2-0 lee wins... He could do that 6-inch punch stuff and he's wayyyy faster than Marciano... You might wanna put Marciano against Dempsey or somebody closer to him in skill
"2-0 lee wins... He could do that 6-inch punch stuff and he's wayyyy faster than Marciano... You might wanna put Marciano against Dempsey or somebody closer to him in skill "
" @DC_Marvel_1000: 1.)Who has quicker hands? Lee 2.)Whos overall quicker? Lee 3.)Whose defense is better? Lee Thats how he wins the first fight 2nd fight its over in like 3-4 hits "
@randumo24: Are u sure Marcianos tougher? I'd like to debate that as well.. and stronger? If you mean weight lifting maybe... but strength behind his blows? I'd still say Bruce Lee...
Marciano is the hardest puncher in boxing history, these aren't kicks, they are only punches. Tougher for sure, he had to get hit in the face all the time by huge guys and only got even knocked down twice in 49 fights, and none of those was even close to a KO. He also has boxing savy, he would be able to get Lee against the ropes, trapping him to get hit with flurries that Lee couldn't take. In a street fight where anything goes, Lee wins because he has more weapons, but in a pure boxing match, Marciano is just too good.
@randumo24: FALSE! Marciano definitely didnt have a harder punch than Mike Tyson... I'd bet the house on that... Bruce lee's hand speed was remarkable... He had strength to boot... Look it up his striking speed was clocked in at around 5 hundreths of a second(no one on this site could dode that and I doubt marciano could)... Plus he could plunge his fingers through a Steel soda can(yes old coke cans were steel)...
"@randumo24: FALSE! Marciano definitely didnt have a harder punch than Mike Tyson... I'd bet the house on that... Bruce lee's hand speed was remarkable... He had strength to boot... Look it up his striking speed was clocked in at around 5 hundreths of a second(no one on this site could dode that and I doubt marciano could)... Plus he could plunge his fingers through a Steel soda can(yes old coke cans were steel)... "
not with boxing gloves he can't. It's debatable who's punch was harder, but what isn't was who could go for longer. Marciano could punch that hard and keep going for 12 rounds, Tyson was done after 3. Ask any expert, there's a big difference between boxing and regular fighting. Great boxers aren't usually going to do well in MMA, just like top MMA fighters aren't usually going to do well in a regular boxing match. Totally different situations.
U guys ever watch the first UFC's? where the boxers tryed to fight the grapplers and martial artists? and then got destroyed? LMAO, just because you can hit hard doesnt mean your going to win. Someone with a better well rounded fighting skill who is as fast and talented as Lee was has the advantage over a boxer.
" U guys ever watch the first UFC's? where the boxers tryed to fight the grapplers and martial artists? and then got destroyed? LMAO, just because you can hit hard doesnt mean your going to win. Someone with a better well rounded fighting skill who is as fast and talented as Lee was has the advantage over a boxer. "
LMFAO i'm totally thinking about Art"one glove" Jimmerson vs Royce Gracy right now
" @randumo24: And for the record Lee did box when he was 19 and it was said that he was an extremely good boxer and could have competed professionally "
" U guys ever watch the first UFC's? where the boxers tryed to fight the grapplers and martial artists? and then got destroyed? LMAO, just because you can hit hard doesnt mean your going to win. Someone with a better well rounded fighting skill who is as fast and talented as Lee was has the advantage over a boxer. "
@the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches when dealt by the right person.
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies.
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick"
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other.
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow "
they are slow enough to be easily avoided. And no, punches are almost always faster than kicks, simply because arms are not as large as legs are. It woudn't take much for marciano to KO lee
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow "
they are slow enough to be easily avoided. And no, punches are almost always faster than kicks, simply because arms are not as large as legs are. It woudn't take much for marciano to KO lee "
bruces kicks are far from slow, his speed is top notch and would be hard to counter, and it's not like bruce is a push over rocky is not gonna KO him with one punch
@the human Juggernaut: Lee invented Jeet Kune Do. Basicly its Kung Fu without all the flowerly bullsh!t. His theory was that a fighter needs to use any technique from any style to defend himself. Many consider JKD to be one of the first MMA styles of fighting. It was most certainly the first in the US.
