The criminals are ruthless and relentless, and are armed with bats, chains, crowbars, and wood planks.
Lee is unarmed.
Who wins?
The criminals are ruthless and relentless, and are armed with bats, chains, crowbars, and wood planks.
Lee is unarmed.
Who wins?
Depends on the criminals. If they're dumb then I think Bruce can take them, but if they'e smart they can win. If they rush him from all sides Bruce will be able to put the hurt on one or two, but one will get through and grab him... and possibly take him down. Either way, once he's immobilized for a few seconds the others will mess him up.
If it was 4 unarmed criminals then I'd say Bruce wins most of the time, maybe 9/10. But armed as they are, Bruce only wins like 4/10.
@GLforHIRE said:
Have you ever watched a bruce lee movie? in enter the dragon he went through a room full of karate guys armed with all those things and housed them...he'd take 4 easy
You do realize movies arent real life, right?
@GLforHIRE said:
Have you ever watched a bruce lee movie? in enter the dragon he went through a room full of karate guys armed with all those things and housed them...he'd take 4 easy
So true i remember him taking on multiple people.... Also Bruce Lee was fast enough in Return Of the Dragon he threw multiple darts at people hands causing them to drop his weapons. Bruce unarmed has dodged many hit with weapons then steals them from the person hes fighting... Do to Bruces super speed i'm going with him.
I've seen clips of Bruce training (since i took up Jeet Kune Do when i was little) and the "dojo" was showing clips of him. Unbelievable hand speed and power, really. Bruce's frame is lithe but man, the dude can seriously punch and kill you with a kick. If the thugs are without firearms, 5 or even maybe 6 of them, he can still win.
Which btw, you guys have seen Ip Man right? where Donnie Yen fights off 10 martial artists! :D Batman!!
@WillPayton: you do know bruce lee actually fought gangs off people while growing up? the whole "bruce lee story" is based off true life events (minus the samuri part) so him fighting the cooks and everything, which is documented as really happening would be the same as this scenerio. This isn't some steven segal action hero who can't really fight we're talkin about..this is bruce f'n lee
@GLforHIRE said:
@WillPayton: you do know bruce lee actually fought gangs off people while growing up? the whole "bruce lee story" is based off true life events (minus the samuri part) so him fighting the cooks and everything, which is documented as really happening would be the same as this scenerio. This isn't some steven segal action hero who can't really fight we're talkin about..this is bruce f'n lee
I did say Bruce can win. But honestly, if the criminals are smart, then it's 4 on 1, and all one of them needs to do is jump in and grab Bruce and slow him or take him down. Bruce is fast and skilled and tough, but one good shot from a metal weapon will break a bone, do internal injuries, or worse. If they surround him and rush him, sorry, Bruce cant cover 360 degrees all at once, someone will get through and grab him.
@WillPayton: attacking all at once doesnt mean they attack at the same exact moment...someone will reach him before another does and its not like it takes long for a skilled martial artist to take someone down let alone bruce lee...I my earlier days when i took training for my sora lisence, i've seen 1 guy take on mupltiple people and handle himself. Sure eventually someone would get a lucky hit or he would get overwelmed but its a very winable fight for someone who can use their hands and fight as a weapon. you say the criminals are smart, but its not like their master strategist...they would bum rush him jab here, kick there, hip toss here etc..very doable for a limited time. also whats to stop him from unarming them? or even taking their weapoin and using it himself since bruce did use weapons.
Bruce gets killed, martial arts aren't that effective in real life especially traditional fighting forms.
@nick_hero22 said:
Bruce gets killed, martial arts aren't that effective in real life especially traditional fighting forms.
Dude seriously go into your nearest mixed martial arts dojo and say real life martial arts aren't worth jack sh*t and see how long you live
the average criminal would last less than 20 seconds in a boxing ring yet alone survive against a real top tier martial artist
I agree a lot of Bruce Lee stuff is hype, legend, myth and hearsay
but to be fair to him he had insane skills that impressed even today's best tournament winners, impress top cage fighters, impress today's best martial artists,
Bruce had insane speed, he fought and beat people in amateur boxing championships,
Lee was so much faster and so much more skilled than your regular fighter that he could easily intercept/deflect/counter let alone simply block an attacking gangs best
sometimes depending on the HK tv series he was making, depending on the movie, he got into fights on movie sets every week,
he could floor someone with a one inch punch....DOCUMENTED and vid on the net.....I would put my money on Lee
@nick_hero22 said:
Bruce gets killed, martial arts aren't that effective in real life especially traditional fighting forms.
You do realize that ay form of fighting that isnt just random brawling is considered martial arts correct?For example Boxing is a form of martial art.Do you truly believe that Boxing isnt that effective in a real life situation.Also there is no true form of martial arts that is ineffective.Movie styles are as are tournament styles but those are both fake.I would assume those are what your thinking of when you say "martial arts"
There's no gun in this thread.@Sherlock:
"When you're facing a loaded gun what's the difference?"
@Sherlock said:
@royale_with_cheese said:
@Sherlock:
"When you're facing a loaded gun what's the difference?"
There is no gun in this topic and if you read what i said and what i was replying to then it has no relevance anyway
What I meant was that boxing, contrary to what you stated, is not effective in real life situations. I.e. situations involving firearms or even just standard street weapons for that matter.
So... Any situation that does not involve a firearm is not a real life situation?@Sherlock said:
@royale_with_cheese said:
@Sherlock:
"When you're facing a loaded gun what's the difference?"
There is no gun in this topic and if you read what i said and what i was replying to then it has no relevance anyway
What I meant was that boxing, contrary to what you stated, is not effective in real life situations. I.e. situations involving firearms or even just standard street weapons for that matter.
