magneto/Xavier. Raw power isn't everything.
Agreed. As potential for great power doesn't equate actual power, raw power doesn't necessitate the wielder has refinement in its use, respectively." @King Hercules said:
" @Morpheus_: Thanks but it just doesn't make sense. He should have destroyed Cable, Exodus and Onslaught with no problem if he had that level of power. Even the AOA Apocalypse nearlt beat him. Just doesn't make sense but who am I to argue with the writers. "He was around 14 at that time and had virtually none of the experience of Cable, Exodus and especially not Magneto/Xavier. Raw power isn't everything. "
" @Baldy said:Yeah you're probably right. I'm no doubt overestimating his power.He was burning out because his body couldn't take it." @Morpheus_ said:
Because he was drained at that point and he still managed to break the board." @Baldy said:
" @Morpheus_ said:And the Surfer was going all out, at the same time? Obviously not. Cable would have owned nothing. In the end, when Cabel frustrated broke the Surfer's board and tossed him away, he stopped holding back. Then the Surfer one shotted him, in his first offensive move in the entire fight. Cabel is too frail to stand up to him. Not to mention, Cable keeping up with the Surfer in terms of speed is bad writing in its own right. No version of Cable seen yet can take down the Surfer. "" @Baldy said:If he wasn't floating the island and repair damage, and trying to convince surfer to stop attacking he would have owned him. "" Hulk becomes a green paste on the floor. Hell even Silver Surfer would have been raped if Cable went all out. "Not at all. "
Surfer was obviously NOT holding back. "
Which is why he didn't even punch, or blast Cable in the entire fight, right? Seriously. The Surfer destroyed a planet to teach someone a lesson, but I am supposed to believe that was a fully unrestrained Surfer, going all out? Please. He was merciless because he was thinking of Cable's parallel to Galactus. But he wasn't going all out. Not even close.
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" @Morpheus_ said:I think you were underrating the Surfer, more than anything. Cable is still insanely powerful, and we are in agreement, he does win this fight with ease." @Baldy said:Yeah you're probably right. I'm no doubt overestimating his power. He still owns Hulk though. "He was burning out because his body couldn't take it." @Morpheus_ said:
Because he was drained at that point and he still managed to break the board." @Baldy said:
" @Morpheus_ said:And the Surfer was going all out, at the same time? Obviously not. Cable would have owned nothing. In the end, when Cabel frustrated broke the Surfer's board and tossed him away, he stopped holding back. Then the Surfer one shotted him, in his first offensive move in the entire fight. Cabel is too frail to stand up to him. Not to mention, Cable keeping up with the Surfer in terms of speed is bad writing in its own right. No version of Cable seen yet can take down the Surfer. "" @Baldy said:If he wasn't floating the island and repair damage, and trying to convince surfer to stop attacking he would have owned him. "" Hulk becomes a green paste on the floor. Hell even Silver Surfer would have been raped if Cable went all out. "Not at all. "
Surfer was obviously NOT holding back. "
Which is why he didn't even punch, or blast Cable in the entire fight, right? Seriously. The Surfer destroyed a planet to teach someone a lesson, but I am supposed to believe that was a fully unrestrained Surfer, going all out? Please. He was merciless because he was thinking of Cable's parallel to Galactus. But he wasn't going all out. Not even close.
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" @King Hercules said:Who says he was 14? I know he wasn't 14 when he was fighting Cable and Exodus. Or when he was dealing with Onslaught." @Morpheus_: Thanks but it just doesn't make sense. He should have destroyed Cable, Exodus and Onslaught with no problem if he had that level of power. Even the AOA Apocalypse nearlt beat him. Just doesn't make sense but who am I to argue with the writers. "He was around 14 at that time and had virtually none of the experience of Cable, Exodus and especially not Magneto/Xavier. Raw power isn't everything. "
" @Dane said:X-Man issue number #50 he is stated to be 'only 16' by Emma Frost. He fought Exodus long before that and was visibly younger. 14 is a guess but it's a pretty good one. You missed the entire point though, he was a teenager and he was very untrained. Cable, Exodus and Onslaught are some of the most power, well trained and experience mutants of all time." @King Hercules said:Who says he was 14? I know he wasn't 14 when he was fighting Cable and Exodus. Or when he was dealing with Onslaught. "" @Morpheus_: Thanks but it just doesn't make sense. He should have destroyed Cable, Exodus and Onslaught with no problem if he had that level of power. Even the AOA Apocalypse nearlt beat him. Just doesn't make sense but who am I to argue with the writers. "He was around 14 at that time and had virtually none of the experience of Cable, Exodus and especially not Magneto/Xavier. Raw power isn't everything. "
Thanks cracks, we needed you to announce that Cable is a cyborg. The thing he's literally been since he was created.
Also I was referring to Magneto and Xavier making up Onslaught as you may care to read earlier and Exodus is a mutant and has always been treated as such.
" @Dane: Really? What natural and innate mutant powers was Exodus born with? Apocalypse basically gave him all of his powers. "The same powers he has. He manifested them for the first time before his direct encounter with Apocalypse. At best his powers were 'unlocked' by Apocalypse. I don't think he was enhanced by the celestial technology that enhanced Apocalypse himself. Otherwise he would, at the very least, have enhanced physical abilities like Stryfe had after Apocalypse genetically enhanced him.
Dane says, "The same powers he has."
No! Exodus does not have complete control over his body on the cellular and molecular level. Exodus can not grow to nigh infinite sizes. Exodus does not have technopathy. Exodus does not have energy absorption or energy manipulation. Exodus can not shape shift. Exodus can not make himself intangible and Exodus can not phase. %Pr
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