Buffy vs Phoebe Halliwell
VS
Fight takes place in the Underworld. No potions, weapons. Phoebe has all her powers (including Empathy and Leviation) and both girls have their max. agility. No prep time and both have strong morals.
I will give this to Buffy. Phoebe is capable fighter but not on the same level as Buffy and I don't see how her powers will help her in this fight unless she can somehow channel Buffy's powers with her empathy which I doubt. Levitation may give help her a bit in this fight but I believe that Buffy can still take her.
True" @hydrabob: Actually in several episodes they showed that they have very decent fighting skills, well at least Phoebe, Paige and Prue although not close to Buffy. Piper didn't rely on physical combat a lot. "
Phoebe could possibly channel Buffy's powers, but would only be able to block it. Her levitation could come in handy, plus her premonition, which means she could anticipate Buffy's every move.
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@ queenfrost_Phoebe never could anticipate opponents moves with her premonition power and Buffy has defeated a telepath before !!! I think what gives phoebe a chance is her talent with writing spells, she was always the best. But Buffy could easily knock her out with one punch!!!
BUffy wins she's stronger and a better fighter!
" @ComicMan24 said:Phoebe has never used her empathy to channel physical powers. If she did use her levitation she isn't as fast as Buffy and at some point she would have to come back down.. Also she has to touch something to get her premonitions. And they aren't that accurate where they would depict the whole battle enough where she could have a play by play book.......................and even if she did I doubt she could actually block Buffy.True Phoebe could possibly channel Buffy's powers, but would only be able to block it. Her levitation could come in handy, plus her premonition, which means she could anticipate Buffy's every move. Phoebe "" @hydrabob: Actually in several episodes they showed that they have very decent fighting skills, well at least Phoebe, Paige and Prue although not close to Buffy. Piper didn't rely on physical combat a lot. "
if phoebe has the chance to get a spell off i would give it to her. buffy is the superior combatant tho. so if phoebe does not do a spell buffy will stomp.
Phoebe would put up a good fight and Phoebe has used her empathy powers to channel telekenisis and fireballs before...Even though Phoebe has no prep time she does have a few good spells locked up in her head.
Yeah, she channeled those but as SoS said she never used her empathy to channel a physical ability so we don't know if this is even possible. As for the spells,Phoebe doesn't normally uses them in battles except vanquishing spells plus trying to think of a spell while trying to avoid a punch isn't the easiest thing in the world. Also isn't the use of the spells in this battle unfair for Buffy?
" Phoebe would put up a good fight and Phoebe has used her empathy powers to channel telekenisis and fireballs before...Even though Phoebe has no prep time she does have a few good spells locked up in her head. "Against a Slayer............not a chance. She's NEVER used her empathy to replicate those type of powers. As a matter of fact I don't think she could. The only reason she can channel TK and FB is because she taps into their emotions(which in the Charmed universe is the "source/key" to their power) this isn't the case with Slayer power. Buffy has worked with witches before. I think she knows what a spell sounds like. And even if Phoebe could pull off some hits I doubt it would even make a scratch on Buffy. She routinely takes punches from Vamps(among other things) and doesn't have a scratch on her. What chance will someone of HUMAN strength do? On the other hand one good punch from Buffy and Phoebe has a broken jaw. Good luck with the spells then.
Phoebe could easily recite spells under her breath. Plus, Phoebe has fought endless DEMONS, remember? She's survived many hits from them so she could put up a fight against Buffy. If Phoebe can resist fireball and energy ball attacks, she can resist Buffy.
" @Son Of Storm: Urm, okay? Phoebe could easily recite spells under her breath. Plus, Phoebe has fought endless DEMONS, remember? She's survived many hits from them so she could put up a fight against Buffy. If Phoebe can resist fireball and energy ball attacks, she can resist Buffy. "Well the spell couldn't be too lethal since they both have "strong morals". Yes she's fought endless demons with her sisters that can freeze/accelerate molecules and telekinesis. She's been killed by an energy ball. While Buffy has been shot with a lethal teaser but it's only melted her shoes. There is a difference between energy attacks and physical attacks.
(33:36) Resisting fireball attacks-No.
(15:20)Resisting energy ball attacks-No.
And yes, they would have strong morals, but Phoebe could use the Banshee spell, the turn into an animal spell or even steal her powers spell.
