Buffy is at current power levels and Faith has a sword, Bruce has all of his normal gear and knows nothing about these two fem fatales. Battle takes place in Sunnydale, morals are on. If needed Bruce can bring in Dick if is in to much trouble.
Current Buffy solos
Faith or normal power level Buffy would give him hell alone
Together the girls stomp
With prep time, knowledge and all his resources ( Bruce is filthy rich ;) ) Wayn have big chances to take down, a standard version of a Slayer, however in street fight, withaout prep time, Bat's will be annihilated, especially in fight against someone so imaginative like Buffy. Standard Slayer is ten times more durable than human , is at least five times faster than human (you need to be that fast to catch arrow), and probably can lift a 1 ton or more, and she is formitable fighter. Slayer can catch a flying knife or speeding arrow, and even can dodge bullets, so batarangs don't make a difference.
" @Picard: I'm not knocking Buffy, I'm well aware of what she is capable. All of which Bruce has feats which are greater. Taking out White Martians; dropping Bane, Solomon Grundy, etc...; easily killing Doomsday clones. The list goes on. Not to mention that, despite her fighting prowess, Buffy is a moron. It would take Bruce, the greatest tactical mind in the Universe, about a 1/3 of a second to work out how to take her down. "
No, Buffy is a moron. All those plans, Willow, Giles and others cooked up. Batman could just use knockout gas or something to drop Buffy. Bane doesn't use Venom anymore? What's your point? He took him down when he was using it. He's beaten Grundy, frequently, in H2H. And he dropped the Doomsday clones with an axe and batarangs. Buffy has been beaten up by 20 year old Vampires, such as in season 4 episode 1. As for your frame of reference regarding Buffy taking down multiple vampires, Charles Gunn was capable of that, and he is only human. He is also not nearly 100th of the fighter Batman is." @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @Picard: I'm not knocking Buffy, I'm well aware of what she is capable. All of which Bruce has feats which are greater. Taking out White Martians; dropping Bane, Solomon Grundy, etc...; easily killing Doomsday clones. The list goes on. Not to mention that, despite her fighting prowess, Buffy is a moron. It would take Bruce, the greatest tactical mind in the Universe, about a 1/3 of a second to work out how to take her down.
Buffy is not a moron! Quite contrery, she can be quite resourceful and smart. In the show she allways have a plan to how to defeat big bad, so calling her moron is just unfair and insulting. As for Batman's feats: Martians - he had knowlege and technology. bane? Bane who don't use venom any more... Solomon Grundy, killing Doomsday clones? How he do that? Not, with knowledge and technology? Batman with prep time can win, without it, no! "
" @Picard said:No, Buffy is a moron. All those plans, Willow, Giles and others cooked up. Batman could just use knockout gas or something to drop Buffy. Bane doesn't use Venom anymore? What's your point? He took him down when he was using it. He's beaten Grundy, frequently, in H2H. And he dropped the Doomsday clones with an axe and batarangs. Buffy has been beaten up by 20 year old Vampires, such as in season 4 episode 1. As for your frame of reference regarding Buffy taking down multiple vampires, Charles Gunn was capable of that, and he is only human. He is also not nearly 100th of the fighter Batman is. "" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @Picard: I'm not knocking Buffy, I'm well aware of what she is capable. All of which Bruce has feats which are greater. Taking out White Martians; dropping Bane, Solomon Grundy, etc...; easily killing Doomsday clones. The list goes on. Not to mention that, despite her fighting prowess, Buffy is a moron. It would take Bruce, the greatest tactical mind in the Universe, about a 1/3 of a second to work out how to take her down.
