Exactly. He dies and is eaten. He is just a normal human with Martial Arts skills.
Dr Doom defeated a blood lusted lion without his suit and he does not have the physiology or the martial art skills that bruce has. not by a long shot. Bruce is not a 'normal' human.
Exactly. He dies and is eaten. He is just a normal human with Martial Arts skills.
Dr Doom defeated a blood lusted lion without his suit and he does not have the physiology or the martial art skills that bruce has. not by a long shot. Bruce is not a 'normal' human.
One scratch that is too deep, he's dead. Lions are more agile, and much stronger than Bruce. And he is but a human. He doesnt have enhanced durability, strength, or speed. Its like saying an olympian could beat a lion, let alone 3.
And if Doom didnt use his sorcery that is a highly questionable feat.
He had room to move though,,trapped in a cage with 3 raging lions is a Bit much..DareDevil 212- DareDevil defeats two angry adult tigers in hand to hand combat, dispatching of both of them with one hit each.,,so batman might pull this off but it would be crazy,,if anyone could take three lions it would be him but the limited space worries me..male lions hunt with the utmost ferocity
Exactly. He dies and is eaten. He is just a normal human with Martial Arts skills.
Dr Doom defeated a blood lusted lion without his suit and he does not have the physiology or the martial art skills that bruce has. not by a long shot. Bruce is not a 'normal' human.
One scratch that is too deep, he's dead. Lions are more agile, and much stronger than Bruce. And he is but a human. He doesnt have enhanced durability, strength, or speed. Its like saying an olympian could beat a lion, let alone 3.
And if Doom didnt use his sorcery that is a highly questionable feat.
No, it's not like saying an olympian could beat a lion or 3, because Bruce wouldn't sweat taking out an olympian
Exactly. He dies and is eaten. He is just a normal human with Martial Arts skills.
Dr Doom defeated a blood lusted lion without his suit and he does not have the physiology or the martial art skills that bruce has. not by a long shot. Bruce is not a 'normal' human.
One scratch that is too deep, he's dead. Lions are more agile, and much stronger than Bruce. And he is but a human. He doesnt have enhanced durability, strength, or speed. Its like saying an olympian could beat a lion, let alone 3.
And if Doom didnt use his sorcery that is a highly questionable feat.
Olympian level in the real world and Olympian level in Comic worlds are completely different. Noone in real life can jump straight unto the first story of a building but Nightwing and Batman consistently do this all the time. They do feats that no normal human has ever done before. So emphasising 'he's but a human' is a moot point.
Exactly. He dies and is eaten. He is just a normal human with Martial Arts skills.
Dr Doom defeated a blood lusted lion without his suit and he does not have the physiology or the martial art skills that bruce has. not by a long shot. Bruce is not a 'normal' human.
One scratch that is too deep, he's dead. Lions are more agile, and much stronger than Bruce. And he is but a human. He doesnt have enhanced durability, strength, or speed. Its like saying an olympian could beat a lion, let alone 3.
And if Doom didnt use his sorcery that is a highly questionable feat.
Olympian level in the real world and Olympian level in Comic worlds are completely different. Noone in real life can jump straight unto the first story of a building but Nightwing and Batman consistently do this all the time. They do feats that no normal human has ever done before. So emphasising 'he's but a human' is a moot point.
He's a comic peak human.
He's got this.
Unless the OP says PIS is on, or I mention it myself, I compare the characters on paper, ergo, Batman dies. A single solid hit from a lion could kill him, or leave him unconscious. Without PIS Batman is dead. With PIS, Batman wins.
Exactly. He dies and is eaten. He is just a normal human with Martial Arts skills.
Dr Doom defeated a blood lusted lion without his suit and he does not have the physiology or the martial art skills that bruce has. not by a long shot. Bruce is not a 'normal' human.
One scratch that is too deep, he's dead. Lions are more agile, and much stronger than Bruce. And he is but a human. He doesnt have enhanced durability, strength, or speed. Its like saying an olympian could beat a lion, let alone 3.
