Cable vs Martian Manhunter

" @Silver2467: When I bring up the Cable and Silver Surfer instance, i'm not saying Cable beat Surfer, i'm showing an instance, rightly shown as the very first post, that Cable had the ability to unleash the speed and power to smash the Silver Surfer's indestructible board, which is celestially based.  The fact that i've been stating here over and over is that even though I acknowledge the fact that the Martian Manhunter has a definite advantage, that does not mean he would win, just because he is physically stronger, or faster.  In comics, The Joker defeated The Hulk, Lex Luthor has defeated Superman, a random Skrull defeated The Sentry.  All of these examples should cue you in on a very important detail; you don't have to match your foe in ability to beat them.  Cable's taken his share of beatings, but he's also come out on top against a hell of a lot of stacked odds. 
 
I don't understand why you believe that Cable would absolutely never penetrate the Manhunters mind, if Manhunter himself has admitted that his weakness and fear of fire are mentally based? That should clue you in that he has a vulnerability that has been exploited before, numerous times.  Whereas Cable, a mutant who has been able to delve into The Hulk's mind, shield against the likes of Onslaught, a being with the TP powers of Xavier and X-Man.  To try and ignore Cable's TP abilities when the base of this battle is when Cable unleashes his full power and ability, a power comparable to a God, that's so powerful it starts to destroy his body from within, and you can sit there and with an honest face try and say that Manhunter just brushes that all aside? Normally, Manhunter would have the advantage over Cable, i've said this I don't know how many times, but not the Cable that's unleashed his full mutant potential.  Manhunter, even with his incredible speed and strength, would have to smash through a TK barrier just to get to Cable, and Cable would sure as hell see that coming.  If Cable is unleashing this desperation and actually unleashing his abilities, it pretty much is the equivalent of X-Man vs. Manhunter, because we all know by now that Cable is the Nathan Grey of his own reality.  Manhunter, with all the odds stacked against Cable, wouldn't, probably couldn't kill Manhunter, not with his regenerating abilities, but this is about who would win, and Cable could KO Manhunter briefly, it's been done plenty of times. "

"stalemate"

" @Silver2467: I don't see how you're not getting the point, or reading what i'm saying.  He would counter the invisibility by either becoming invisible himself or avoiding him with a TK barrier while sensing his psiprint.  That pretty much sums up your invisibility argument, not only a barrier to get through, but having your opponent in turn become invisible? Pretty much crashes the invisible party.  Intangibility? I don't even see what you're getting at there, if you're intangible, all you're doing is floating there while obviously long-range assaults would be of no use, and Cable, not being a complete idiot, would realize this, and focus on psi-attacks until he became tangible, so that's your explanation for intangibility, waiting and strategizing for him to become tangible, because as long as he's intangible, he's not much to deal with, intangibility is a defensive technique, not an offensive technique.  Obviously.  Whining about being faster than light and whipping around like a DBZ villain is easily avoided if you simply teleport a distance away, sense his psi-print and the area which he is located, however brief, and simply stay out of range, it's as simple as that and it crushes your whirly-gig technique.  Cable doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to know to stay out of someone's range if they're crazily trying to hit you, that's pretty much common sense, fictional or not.  As stated before, it would take just one vulnerable moment of tangibility and distraction, maybe after teleporting, Cable tosses a flash grenade randomly as a distraction, in which Manhunter would be distracted, because as previously stated, Manhunter wouldn't be able to penetrate Cable's mind any way, so he's pretty much clueless at this point, so while Manhunter is just for that brief, tiny, vulnerable little moment tosses a gaze over to that grenade going off? Cable teleports above him, and whails on the top of his head with the same attack he used on Surfer's board, which would cause Manhunter to become a crater, and Cable to have the upper hand, which would be a victory.  Now that all of your scoffing of Manhunter's techniques have been squashed, I think it's safe to say that unless this was a fight to the very death that lasted as long as it had to unless one of them simply left, that Cable has more than enough capability in his arsenal and unleashed power to hold the Martian at bay, even with everything he has. "

Martian Manhunter.