Buffy is not a moron! Quite contrery, she can be quite resourceful and smart. In the show she allways have a plan to how to defeat big bad, so calling her moron is just unfair and insulting. As for Batman's feats: Martians - he had knowlege and technology. bane? Bane who don't use venom any more... Solomon Grundy, killing Doomsday clones? How he do that? Not, with knowledge and technology? Batman with prep time can win, without it, no! "
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:I know Willow's a genius. Minus for the magic addict stage of season 6, Willow is always above and beyond clever. Buffy is a brilliant fighter and a superb combatant, and aside from season 6+, a great character. She is not however, particularly clever. Most of her plans lack forethought. The Slayer army for instance, leading to large numbers of girls all over the world gaining superpowers randomly with no guidance. Hence the situation in Angel's episode "Damage". Even her plan to defeat the Mayor lacked a decent back up. What if the Mayor hadn't been an idiot and chased her through an explosive-ridden school? (Which she had no idea would be totally empty). Everyone in Sunnydale would have died, rather than just evacuating them.
No, Buffy is a moron. All those plans, Willow, Giles and others cooked up.
Buffy is not a moron. She faces and overcomes difficult tasks and decisions on a regular basis. Buffy is part of making those plans as well as the leader. Willow is a genius btw. "
I know Willow's a genius. Minus for the magic addict stage of season 6, Willow is always above and beyond clever. Buffy is a brilliant fighter and a superb combatant, and aside from season 6+, a great character. She is not however, particularly clever. Most of her plans lack forethought. The Slayer army for instance, leading to large numbers of girls all over the world gaining superpowers randomly with no guidance. Hence the situation in Angel's episode "Damage". Even her plan to defeat the Mayor lacked a decent back up. What if the Mayor hadn't been an idiot and chased her through an explosive-ridden school? (Which she had no idea would be totally empty). Everyone in Sunnydale would have died, rather than just evacuating them. "Buffy's been awesome since season one to eight. The mayor had no clue the school was rigged. Buffy knew the school would be empty because she got every student in on the plan. We could go through every little mistake Buffy's made throughout the show, that doesn't make her a moron. People like Harmony are morons.
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:Haha, that's true, Harmony sucks.I know Willow's a genius. Minus for the magic addict stage of season 6, Willow is always above and beyond clever. Buffy is a brilliant fighter and a superb combatant, and aside from season 6+, a great character. She is not however, particularly clever. Most of her plans lack forethought. The Slayer army for instance, leading to large numbers of girls all over the world gaining superpowers randomly with no guidance. Hence the situation in Angel's episode "Damage". Even her plan to defeat the Mayor lacked a decent back up. What if the Mayor hadn't been an idiot and chased her through an explosive-ridden school? (Which she had no idea would be totally empty). Everyone in Sunnydale would have died, rather than just evacuating them. "Buffy's been awesome since season one to eight. The mayor had no clue the school was rigged. Buffy knew the school would be empty because she got every student in on the plan. We could go through every little mistake Buffy's made throughout the show, that doesn't make her a moron. People like Harmony are morons. "
Harmony doesn't suck, she bites! ;) Lol I would so watch that show if it were a real. :P
Haha, that's true, Harmony sucks. I could never stand Buffy after she became so elitist and self-righteous. It annoyed and saddened me, because I loved her before the series moved to UPN. "
I just don't see Batman losing this if Buffy isn't super Buffy...Bruce has taken on metas before with no prep....everyone acts like Bruce needs prep to beat any meta but that's just not the case...he's a great improviser and Buffy and Faith just don't have the experience or combat training to hang with Batman
" I just don't see Batman losing this if Buffy isn't super Buffy...Bruce has taken on metas before with no prep....everyone acts like Bruce needs prep to beat any meta but that's just not the case...he's a great improviser and Buffy and Faith just don't have the experience or combat training to hang with Batman "My thoughts exactly, his gadgets will give him the win, knock out gas, and tasers. And the slayers aren't that much more durable that batman can't knock them unconscious. Buffy and Faith are good, just bruce has the tools in has belt to take them down.
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:Actually, it's not. Scoring higher on a test tells me absolutely nothing, as it would tell any intelligent person. Outsmarting a psychotic is simple, as a psychotic vampire has mental faculties akin to a rabid dog. Convincing someone, who's a witch, to use magic, really not that impressive of a feat, nor is saying to the only guy on your team who has no special abilities; "distract her" a particularly novel idea. The Mayor, by being overcome by his human emotions, WAS A MORON. Do you even read what you write?
