Random encounter who wins?
hard to pick really good fight though i think punsher with all his toys grenades flash bangs m16 9m guns would take it, u add bats toys the streets would be a hazard knocking out cap and bullseye out. from there pun would unload and clip bats and winner pun as he leaves to get into his battle van
Captain America.Bullseye can't even beat Daredevil,The Punisher won't fight Captain America,and Batman can't take hits from a shield that made a mess out of Iron Man's suit.
which is why pun would use flash bang and bats with tear gas and knock out gas pun would never have to hit cap and he would focus on bats and bullseye.
"which is why pun would use flash bang and bats with tear gas and knock out gas pun would never have to hit cap and he would focus on bats and bullseye."Punisher can't flash bang anything.He doesn't carry those and he doesn't have knock out gas either.
bats does carry them tear gas and knockout gas as in the civil war pun had flash grenades when he cap were fighting molten man :p
I see them ganging up and taking out Bullseye first, he is the only villain here. Let's face it the rest are heroes or anti-heroes of some fashion they have more in common. So Bullseye would be the first to go down.
Punisher is not on the level Bats or Cap is with fighting or tactics or raw physical and mental ability. So I see him going down next. Leaving Batman and Captain America left standing.
The fight Between these two would just determine who took more of a beating earlier and who is first or make one count. I personally think besdies intelligence Cap has Batman beat in all categories, though that can be argued and debated. I'll give the slight advantage to Cap for the win as the shield is not only a great offensice but defensive weapon.
Batman beat Bullseye in Marvel VS DC #1, I'd give it to Batman after that, unless we are talking Steve not Bucky as far as Cap goes
I think its the original Cap (Steve). But I'm not a 100%
I still say Batman wins. He's already set up to take down multiple opponents with one offensive strike (knock out gas). Its part of his standard equipment. Kinda like Cap and his shield.
"I think its the original Cap (Steve). But I'm not a 100%If it's Bucky..Batman dies.
I still say Batman wins. He's already set up to take down multiple opponents with one offensive strike (knock out gas). Its part of his standard equipment. Kinda like Cap and his shield."
I'm serious lol.
"Gambler said:Agreed."I think its the original Cap (Steve). But I'm not a 100%If it's Bucky..Batman dies."
I still say Batman wins. He's already set up to take down multiple opponents with one offensive strike (knock out gas). Its part of his standard equipment. Kinda like Cap and his shield."
"Has Bucky as Cap really kicked it up a notch? I mean I know he is more ruthless and all. Before yall said that I was thinking if it is Bucky Cap then Batman wins."Yes.He is walking pwnage.
"Has Bucky as Cap really kicked it up a notch? I mean I know he is more ruthless and all. Before yall said that I was thinking if it is Bucky Cap then Batman wins."I think Bucky would be more likely to take Batman down than Steve.
I am going to go against the grain and say Bullseye. This isnt comics so we wont take into accoun tthat he is a villain....anything is a weapon in this guys hands. I think in the right situation he could kill them all. Out of all of them he has the least problem with killing which gives him an advantage.
Any reason as to why Bullseye is automatically counted out?
"I am going to go against the grain and say Bullseye. This isnt comics so we wont take into accoun tthat he is a villain....anything is a weapon in this guys hands. I think in the right situation he could kill them all. Out of all of them he has the least problem with killing which gives him an advantage."After Daredevil beat him with a broken arm..I doubt he could even beat the Punisher.Not having a problem with killing is only an advantage if the people your fighting actually cared if they went as far as to kill you if they had too.The Punisher kills someone in almost ever book...I saw him headshot a dude and the book never even said the guy did anything wrong.I think Cap wins this....I don't think Batman's weaponry will make a difference because once Cap gets in a few blows with that sheild..Batman is going to sleep.We all know Batman doesn't turn down a h2h with anyone.Unless they already owned him (i.e. Prometheus)
"What all has he done to make the difference? (I haven't been keeping track on what's happened with him)"
"Any reason as to why Bullseye is automatically counted out?"Well..let's see...The Punisher already beat him,Batman is a way better fighter than the Punisher and he's smarter,and Cap losing to Bullseye is ridiculous.Bullseye gets owned repeatedly by a guy who actually ran from Cap.
