Bruce Banner vs Hank Pym

Pym, he's "The Scientist Supreme" 
 
'Nuff said

Hank will slap Bruce to the floor. 
 
He keeps his Pym-p hand strong. 

geek fight, i have my money on banner, he's more cunning :)

" @The Mjolnir Wielder: I thought Bruce had a pretty good showing at the time he wasn't the Hulk "

Pym-p slap FTW.
He discovered Pym particles. Banner discovered something.
 
<joke> Both probably don't know how to aim a gun. </joke>

I revive this thread because I like Hank Pym. Anyway Pym wins he is supposed to be peak human.

Bruce is like stereotypical school nerd, he'll loose badly.

Hank Pym is an experienced wife-slapper, he'll bully Bruce to death.

@AngryHulks: hey he disciplined her.

Pym is much more aggressive and douchey than Banner.

Pym 

yall act like hank pym doesn't have fighting skills he is a master combatant while changing size

Banner: "let's settle this civilly and logica-

PYM SLAP

Pym pimpslaps bruce, then Bruce hulks up and kills hank.

Hank Pym-p Slaps Banner in a physical fight.

With prep time however, Bruce wins via supreme intelligence. (there is a reason Bruce Banner is called the #1 smartest GOOD GUY)

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: He isn't the smartest good guy. Thats Mr. Fantastic. Also

Hank Pym>Bruce Banner :P

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: He isn't the smartest good guy. Thats Mr. Fantastic. Also

Hank Pym>Bruce Banner :P

How come they said Bruce Banner was the No.1 smart good guy in Fall of The Hulks?

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: because its a hulk story.... of course they over exaggerate Bruce in it...

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: because its a hulk story.... of course they over exaggerate Bruce in it...

Lol, true.

@Power NeXus said:

Hank will slap Bruce to the floor.

He keeps his Pym-p hand strong.

Hanks wins

I'm gonna go devil's advocate and say Banner. When he's well-written, he's pretty resourceful and intense. The Hulk is his inner monster come to life after all. It's not his alter-ego--his opposite--it's his inner rage from being abused as a child--so he could possibly focus that psycho character to beat Pym. Whereas Pym has always seemed kind of bland to me, wife-beating insanity aside.

If it came to brains (which I know is not the focus of the thread), I'd pick Banner over Pym, although I'd have to admit that Pym probably has made more inventions over the course of time. But I think the whole Scientist Supreme thing is one of the dumbest ideas in comics, and Pym is nowhere near the guy to deserve it anyway.

@Owie: Hank is a very physically fit man who has trained. He is a lot stronger then Bruce. Also I would take Pym over Bruce in terms of brains

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

@Owie: Hank is a very physically fit man who has trained. He is a lot stronger then Bruce. Also I would take Pym over Bruce in terms of brains

I will totally give you the fact that Pym is stronger and better trained. I'm banking on Banner being able to pull some nutty move out of his butt. The person who wants to win the most can sometimes win just because of that motivation. (And, of course, sometimes they don't.)

@angryvigilante: I think Bruce in close fight

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek it didn't say Bruce was the smartest good guy. It said "with Mr. Fantastic, and Hank Pym out of the picture, I'm the smartest 'Good Guy' left on the Planet" or something to that effect (I don't think their counting mutated beings, extraterrestrials, or mystical intelligence, etc...I've done a lot of research into the supposed "8 smartest men on the Planet") For the record Norman Osbourn said "he [Bruce Banner] is is probably the 4th smartest person on the Planet" Ironically, before even reading this, I had come to the same conclusion. My guess is, the 3 before him are 1.) Mr. Fantastic (duh) 2.) Dr. Doom (when he's not under the effects of a dumb ray) 3.) Hank Pym (from the context of another quote I read, that I can't remember at the moment)

