Cable (Classic) versus Bullseye

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#1  Edited By Recoil1985

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Where and when?

A war-torn city. Buildings are partially destroyed and the streets are littered with piles of debris, destroyed vehicles and much more. It's 3pm and the location is unpopulated. They begin visible and a block apart.

What?

This is a random encounter and both combatants are in character. This is de-powered Cable. He's armed with a standard assortment of firearms and blades. Bullseye is well armed as well. He has his usual set of projectiles (shurikens, daggers, throwing knives), twin sais and basic firearms. A character loses if they are knocked out, incapacitated or killed.

Why?

Please use feats and scans to support your pick.

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Spite. Cable stomps.

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#3  Edited By Recoil1985
@venomoushatred1001 said:

Spite. Cable stomps.

Why? 
Please use feats and scans to support your pick. 


Can you please elaborate? 
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#4  Edited By dane

Cable would wreck.
 
A) Cable's durability due to his unconscious telekinetics (as seen against Warmachine, Hulk, etc) and his T-O reinforced skeleton is considerable since the best Bullseye has is small arms.
B) Cable's cybernetic eye and telepathy would give him fore-warning to any projectiles coming his way.
C) Cable's 10 ton strength on his cybernetic arm means he would one-shot Lester up close and he's tagged people with superhuman agility (Deadpool) with ease, so there's that.
 
Depowered Cable might be a better match-up but still not a good one.

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#5  Edited By TheSuperHuman

Cable, I sense a spite.

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#6  Edited By tg1982

@Dane said:

Cable would wreck.

A) Cable's durability due to his unconscious telekinetics (as seen against Warmachine, Hulk, etc) and his T-O reinforced skeleton is considerable since the best Bullseye has is small arms.

B) Cable's cybernetic eye and telepathy would give him fore-warning to any projectiles coming his way.

C) Cable's 10 ton strength on his cybernetic arm means he would one-shot Lester up close and he's tagged people with superhuman agility (Deadpool) with ease, so there's that.

Depowered Cable might be a better match-up but still not a good one.

Don't forget Cable's ability to shoot lasers out his T-O fingers, not that he'd need it, but still, more fuel for the fire.

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Cable, I sense a spite.

me, too.

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#7  Edited By Recoil1985

Fine, de-powered Cable it is. OP will be updated to reflect this.

And for those claiming it was some kind of an intentional spite, I had "For the sake of balance, his powers are at a bare minimum" for a reason. The implication was that the powers wouldn't be a factor but he would have his gear from that era.

I understand Cable holds the potential to win in close range with his superior strength, but I made this a range battle for a reason. I know in the past Cable dove out of the way of two or so blasts from War Machine, a few from Sinsear, so on and so on, but what has he done to show that he'll be fine dealing with a well armed Lester, a character that has been able to barrage the likes of Captain America (Streets of Poison) and Spider-Man (Peter Parker: Spider-Man) when given a fair amount of distance such as here?

And his durability means he'll likely survive the encounter, but I've never seen him prove immune to such damage before. I fail to see why Lester's attacks would be null and void here.

And to clarify, Bullseye's "basic firearms" include the likes of pistols, shotguns and assault rifles. This is in combination with all of the bladed projectiles he has, as well as whatever the rubble has to offer his hands. Since Cable is modern, his arsenal will now reflect that. He'll have an assortment of pistols, submachine guns and assault rifles.

And one more thing... a spite? Let's try to restrict that term for when a character literally has impossibly difficult odds of winning. I sincerely doubt that's the case here.

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#8  Edited By Recoil1985

Does anyone else think this would be fun to watch or am I apparently crazy for believing it's not a blatant stomp?

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#9  Edited By jeanroygrant

Cable.

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cable stomps with ease

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#11  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Almighty_Darkseid said:

cable stomps with ease

How? He's not that much more skilled than Bullseye, if at all and he's depowered. 
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#12  Edited By ghost_rider1

A depowered cable?? Bullseye has a chance to kill him.

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#13  Edited By deadpool6_6_6

bullseye is bettter trained so im going with him.

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#14  Edited By ghost_rider1
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I agree. Bullseye would kill him if cable is depowered
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#15  Edited By deadpool6_6_6

@deadpool2421 said:

@deadpool6_6_6

I agree. Bullseye would kill him if cable is depowered

bullseye is to over powered compared to him.

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#16  Edited By Recoil1985

Now to see if this can actually turn into a debate instead of just name listing ;)

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#17  Edited By Kinasin_

@jeanroygrant said:

Cable.

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#18  Edited By Recoil1985

I'm tired of these mother fudgin' Viners listin' mother fudgin' names in my mother fudgin' thread meant for a debate!

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#19  Edited By Enosisik

Spite both ways 

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#20  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Battle forums are dead.

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#21  Edited By Recoil1985

@Vance Astro said:

Battle forums are dead.

So it would seem :(

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Back before cable had all the other mental powers and things, like Classic X-force 28 and before, his power was that he has a bigger gun than you do. On top of that he has MANY years more experience, is at the very least just as skilled in HTH, it would go like this...

They square off, cable gets hit and is hurt but lives, Bullseys has a 1 foot wide smoking hole in his chest.

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#23  Edited By mavfan626

Classic depowered Cable would lose Bullseye, I don't know why everyone is saying Cable would win. Bullseye skills and aim with a firearms are easily superior to Cable's. Once Bullseye see's Cable, Cable will die. Bullseye has made a car explode with a hub cap, shot a man on a horse full gallop in the eye, deflected a bullet with his hand cuffs and more. I also bet that more then half the people in this thread have read next to nil of classic Cable.

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#24  Edited By Recoil1985

@mavfan626 said:

Classic depowered Cable would lose Bullseye, I don't know why everyone is saying Cable would win. Bullseye skills and aim with a firearms are easily superior to Cable's. Once Bullseye see's Cable, Cable will die. Bullseye has made a car explode with a hub cap, shot a man on a horse full gallop in the eye, deflected a bullet with his hand cuffs and more. I also bet that more then half the people in this thread have read next to nil of classic Cable.

Both are great issues for Lester (DD 181 and his death in Shadowland).

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#25  Edited By MenaceForever2

@Dane: he is de-powered or did he edit it

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#26  Edited By dane
@menaceforever: I suspect editing.
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#27  Edited By Recoil1985

@menaceforever said:

@Dane: he is de-powered or did he edit it

@Dane said:

@menaceforever: I suspect editing.

I made a post about it on page 1.

Fine, de-powered Cable it is. OP will be updated to reflect this.
And for those claiming it was some kind of an intentional spite, I had "For the sake of balance, his powers are at a bare minimum" for a reason. The implication was that the powers wouldn't be a factor but he would have his gear from that era.
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#28  Edited By dane
@Recoil1985: I think Bullseye would probs take it, but not easily.