We all know Batman doesn't turn down a h2h with anyone.Unless they already owned him (i.e. Prometheus)Maybe in a one on one situation, and in the comics. This is a battle thread. If Batman needed to kill to survive he would, if he had to use his gadgets to survive he would. He's not gonna go into a free for all with opponents who have guns, shields, knives, etc etc, and go toe to toe with em. He'd use his gadgets and tactics and for go the hand to hand.
"Vance Astro said:I'm not saying Batman wouldn't kill to survive but if the Punisher and Bullseye are taken out and Cap and Batman are left...I believe Batman would be likely to go h2h with Cap,rather than using a gadget or weapon.We all know Batman doesn't turn down a h2h with anyone.Unless they already owned him (i.e. Prometheus)Maybe in a one on one situation, and in the comics. This is a battle thread. If Batman needed to kill to survive he would, if he had to use his gadgets to survive he would. He's not gonna go into a free for all with opponents who have guns, shields, knives, etc etc, and go toe to toe with em. He'd use his gadgets and tactics and for go the hand to hand."
Ehh Bulls Eye is Daredevil's main villain...he was created to lose,...in this battle you take away those rules of comics so you cannot compare them based on who beat who....you have to compare based on abilities and feats and powers.
"Gambler said:Oh I see what you're saying. Depends. If he saw that metal arm or was getting tossed around I think he'd resort to using gadgets."Vance Astro said:I'm not saying Batman wouldn't kill to survive but if the Punisher and Bullseye are taken out and Cap and Batman are left...I believe Batman would be likely to go h2h with Cap,rather than using a gadget or weapon."We all know Batman doesn't turn down a h2h with anyone.Unless they already owned him (i.e. Prometheus)Maybe in a one on one situation, and in the comics. This is a battle thread. If Batman needed to kill to survive he would, if he had to use his gadgets to survive he would. He's not gonna go into a free for all with opponents who have guns, shields, knives, etc etc, and go toe to toe with em. He'd use his gadgets and tactics and for go the hand to hand."
"TheDrifter said:Bullseye took down Gambit."Any reason as to why Bullseye is automatically counted out?"Well..let's see...The Punisher already beat him,Batman is a way better fighter than the Punisher and he's smarter,and Cap losing to Bullseye is ridiculous.Bullseye gets owned repeatedly by a guy who actually ran from Cap."
"Ehh Bulls Eye is Daredevil's main villain...he was created to lose,...in this battle you take away those rules of comics so you cannot compare them based on who beat who....you have to compare based on abilities and feats and powers."Ok but he lost to the Punisher too and he's not the Punisher's main villain.None of his abilities will do him any good here.Cap,Batman & The Punisher are very good at dodging.Bullseye is a good fighter but not on the level of anyone here but the Punisher....who has far better feats than Bullseye,
"Vance Astro said:And you think that makes sense why?"TheDrifter said:Bullseye took down Gambit."Any reason as to why Bullseye is automatically counted out?"Well..let's see...The Punisher already beat him,Batman is a way better fighter than the Punisher and he's smarter,and Cap losing to Bullseye is ridiculous.Bullseye gets owned repeatedly by a guy who actually ran from Cap."
Everything around him is Standard Equipment"
Yea...you are mostly correct although I can see him taking out any of them from behind if they are already engaged in a battle. If he has the element of surprise I could still see him having a good chance of killing any of these guys
"Vance Astro said:Only way Bucky's arm would be exposed is if his costume was ripped,I don't think anyone is going to rip a steel costume."Gambler said:Oh I see what you're saying. Depends. If he saw that metal arm or was getting tossed around I think he'd resort to using gadgets.""Vance Astro said:I'm not saying Batman wouldn't kill to survive but if the Punisher and Bullseye are taken out and Cap and Batman are left...I believe Batman would be likely to go h2h with Cap,rather than using a gadget or weapon."We all know Batman doesn't turn down a h2h with anyone.Unless they already owned him (i.e. Prometheus)Maybe in a one on one situation, and in the comics. This is a battle thread. If Batman needed to kill to survive he would, if he had to use his gadgets to survive he would. He's not gonna go into a free for all with opponents who have guns, shields, knives, etc etc, and go toe to toe with em. He'd use his gadgets and tactics and for go the hand to hand."