In answer to the original question, Banner has been through quite a lot running and hiding from the government, but if they're constrained to an office building, there's not gonna be many places to hide, or run to, and I'm sure Hank is the better fighter...even if his most famous combatant was his wife. Bruce has proved he's a great hacker, and made a teleportation device using an iPod (damn that's resourceful!...about as unrealistic as you can get, but when are comics not) With that many computers lying around, I'm sure he could think of something, but I'm a bit doubtful he could make it in time. More over, I'd say while Bruce is more resourceful, Hank is certainly the better inventor, only question is if Hank would think to actually TRY to make something (he's not especially bright in the common sense or knowing ppl department, so he might not think to try to out inventing Bruce/realize Bruce might try to invent something out of the computers) Still, in a well written comic, I'm sure he would, and if GREG PAK (biggest Bruce/Hulk fan I've seen as a writer) even suggests that Pym might be smarter than Bruce, I'll take his word for it (grudgingly of course, given than I'm the biggest Bruce Banner fan I know of) More over, as I said, depending on how big the building was, I think Pym would find Bruce, and beat him senseless before Bruce had time to make anything useful enough to beat him. Bruce's best bet would be hack into the computers, find him on one of the computer's web cams and send a virus to those computers that would result in all of the computers surrounding him exploding. But I'm sure Hank could probably think up that and more if he's as intelligent as Pak suggests he is, so I'd give this one to Hank 4 times out of 5.

Hank with and without prep time

@Power NeXus said:

Hank will slap Bruce to the floor.

He keeps his Pym-p hand strong.

Hitting women proves that Pym will beat Banner? 0_0;

Tech Bruce might wins. 
Without Tech. Bruce is a wimp. So Pym. 

@angryvigilante said:

No powers or tech.
They fight in a large office building where they must find each other
They both do have a small pistol. The building is full of computer equipment
and anything else you would find in an office building.

Well if they both have a gun it could go either way.

@8bitGangsta ...way to elaborate. with prep time, Bruce would get his ass handed to him without powers. Without prep time...as I said, Bruce is the more resourceful of the two. In this particular situation, I think Hank might win, but in a more open environment, without preptime, and with more variables, I think Bruce would pull through.

...I put way too much thought into this, buuuut: now that I think of it: Situation 1: Hank runs over, finds Bruce, shoots him. Situation 2: Bruce stays hidden, and eventually ambushes Hank with the gun for the win. Situation 3: Bruce invents something out of the computers to defeat Hank, and uses it to over power Hank. Situation 4: Hank also thinks to invent something, and out invents Bruce, using his invention to defeat him. Situation 5: Hank invents something while Bruce doesn't and is killed with the use of said invention. Situation 6: Bruce finds him, sees what he's created, and runs away, but is eventually recaptured and killed. Situation 7: Bruce sees Hanks invention, and goes to try to out invent him, but fails, and is killed. Situation 8: Bruce tries to kill Hank directly instead of going against his invention, sneaks up behind him, and kills him. Situation 9: After running away from Hank and his invention, Bruce tries to kill him, but is spotted, and killed by Hank. Situation 10: Bruce tries to invent something, but is found by Hank before he can finish, and Hank shoots him. Situation 11: Bruce sees Hank behind him as he is inventing, and shoots him. Situation 12: Bruce hacks into the computers, finds Hank on the webcams, and uses it to cause an explosion that kills Hank. (based on his personality, Pym would be unlikely to try the same plan, he's just not the hacker type) Situation 13: Hank notices, that the computers are being hacked, and gets away from the explosion just in time, proceeding to get out of the range of the the web cam's line of site. Eventually, he finds Banner, and shoots him. Situation 14: Bruce goes looking for Hank in person, finds him, and shoots him. That's 8 wins for Hank 6 for Bruce.

Hank wins exactly 4/7 times, so Bruce has approximately a 43% chance of winning. He has defied the odds before (a result of his resourcefulness and intuitiveness regarding people, which is hard to factor into situational probabilities) but I did try to make up for that by the types of situations I chose to factor in, so over all, I'll stick to those odds, maybe a bit higher or lower, but I'd say Pym gets the marginal win here. But as I said, Bruce's chances would be much higher in a different setting.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning ...damn...I had to totally redo that thing when I renewed the page, read your post and realized I forgot to factor in guns (Still, thanks, that upped Bruce's chances of winning by 18%)

Banner lays down a Bob Reynold One-Shotting punch.

In my mind this is pretty much @ghostravage vs @beaconofstrength

wut. One of them is a wife beater and the other turns into a green pile of muscle?

hank

Pym

@darthaznable: the OP means in regards of their base forms.

A gun is rather useless in the hands of people like them. Might go to Bruce since i haven't seen Pym using a gun whereas Bruce spent plenty of time shooting people with a taser and shooting Hulk while trying to take him down. Then the whole calculating brain comes to mind as well. Either way, this battle is boring.

Pym has more experience fighting other depowered heroes. Just ask Wasp.