@royale_with_cheese said:
@Sherlock said:
@royale_with_cheese said:
@Sherlock:
"When you're facing a loaded gun what's the difference?"
There is no gun in this topic and if you read what i said and what i was replying to then it has no relevance anyway
What I meant was that boxing, contrary to what you stated, is not effective in real life situations. I.e. situations involving firearms or even just standard street weapons for that matter.
IN this case you would have to say Boxing isnt effective in ALL real life situations.Yes if a person has a gun then Boxing skill wont help you much but if your getting mugged by a large unarmed guy then yes that would be very useful information.The same is true for school yard bullies and fights against an armed opponent.To be fair Boxing skill would be useful in any fight that involves melee combat.
@Ferro Vida said:
So... Any situation that does not involve a firearm is not a real life situation?
I don't remember saying that. Do you?
First you say:@Ferro Vida said:
So... Any situation that does not involve a firearm is not a real life situation?I don't remember saying that. Do you?
You go on to clarify:boxing is not effective in real life situations.
Because we all know bar fights are totally fake.I.e. situations involving firearms or even just standard street weapons for that matter.
Chains, Bats, Crowbars? Four grown men using these kind of weapons, unless they are mentally challenged, would beat Bruce Lee to death. Same with any martial artist. Martial arts are most effective as a sport, when it comes to real life situations it makes a lot less impact.
@Ferro Vida said:
@royale_with_cheese: Oh, that's clever. You used the pic I posted when you were trolling me. Clearly I underestimated you.
Ha! That never occurred to me, since you've obviously considered the fact you're not the only site user who has posted the same image.
@Ferro Vida: Mods give approvals. That's about as close to receiving credit as you're going to get from this sight. Everything else, I take with a grain of salt.
Bruce Lee, he was a real badass martial artist and not one of those for movie fighters, he'd take four armed baddies down as easy as one could take down four armed baddies.
Bruce would whip all their asses. Anyone who says boxing isn't a martial art or doesn't apply in a street fight either has never been in one or can't fight period. That's asinine.
@Sherlock said:
@nick_hero22 said:
Bruce gets killed, martial arts aren't that effective in real life especially traditional fighting forms.
You do realize that ay form of fighting that isnt just random brawling is considered martial arts correct?For example Boxing is a form of martial art.Do you truly believe that Boxing isnt that effective in a real life situation.Also there is no true form of martial arts that is ineffective.Movie styles are as are tournament styles but those are both fake.I would assume those are what your thinking of when you say "martial arts"
I never said that all martial arts aren't that effective but the truth is that majority of them won't help in a real life situation and could possibly get you killed. Boxing is a pretty good form of fighting, but it also depends on the user of the style not so much of the style it's self and boxing wouldn't be that effective against 4 armed men with serious intentions on harming you. Yes, the reason most martial arts look so good is because during fighting demonstrations they are choreographed and the participates never go all out during these scenarios. It's funny how much people on here overrated martial arts in general, I would put a skilled brawler who actually has real life fighting experience over a martial artist who spars against opponents who never really go all out and has to use rules during fighting.
I didn't read the thread but if anyone thinks Bruce Lee is taking on four armed attackers out to kill him, it must be nice seeing the world through Steven Seagal's piss-colored sunglasses.
Bruce Lee continues to be the most overrated person in the history of this forum.
There's a good chance he'd lose to just ONE armed criminal.
He is an actor. Not a real fighter you nincompoops
@handsome_stud: Although Lee mostly was an actor and teacher, back when he was just a wing chun man, he did entered in an amateur boxing tournament and knocked out the champion. Even defeating an amateur boxer is impressive when you're only using wing chun. Most wing chun guys get easily knocked out.
Bruce Lee did fought in real life, in his college years he got in a gang fight. Some arrogant fool barged in to his home, angered Bruce kicked him on the ribs nearly killing the guy. A karate practicioner underestimated him and challenge him, what did the Karate guy get? a hell of an ass beating. Bruce have a steal hard body. He can punch an 80 pound bag and destroy it. He can break your bones in seconds. An I read a post of some guy in this thread saying boxing wont last on a street fight. The Hell dude. Why don't you try picking on Mayweather or Pacqiuao to see if your statements are true
Martial Arts is in fact the art of fighting.All of the guys with the bats and crowbars would also be using martial arts.Your entire statement is contradictory to itself and very illogical.Chains, Bats, Crowbars? Four grown men using these kind of weapons, unless they are mentally challenged, would beat Bruce Lee to death. Same with any martial artist. Martial arts are most effective as a sport, when it comes to real life situations it makes a lot less impact.
@Sherlock said:
@nick_hero22 said:
Bruce gets killed, martial arts aren't that effective in real life especially traditional fighting forms.
You do realize that ay form of fighting that isnt just random brawling is considered martial arts correct?For example Boxing is a form of martial art.Do you truly believe that Boxing isnt that effective in a real life situation.Also there is no true form of martial arts that is ineffective.Movie styles are as are tournament styles but those are both fake.I would assume those are what your thinking of when you say "martial arts"
I never said that all martial arts aren't that effective but the truth is that majority of them won't help in a real life situation and could possibly get you killed. Boxing is a pretty good form of fighting, but it also depends on the user of the style not so much of the style it's self and boxing wouldn't be that effective against 4 armed men with serious intentions on harming you. Yes, the reason most martial arts look so good is because during fighting demonstrations they are choreographed and the participates never go all out during these scenarios. It's funny how much people on here overrated martial arts in general, I would put a skilled brawler who actually has real life fighting experience over a martial artist who spars against opponents who never really go all out and has to use rules during fighting.
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