And if Doom didnt use his sorcery that is a highly questionable feat.
Olympian level in the real world and Olympian level in Comic worlds are completely different. Noone in real life can jump straight unto the first story of a building but Nightwing and Batman consistently do this all the time. They do feats that no normal human has ever done before. So emphasising 'he's but a human' is a moot point.
He's a comic peak human.
He's got this.
Unless the OP says PIS is on, or I mention it myself, I compare the characters on paper, ergo, Batman dies. A single solid hit from a lion could kill him, or leave him unconscious. Without PIS Batman is dead. With PIS, Batman wins.
On paper? Batman has done more and beaten harder opponents. It's not plot that they are stronger than real humans. It's not PIS when every single panel they do shows that they are far above the capabilities of what normal humans could ever do. It's not PIS, its a feat.
Exactly. He dies and is eaten. He is just a normal human with Martial Arts skills.
Dr Doom defeated a blood lusted lion without his suit and he does not have the physiology or the martial art skills that bruce has. not by a long shot. Bruce is not a 'normal' human.
One scratch that is too deep, he's dead. Lions are more agile, and much stronger than Bruce. And he is but a human. He doesnt have enhanced durability, strength, or speed. Its like saying an olympian could beat a lion, let alone 3.
And if Doom didnt use his sorcery that is a highly questionable feat.
Olympian level in the real world and Olympian level in Comic worlds are completely different. Noone in real life can jump straight unto the first story of a building but Nightwing and Batman consistently do this all the time. They do feats that no normal human has ever done before. So emphasising 'he's but a human' is a moot point.
He's a comic peak human.
He's got this.
Unless the OP says PIS is on, or I mention it myself, I compare the characters on paper, ergo, Batman dies. A single solid hit from a lion could kill him, or leave him unconscious. Without PIS Batman is dead. With PIS, Batman wins.
On paper? Batman has done more and beaten harder opponents. It's not plot that they are stronger than real humans. It's not PIS when every single panel they do shows that they are far above the capabilities of what normal humans could ever do. It's not PIS, its a feat.
In canon, he just a normal human. A normal conditioned to that absolute peak of humanity, but he is still human. It is plot when he is shown fighting a 2 tonner like Bane toe to toe, and he beats him, via plot. He could survive a knife and a gunshot, normal people have, but a knife to a vital organ, will kill him. He isnt Wolverine, or Deadpool, or even Deathstroke, he is a guy who knows martial arts. Without his gadgets, vehicles, and suit, he'd be dead ten times over. Even with all that he should be dead, but thats not how to tell a story.
I fail to see how punisher fighting a bear relates to Bruce fighting 3 adult lions in an enclosed space...lions are way faster and dangerous than a bear, and they take down prey in groups which means Bruce will have to stop all three at once,,,the average size of an MMA ring is 25-30 feet across,,,that's the size of most people's living room or kitchen, those lions would be on him quicker than stink hits shit,,I doubt he could stop a three lion front
This is ridiculous. The fact all of you are saying that Bruce loses to LIONS of all things just shows you know nothing of Batman. Bruce wins this pretty much effortlessly, one-shotting each lion and not getting hit even once.
This is ridiculous. The fact all of you are saying that Bruce loses to LIONS of all things just shows you know nothing of Batman. Bruce wins this pretty much effortlessly, one-shotting each lion and not getting hit even once.
You read too many comics and watch too many movies. You have a warped sense of reality no doubt. Do you have any idea how strong a Lion is? Watch some animal planet. No one even at their peak physical condition could easily defeat a lion, let alone 3... in a cage.
Well, this is about a comic book character, is it not?
The simple fact is Bruce is well above what any real life human being is capable of. Regardless of how much that defies logic, it's a fact about the character that has been consistently proven for decades. I think it's silly to believe he'd win this without a potential scratch but he absolutely has the skill and physicals necessary to make it out of this scenario alive.
Get real. No real word logic about human limits and capabilities applies to comic book characters. Especially one who's spent half his life figuratively punching those limits in the face and kicking them while they're down.