There is no way the Martian wins this one. What people fail to realize is cable is as smart as Reed Richards, and he is on par with professor x when it comes to being a telepath and is one of the best when it comes to psychic power. He is a master strategist that only can be rivaled by few. I believe even with a all out blitz cable still will be able to handle the Martian, and cable weapons are far superior to weaponry that manhunter has come against. Psychically Martian doesn't compares with cable, we are talking about a man that was holding his ship up with his psychic power and still giving silver surfer a match. I believe that If he did go all out on the surfer that he may have won. What can manhunts possibly do to that cable hasn't seen from the likes of sinister, hulk, bishop, surfer, magneto, apocalypse, or onslaught. I just don't see it and the names I just gave you are people that pretty much have manhunters abilities and they all were beat or have come to a draw against cable.

@JediXMan said:

Cable wins pretty easily.

cable wins he is smarter more skilled just can hold his own in telepathy to take down mm.

People tend to forget that. It was a pretty big island too.

MM.

@sethlol:

how

Martian Manhunter wins.

@raw_material:

why

A word called "superiority" might be able to sum it all up.

I think this was addressed some two years ago. Big island is good and all but a third of the earth's mass being pulled out of orbit is leagues above it. And if one can argue that that isn't canon anymore, think about this, current MM stalemated a JLA team that involved current Superman who can benchpress the weight of the earth.

Cable wins with the infinite loops of AHVB. Injustice is the only decent dc fighting game and MM isn't even in it

@hyperviper97: He'll be DLC just you wait.

Why does everyone say MM helped move a planet with WW and superman when they didn't even do it? Kyle did it.

@ssejllenrad: but mmh was not fighting the silversurfer at the same time.

Last time I checked, Kyle didn't look like a green martian.

You might be thinking of this revisioning of a silver age arc.. That's not even Kyle. That's Hal.

A bloodlusted MMH is this...



So yeah, he should win this.

After reading this entire thread, this is what I got from the two actually debating:

Silver: No, Cable can't do this and Cable can't do that. It's impossible. Martian Manhunter wins!

Progenitor: Cable can do many things, some may hit, some may miss.

I tend not to agree with people claim one character can't do something to another character, but the latter can do anything to the former.

In this case, Cable can do a hell of a lot to Martian Manhunter. Cable wins.

People also tend to forget that at the same time of holding the island up AND fighting against Surfer, both Cable and Surfer were rebuilding a city they continuously demolished as they fought.

If by "fought", you mean "annoyed Surfer for a while until he one-shotted Cable with ease", sure...........

J'onn punches his head off before he can blink.

J'onn should win.

Someone please post a scan of who really moved the planet please,,I can't post scans but its getting very annoying when people say its was these three when Kyle rayner was the one who showed up and did it.

It was already posted. The image is of Green Lantern and Superman (the first time, Superman received help from Green Lantern). Then the more recent one is of Superman, Martian Manhunter, and Wonder Woman.

because surfer beat him means he can't beat manhunter last i checked surfer could do the same to manhunter.

Martian Manhunter

@sharkbearagator: I wish ;(. Lobo, scorpion, Zod, Batgirl is all thats coming in the near future

He could, but not as easily.

Regardless, MM wins.

@comicstooge:

pretty much just as easily and I assume cable would have faired a little better then he did if he wasn't holding up the island and occupied by other things make no mistake about it surfer would own both easily especially if he got mad.

This isn't about Silver Surfer, regardless.

MM blitzes him.

@hyperviper97: Did they confirm the rumors true.

@comicstooge:

how surfer didn't and he is faster than mm and cable was distracted and the blitz isn't really his style even if he could.

Cable stuffs him into one of his many pouches.

MM is bloodlusted, meaning he will in fact blitz him.

Surfer didn't because he wasn't trying all that hard. Being a pacifist at heart, he tends to hold back.

manhunter goes intangible and snatches vables heart out at speeds tgat cable could not comprehend

Cable oone of the greatest challange for his rivals... But MM to much for him ı think
Faster
Stronger
Smarter
Most Skilled
More Usefull Power House

Cable's TP > Xavier's > Martian's. And I don't see why Martian should use any other power than TP from the start, even in bloodlust.

@prince_of_saiyans said:

Fight at Cell Games

Blood Lust on

Its this Cable:

IS THAT SS O.O did cable just smacked Silver Surfer O.O

@king_saturn: Honestly, why do you always side with DC characters?

cable ol buddy