I wouldn't call it so much a resistance. More like sloppy writing. I mean in some epsodes, demons would completely annilate someone with their fire and energy balls and in others, only caused some burns. IIRC, there is no Banshee spell, what was said in the season 7 finale was also bad writing IMO. The only way for a witch to become is through the wail of a Banshee. As for the spell to steal powers, that requires a potion (the episode with the Stillman sisters was full of errors).
" @Son Of Storm: IF you actually watched the series, she eventually developed resistance to energy balls and fire balls. Okay it would throw her about a bit and giver her a graze but still. And yes, they would have strong morals, but Phoebe could use the Banshee spell, the turn into an animal spell or even steal her powers spell. "LOL. I've seen EVERY episode of the series at LEAST 15 times. So I've watched it :)
How can you gain resistance to FB or EB? However since Buffy is the Slayer she has been hit by electric attacks and gotten right back up. As Comicman said there is no Banshee spell. A spell to steal a WITCHES power. Buffy isn't a witch.The animal spell could be done. But that's only if Buffy just sits there. She's worked with a witch/magic for the majority of her Slayer life. So I think Buffy knows what a spell sounds like.And once again one solid punch from Buffy and Phoebe is out for the count.
" I don't think Phoebe would win an all out physical fight with Buffy, but Phoebes sparring partner was a super strong demon with a bunch of other powers, she does not use her combat skills against normal people, she is battle honed to fight demons and warlocks all of which have various degrees of superhuman strength, she can last for a while and her premonition power does give her a degree of intution that allows her to evade being hit which may give a chance to deal with some of Buffys speed (not for long though)I don't recall her using her premonition power in a balls-out rock 'em sock 'em fight like Buffy will bring.
because you are focusing on the vision part of it, it gives her heightened intution like when she was able evade the energy balls of the demon that was using Tempus to rewind time so that he could kill the charmed ones, Phoebe was able to sense that something was wrong with the time stream and anticipate his energy attacks. "that seems like quite a stretch to me. She's no Paul Muad'dib...
" @ninjabot said:Who cares. Buffy's still gonna spank." @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:doesn't matter what you think she did it "because you are focusing on the vision part of it, it gives her heightened intution like when she was able evade the energy balls of the demon that was using Tempus to rewind time so that he could kill the charmed ones, Phoebe was able to sense that something was wrong with the time stream and anticipate his energy attacks. "that seems like quite a stretch to me. She's no Paul Muad'dib... "
" @ninjabot said:So how long do you think this little intuition will last?" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:doesn't matter what you think she did it "because you are focusing on the vision part of it, it gives her heightened intution like when she was able evade the energy balls of the demon that was using Tempus to rewind time so that he could kill the charmed ones, Phoebe was able to sense that something was wrong with the time stream and anticipate his energy attacks. "that seems like quite a stretch to me. She's no Paul Muad'dib... "
" @ninjabot said:That happened only once. Can you recall any other incident like this?" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:because you are focusing on the vision part of it, it gives her heightened intution like when she was able evade the energy balls of the demon that was using Tempus to rewind time so that he could kill the charmed ones, Phoebe was able to sense that something was wrong with the time stream and anticipate his energy attacks. "" I don't think Phoebe would win an all out physical fight with Buffy, but Phoebes sparring partner was a super strong demon with a bunch of other powers, she does not use her combat skills against normal people, she is battle honed to fight demons and warlocks all of which have various degrees of superhuman strength, she can last for a while and her premonition power does give her a degree of intution that allows her to evade being hit which may give a chance to deal with some of Buffys speed (not for long though)I don't recall her using her premonition power in a balls-out rock 'em sock 'em fight like Buffy will bring. "
" @Son Of Storm said:Do you really think Phoebe would use a spell that "lethal" with "strong morals" on?" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:I figure it will only be needed to counter Buffys speed or even dodge enough to get off a quick spell. I doubt Phoebe will go that route (spell casting), but there is the untested "We call upon medusas bones turn their flesh into stone" spell. "" @ninjabot said:So how long do you think this little intuition will last? "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:doesn't matter what you think she did it "because you are focusing on the vision part of it, it gives her heightened intution like when she was able evade the energy balls of the demon that was using Tempus to rewind time so that he could kill the charmed ones, Phoebe was able to sense that something was wrong with the time stream and anticipate his energy attacks. "that seems like quite a stretch to me. She's no Paul Muad'dib... "
" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:I actually like that spell xD Phoenix your talented xD :D<3" @Son Of Storm said:Do you really think Phoebe would use a spell that "lethal" with "strong morals" on? "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:I figure it will only be needed to counter Buffys speed or even dodge enough to get off a quick spell. I doubt Phoebe will go that route (spell casting), but there is the untested "We call upon medusas bones turn their flesh into stone" spell. "" @ninjabot said:So how long do you think this little intuition will last? "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:doesn't matter what you think she did it "because you are focusing on the vision part of it, it gives her heightened intution like when she was able evade the energy balls of the demon that was using Tempus to rewind time so that he could kill the charmed ones, Phoebe was able to sense that something was wrong with the time stream and anticipate his energy attacks. "that seems like quite a stretch to me. She's no Paul Muad'dib... "
But since its high morals, I would give it to Buffy, she doesn't care as long as she gets her job done, but she won't kill Phoebe for no reason.