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow "
they are slow enough to be easily avoided. And no, punches are almost always faster than kicks, simply because arms are not as large as legs are. It woudn't take much for marciano to KO lee "
bruces kicks are far from slow, his speed is top notch and would be hard to counter, and it's not like bruce is a push over rocky is not gonna KO him with one punch "
yea, marciano would take him out with 1 punch. He's not used to getting hit like that. Speed is great and all, but who ever said that marciano was slow?
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow "
they are slow enough to be easily avoided. And no, punches are almost always faster than kicks, simply because arms are not as large as legs are. It woudn't take much for marciano to KO lee "
bruces kicks are far from slow, his speed is top notch and would be hard to counter, and it's not like bruce is a push over rocky is not gonna KO him with one punch "
yea, marciano would take him out with 1 punch. He's not used to getting hit like that. Speed is great and all, but who ever said that marciano was slow? "
i never said he was but who said bruce is weak? bruce has come back from a broken back i think he can take rockys punch
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow "
they are slow enough to be easily avoided. And no, punches are almost always faster than kicks, simply because arms are not as large as legs are. It woudn't take much for marciano to KO lee "
bruces kicks are far from slow, his speed is top notch and would be hard to counter, and it's not like bruce is a push over rocky is not gonna KO him with one punch "
yea, marciano would take him out with 1 punch. He's not used to getting hit like that. Speed is great and all, but who ever said that marciano was slow? "
i never said he was but who said bruce is weak? bruce has come back from a broken back i think he can take rockys punch "
lol, so you're equating coming back from injuries to being able to take a punch?
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow "
they are slow enough to be easily avoided. And no, punches are almost always faster than kicks, simply because arms are not as large as legs are. It woudn't take much for marciano to KO lee "
bruces kicks are far from slow, his speed is top notch and would be hard to counter, and it's not like bruce is a push over rocky is not gonna KO him with one punch "
yea, marciano would take him out with 1 punch. He's not used to getting hit like that. Speed is great and all, but who ever said that marciano was slow? "
i never said he was but who said bruce is weak? bruce has come back from a broken back i think he can take rockys punch "
lol, so you're equating coming back from injuries to being able to take a punch? "
no i am just saying that someone who is able to come back from a broken back and do all he did after is not gonna fall to one punch
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow "
they are slow enough to be easily avoided. And no, punches are almost always faster than kicks, simply because arms are not as large as legs are. It woudn't take much for marciano to KO lee "
bruces kicks are far from slow, his speed is top notch and would be hard to counter, and it's not like bruce is a push over rocky is not gonna KO him with one punch "
yea, marciano would take him out with 1 punch. He's not used to getting hit like that. Speed is great and all, but who ever said that marciano was slow? "
i never said he was but who said bruce is weak? bruce has come back from a broken back i think he can take rockys punch "
lol, so you're equating coming back from injuries to being able to take a punch? "
i think that what @the human Juggernautis tryin 2 say that getting a broken back is more worse than getting punched n bruce had overovercome his back injury, which shows that bruce lee is tougher than rocky
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow "
they are slow enough to be easily avoided. And no, punches are almost always faster than kicks, simply because arms are not as large as legs are. It woudn't take much for marciano to KO lee "
bruces kicks are far from slow, his speed is top notch and would be hard to counter, and it's not like bruce is a push over rocky is not gonna KO him with one punch "
yea, marciano would take him out with 1 punch. He's not used to getting hit like that. Speed is great and all, but who ever said that marciano was slow? "
i never said he was but who said bruce is weak? bruce has come back from a broken back i think he can take rockys punch "
lol, so you're equating coming back from injuries to being able to take a punch? "
i think that what @the human Juggernautis tryin 2 say that getting a broken back is more worse than getting punched n bruce had overovercome his back injury, which shows that bruce lee is tougher than rocky "
actually i'm not saying that at all. Being able to take a punch and recovering from an injury are two totally different things.