I know Willow's a genius. Minus for the magic addict stage of season 6, Willow is always above and beyond clever. Buffy is a brilliant fighter and a superb combatant, and aside from season 6+, a great character. She is not however, particularly clever. Most of her plans lack forethought. The Slayer army for instance, leading to large numbers of girls all over the world gaining superpowers randomly with no guidance. Hence the situation in Angel's episode "Damage". Even her plan to defeat the Mayor lacked a decent back up. What if the Mayor hadn't been an idiot and chased her through an explosive-ridden school? (Which she had no idea would be totally empty). Everyone in Sunnydale would have died, rather than just evacuating them. "
Willow is a genius but Buffy scored higher on test. What this tell you? Mayor was not a moron - he was overcomed be his human emotions and Buffy used this against him. Also in episode "Helpless", when she was strip of her powers, she outsmart psychotic vampire. In episode "The Gift" she convince Willow to use her magic against Glory, and she used Xander to further distract hel-goddess. About army of Slayers: this was not perfect solution, but also this was the only way to stop The First Evil. After all Buffy, and Angle are only true superheroes in Buffyverse, Batman can always ask Justice league for help, Buffy can't. So, sorry but you argument about Buffy's stupidity is...just stupid! :)
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If you're referring to me, maybe you should watch the episode in question. You know the episode where multiple Turok-Han are slaughtered by just-powered up Slayers, when it took Buffy, arguably the best Slayer ever, around 10 minutes to take down 1. Yeah, I hate when people who disagree with me know what they're talking about as well." A Batman fan is crying about PIS, what is the world coming too. "
" Oh i agree that was Pis really Whedon just should have had some enchantment activate on the Scythe that boosted all slayer power. Still Bruce routinely gets away with PIS, like taking blows from Supes and actually kicking the fuckin Spectre in the face. "Taking blows from Supes aren't the issues being taken into account here. So it doesn't matter. Also, careful with the language. I don't care, but others do :)
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Actually, it's not. Scoring higher on a test tells me absolutely nothing, as it would tell any intelligent person. Outsmarting a psychotic is simple, as a psychotic vampire has mental faculties akin to a rabid dog. Convincing someone, who's a witch, to use magic, really not that impressive of a feat, nor is saying to the only guy on your team who has no special abilities; "distract her" a particularly novel idea. The Mayor, by being overcome by his human emotions, WAS A MORON. Do you even read what you write?
She have higher score that person who spend most of her times with books, and this means nothing to you? Outsmarting a psychotic is simple? Most of Batman's enemies are psychotic, is that mean that Batman is stupid? Been psychotic is not this same as been stupid: looke at Joker, Mr Zsasz they are most certainlly psychotic but they are not stupid. Quite contrery, most of serial killers are smart, smarter than average person. Willow don't want to use magic against Glory, she never even thing about it, Buffy did. That was her plan: use Willow, and Xander to distract Glory. About the Mayor, he was not moron, that was not part of his characteristics, but Buffy playing on his emotions forced him to irrational behavior, she use his weakness against him. Smart thing to do, don't you thing? About superhumans: none of mentioned people can stop apocalypse , they allways work under under command of people like Buffy or Angel. About Batman and League - so he calls his colleagues hrom the JLA only in case of apocalypse? Well, guess what: Buffy and her gang stop apocalypse in every seson of the show. Can Batman stop army of uber-vampires, alone or with help from bat-familly? Highly doubt it! If he can stop hel-god? Hell, no! But he can take down girl who can do this. Yes, and pigs can fly! :) Batman defeating army of Doomsday clones was far more far more greater PIS than, anything in "The Chosen one".