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@Bane_of_sith said:
I fail to see how punisher fighting a bear relates to Bruce fighting 3 adult lions in an enclosed space...lions are way faster and dangerous than a bear, and they take down prey in groups which means Bruce will have to stop all three at once,,,the average size of an MMA ring is 25-30 feet across,,,that's the size of most people's living room or kitchen, those lions would be on him quicker than stink hits shit,,I doubt he could stop a three lion front
I use it to point out that comic-book peak humans are supposed to be way outside the limits of what normal humans can do. For example, Shang Chi who at best, is Bruce's equal in terms of fighting skill kicks down steel doors and Radio towers. Batman himself has smashed through Brick walls and Benched 600 pounds while in a drastically weakened condition. The fact that the Punisher would lose to Batman H2H only iterates that Bruce would win, especially since bears are stronger than lions.
Exactly. He dies and is eaten. He is just a normal human with Martial Arts skills.
Last time I checked normal humans can't bench press 1000 lbs, dodge gunfire from multiple shooters, catch arrows in flight, move faster then human can see, kick down trees with single kick etc.
Btw Bruce could strangle one lion, but against 3 of them he doesn't stand much of a chance.
EDIT - I just read that Batman defeated 30 Man-Bats, they are stronger and faster than Lion and can fly, so Batman beats these lions lol.
Exactly. He dies and is eaten. He is just a normal human with Martial Arts skills.
Dr Doom defeated a blood lusted lion without his suit and he does not have the physiology or the martial art skills that bruce has. not by a long shot. Bruce is not a 'normal' human.
One scratch that is too deep, he's dead. Lions are more agile, and much stronger than Bruce. And he is but a human. He doesnt have enhanced durability, strength, or speed. Its like saying an olympian could beat a lion, let alone 3.
And if Doom didnt use his sorcery that is a highly questionable feat.
Olympian level in the real world and Olympian level in Comic worlds are completely different. Noone in real life can jump straight unto the first story of a building but Nightwing and Batman consistently do this all the time. They do feats that no normal human has ever done before. So emphasising 'he's but a human' is a moot point.
He's a comic peak human.
He's got this.
Unless the OP says PIS is on, or I mention it myself, I compare the characters on paper, ergo, Batman dies. A single solid hit from a lion could kill him, or leave him unconscious. Without PIS Batman is dead. With PIS, Batman wins.
On paper? Batman has done more and beaten harder opponents. It's not plot that they are stronger than real humans. It's not PIS when every single panel they do shows that they are far above the capabilities of what normal humans could ever do. It's not PIS, its a feat.
In canon, he just a normal human. A normal conditioned to that absolute peak of humanity, but he is still human. It is plot when he is shown fighting a 2 tonner like Bane toe to toe, and he beats him, via plot. He could survive a knife and a gunshot, normal people have, but a knife to a vital organ, will kill him. He isnt Wolverine, or Deadpool, or even Deathstroke, he is a guy who knows martial arts. Without his gadgets, vehicles, and suit, he'd be dead ten times over. Even with all that he should be dead, but thats not how to tell a story.
His brain is his best weapon. But about the lions, yeah he might take one, but the others would maul him without his suit or gadgets.
@Bane_of_sith: Male lions are incredibly lazy and it is the females who hunt and actually in victorian London they bought lion in as they believed they would be a better challenge for the bear in the pits however on strike to the skull of the lion by the bear was enough to incapacitate or even kill. If Bruce can kick a tree over then a lion would probably at least be very injured by that.
Bruce bench presses over 1000 pounds, while having more speed and agility than an olympian..... There is no other human like that. But three is still too much, i would say he can only take out one.
Get real. No real word logic about human limits and capabilities applies to comic book characters. Especially one who's spent half his life figuratively punching those limits in the face and kicking them while they're down.
Ok, since we're throwing all real world logic to the curb, we'll use comic book logic, what are these three lions feats? Anyone have any scans? We need to figure out these lions specs, cause we are not using real world lions against PIS Power Bruce Wayne. OP, gives us some deets on these lions appearances.
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