" @the human Juggernaut: Kung Fu still has grappling and submission moves in it even if it is not based soley on those types of fighting. He still has a more well rounded fighting technique then a flat footed boxer. Leg kicks are a lot faster and deadlier then punches. "
he's going to have to be taken down for any so called kung fu "grappling" to work (care to show examples of kung fu grappling?) Kung fu isn't known for its amazing takedowns. No, leg kicks from kung fu aren't really deadly at all besides in the movies. "
people who have taken bruces kicks have said it was like getting hit by a truck "
yes, a side kick, which if you see him do it, you can see coming from a million miles away. Not a "leg kick" "
but it shows that bruce has alot of power behind his kicks , even a leg kick will hurt "
the mechanics of a side kick and a round leg kick are completely different. Having alot of power in one doesn't mean you will have alot in the other. "
i get that yes but bruce should have enough power in his legs to make even a leg kick hurt, add in that bruces side kicks are also not slow "
they are slow enough to be easily avoided. And no, punches are almost always faster than kicks, simply because arms are not as large as legs are. It woudn't take much for marciano to KO lee "
bruces kicks are far from slow, his speed is top notch and would be hard to counter, and it's not like bruce is a push over rocky is not gonna KO him with one punch "
yea, marciano would take him out with 1 punch. He's not used to getting hit like that. Speed is great and all, but who ever said that marciano was slow? "
i never said he was but who said bruce is weak? bruce has come back from a broken back i think he can take rockys punch "
lol, so you're equating coming back from injuries to being able to take a punch? "
i think that what @the human Juggernautis tryin 2 say that getting a broken back is more worse than getting punched n bruce had overovercome his back injury, which shows that bruce lee is tougher than rocky "
actually i'm not saying that at all. Being able to take a punch and recovering from an injury are two totally different things. "
i agree, but it shows that bruce can overcome pain, it's not like bruce can't take a punch and you making it out to be like that
" @randumo24: And for the record Lee did box when he was 19 and it was said that he was an extremely good boxer and could have competed professionally "
" U guys ever watch the first UFC's? where the boxers tryed to fight the grapplers and martial artists? and then got destroyed? LMAO, just because you can hit hard doesnt mean your going to win. Someone with a better well rounded fighting skill who is as fast and talented as Lee was has the advantage over a boxer. "
" U guys ever watch the first UFC's? where the boxers tryed to fight the grapplers and martial artists? and then got destroyed? LMAO, just because you can hit hard doesnt mean your going to win. Someone with a better well rounded fighting skill who is as fast and talented as Lee was has the advantage over a boxer. "
" first fight boxing rules second fight no rules who wins what? "
Boxing Rocky Second fight Lee destroys him "
I can't belive i am agreeing with him but this is about right. Boxing has lots of rules. You can't hit a man in the back. in his balls etc you also need to have gloves and this is a big disadvantage for Lee. The gloves are going to decrease his speed and his punching strength. So let's see : You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent.
You cannot hit with your head, shoulder, forearm, or elbow. You cannot hit with an open glove, the inside of the glove, the wrist, the backhand, or the side of the hand. You cannot punch your opponent's back, or the back of his head or neck ( rabbit punch), or on the kidneys ( kidney punch). You cannot throw a punch while holding on to the ropes to gain leverage. You can't hold your opponent and hit him at the same time, or duck so low that your head is below your opponent's belt line. If you "floor" your opponent, you cannot hit him when he's on the canvas .
The way i see it all of this are BIG disadvantages for Lee, in a boxing ring his not going to win.
"@randumo24: And for the record Lee did box when he was 19 and it was said that he was an extremely good boxer and could have competed professionally "
just because he could compete professionaly doesnt mean he could beat the best of all time.
" @the human Juggernaut: Wrong Bruce Lee studied judo under Gene LeBell "
What does Judo have to do with boxing? Further more, if the second bout took place as soon as the first fight was over then Lee may not be in any condition to fight.
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