@HexThis said:
" Buffy would swiftly pummel Phoebe. Actually, I've always felt she could take out all the Charmed ones at once. "
depends if it extends to comic version, if this is comic buffy then she wins via speed blitz
if Tv series I say charmed ones.
" @Son Of Storm said:Yea. Buffy doesn't have to kill her." @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:I actually like that spell xD Phoenix your talented xD :D<3" @Son Of Storm said:Do you really think Phoebe would use a spell that "lethal" with "strong morals" on? "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:I figure it will only be needed to counter Buffys speed or even dodge enough to get off a quick spell. I doubt Phoebe will go that route (spell casting), but there is the untested "We call upon medusas bones turn their flesh into stone" spell. "" @ninjabot said:So how long do you think this little intuition will last? "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:doesn't matter what you think she did it "because you are focusing on the vision part of it, it gives her heightened intution like when she was able evade the energy balls of the demon that was using Tempus to rewind time so that he could kill the charmed ones, Phoebe was able to sense that something was wrong with the time stream and anticipate his energy attacks. "that seems like quite a stretch to me. She's no Paul Muad'dib... "
But since its high morals, I would give it to Buffy, she doesn't care as long as she gets her job done, but she won't kill Phoebe for no reason.
" @Charmix said::D only knock her senseless xD" @Son Of Storm said:Yea. Buffy doesn't have to kill her. "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:I actually like that spell xD Phoenix your talented xD :D<3" @Son Of Storm said:Do you really think Phoebe would use a spell that "lethal" with "strong morals" on? "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:I figure it will only be needed to counter Buffys speed or even dodge enough to get off a quick spell. I doubt Phoebe will go that route (spell casting), but there is the untested "We call upon medusas bones turn their flesh into stone" spell. "" @ninjabot said:So how long do you think this little intuition will last? "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:doesn't matter what you think she did it "because you are focusing on the vision part of it, it gives her heightened intution like when she was able evade the energy balls of the demon that was using Tempus to rewind time so that he could kill the charmed ones, Phoebe was able to sense that something was wrong with the time stream and anticipate his energy attacks. "that seems like quite a stretch to me. She's no Paul Muad'dib... "
But since its high morals, I would give it to Buffy, she doesn't care as long as she gets her job done, but she won't kill Phoebe for no reason.
" @Son Of Storm said:Exactly." @Charmix said::D only knock her senseless xD "" @Son Of Storm said:Yea. Buffy doesn't have to kill her. "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:I actually like that spell xD Phoenix your talented xD :D<3" @Son Of Storm said:Do you really think Phoebe would use a spell that "lethal" with "strong morals" on? "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:I figure it will only be needed to counter Buffys speed or even dodge enough to get off a quick spell. I doubt Phoebe will go that route (spell casting), but there is the untested "We call upon medusas bones turn their flesh into stone" spell. "" @ninjabot said:So how long do you think this little intuition will last? "" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:doesn't matter what you think she did it "because you are focusing on the vision part of it, it gives her heightened intution like when she was able evade the energy balls of the demon that was using Tempus to rewind time so that he could kill the charmed ones, Phoebe was able to sense that something was wrong with the time stream and anticipate his energy attacks. "that seems like quite a stretch to me. She's no Paul Muad'dib... "
But since its high morals, I would give it to Buffy, she doesn't care as long as she gets her job done, but she won't kill Phoebe for no reason.
Define "all her powers" Cause if this includes access to the powers of her past lives or the powers she had when she was pregnant with the Source's child then how can she lose
lol. Buffy beats her into ground. Buffy can effortlessly lift steel beams, something that requires at least 8-10 men to do.
@gxrevolution96: if buffy can do that then so can pheobe as her power of empathy lets her copy the powers of her opponents.
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