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My thoughts exactly, his gadgets will give him the win, knock out gas, and tasers. And the slayers aren't that much more durable that batman can't knock them unconscious. Buffy and Faith are good, just bruce has the tools in has belt to take them down.
Gas? He first must have the time to use it. Try to do this when you are attacked be someone five times faster than you! :) Taser? She defeted the whole team of soldiers equip with teasres in 30 seconds. Buffy is not so much durable? No, she only have endurance of ten men, no no, biggy! :)
" FadeToBlackBoltSeriously? How old are you? I don't mean to insult you, but you have no idea what you're on about. Like legitimately, no idea. The Joker and Two-Face, they are intelligent, the vamp in Helpless was not. You apply gross generalisations to completely different circumstances. Buffy and Angel stop Apocalypses in every season of the show; let's have a look at that shall we.
Actually, it's not. Scoring higher on a test tells me absolutely nothing, as it would tell any intelligent person. Outsmarting a psychotic is simple, as a psychotic vampire has mental faculties akin to a rabid dog. Convincing someone, who's a witch, to use magic, really not that impressive of a feat, nor is saying to the only guy on your team who has no special abilities; "distract her" a particularly novel idea. The Mayor, by being overcome by his human emotions, WAS A MORON. Do you even read what you write?
She have higher score that person who spend most of her times with books, and this means nothing to you? Outsmarting a psychotic is simple? Most of Batman's enemies are psychotic, is that mean that Batman is stupid? Been psychotic is not this same as been stupid: looke at Joker, Mr Zsasz they are most certainlly psychotic but they are not stupid. Quite contrery, most of serial killers are smart, smarter than average person. Willow don't want to use magic against Glory, she never even thing about it, Buffy did. That was her plan: use Willow, and Xander to distract Glory. About the Mayor, he was not moron, that was not part of his characteristics, but Buffy playing on his emotions forced him to irrational behavior, she use his weakness against him. Smart thing to do, don't you thing? About superhumans: none of mentioned people can stop apocalypse , they allways work under under command of people like Buffy or Angel. About Batman and League - so he calls his colleagues hrom the JLA only in case of apocalypse? Well, guess what: Buffy and her gang stop apocalypse in every seson of the show. Can Batman stop of army of uber-vampires, alone or with help from bat-familly? Highly doubt it! If he can stop hel-god? Hell, no! But he can take down girl who can do this. Yes, and pigs can fly! :) Batman defeating army of Doomsday clones was far more far more greater PIS than, anything in "The Chosen one".
" @danhimself said:" I just don't see Batman losing this if Buffy isn't super Buffy...Bruce has taken on metas before with no prep....everyone acts like Bruce needs prep to beat any meta but that's just not the case...he's a great improviser and Buffy and Faith just don't have the experience or combat training to hang with Batman "My thoughts exactly, his gadgets will give him the win, knock out gas, and tasers. And the slayers aren't that much more durable that batman can't knock them unconscious. Buffy and Faith are good, just bruce has the tools in has belt to take them down. "
" @nightwing91 said:People are idiots. What're you gonna do?" @danhimself said:this really annoys me as well ,i have seen some batman threads and not once did i find anyone bringing up his gadgets/weapons,every fight here is just physical ,like the weopens dont even exist. "" I just don't see Batman losing this if Buffy isn't super Buffy...Bruce has taken on metas before with no prep....everyone acts like Bruce needs prep to beat any meta but that's just not the case...he's a great improviser and Buffy and Faith just don't have the experience or combat training to hang with Batman "My thoughts exactly, his gadgets will give him the win, knock out gas, and tasers. And the slayers aren't that much more durable that batman can't knock them unconscious. Buffy and Faith are good, just bruce has the tools in has belt to take them down. "
" i must be missing somthing cause i use to watch the show , but how could those two solo batman there no way ? "You're not missing anything. People are overestimating Buffy and Faith. In the context of their show, they had superstrength. But that superstrength was less than 1 ton level at best. They never faced anyone nearly as well-equipped, as intelligent, as tactical or as well trained as Bruce.
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