"Yea...you are mostly correct although I can see him taking out any of them from behind if they are already engaged in a battle. If he has the element of surprise I could still see him having a good chance of killing any of these guys"Well the only reason the Punisher hasn't killed Bullseye yet is because he's bound by writing.He could have easily blown his head off already.
"TheDrifter said:Did he have the dream in 616? :PBullseye took down Gambit.lol nice. But technically that was a dream Gambit had."
Everything around him is Standard Equipment"



Only way Bucky's arm would be exposed is if his costume was ripped,I don't think anyone is going to rip a steel costume."Its really not important if Batman actually sees the arm. If Bucky starts tossing him around like someone of his size shouldn't be able to do, Bats is going to react the same way he does when Killer Croc, Bane, WW, Superman, Darkseid, etc etc, start overpowering him, he'll level the playing field. If that means hitting Cap with a flash bang to gather his compuser, or hitting him with some knock out gas, then he will.
"Vance Astro said:Bucky doesn't use his arm for tossing..just punching and electrical charges.He punched a whole in a version of Ultimo so one hit is taking Batman's head off.All the guys you just named aren't going to kill him because of writing and what not.Killer Croc could easily choke the sh#t outta Bruce...but instead he tosses him which will buy him time.Typical bad guy jobbing.Bane too...Bane wants to play around and show is superior wrestling ability and then Batman sons him.He can try the knock out gas or what ever is in his belt..I don't think he'll have time..Bucky has a ton of options just like Batman does.Only way Bucky's arm would be exposed is if his costume was ripped,I don't think anyone is going to rip a steel costume."Its really not important if Batman actually sees the arm. If Bucky starts tossing him around like someone of his size shouldn't be able to do, Bats is going to react the same way he does when Killer Croc, Bane, WW, Superman, Darkseid, etc etc, start tossing him around, he'll level the playing field. If that means hitting Cap with a flash bang to gather his compuser, or hitting him with some knock out gas, then he will.
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"Bucky's never grabbed someone, never thrown someone? I find that hard to believe. You use the the bad writing excuse a lil to often. Not saying Superman not curbstomping a Kryptonite free Batman isn't bad writing. But people don't always go for the kill shot on the first swing. Bucky's first punch being one that will take Batman's head off is doubtful. By the time it came down to the last two (In this case Bats and Cap) he will have seen him in action. Not so much studied him, but I'm sure he would have gotten glimpses of what he can do. Its not like he's gonna stand their and let Cap punch his head off.Gambler said:""Vance Astro said:Bucky doesn't use his arm for tossing..just punching and electrical charges.He punched a whole in a version of Ultimo so one hit is taking Batman's head off.All the guys you just named aren't going to kill him because of writing and what not.Killer Croc could easily choke the sh#t outta Bruce...but instead he tosses him which will buy him time.Typical bad guy jobbing.Bane too...Bane wants to play around and show is superior wrestling ability and then Batman sons him.He can try the knock out gas or what ever is in his belt..I don't think he'll have time..Bucky has a ton of options just like Batman does.Only way Bucky's arm would be exposed is if his costume was ripped,I don't think anyone is going to rip a steel costume."Its really not important if Batman actually sees the arm. If Bucky starts tossing him around like someone of his size shouldn't be able to do, Bats is going to react the same way he does when Killer Croc, Bane, WW, Superman, Darkseid, etc etc, start tossing him around, he'll level the playing field. If that means hitting Cap with a flash bang to gather his compuser, or hitting him with some knock out gas, then he will.
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"Gambler said:Yup. Wanna see the scan?"TheDrifter said:Did he have the dream in 616? :PBullseye took down Gambit.lol nice. But technically that was a dream Gambit had."
Everything around him is Standard Equipment"
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