Two weeks prep/training for both. Fight takes place in the octagon, standard UFC championship fight rules. Who wins?
Brock Lesnar vs Kingpin
Brock has picked up some big mofo's in his time, Paul White as an example
I can see a double leg followed up by some G&P here.
With UFC rules, brock FTW.
" @CapitolPunishment: nope kingpin wont be taken down by brock he's fought spiderman and spiderman said his grip was like a vice. He's extremely strong for a human. "
He also fights extemeley dirty, uses steriod typre substances/surems to amp his strength, speed reflexes, brass knuckles, tech, body armor etc.
These are UFC rules so he will not have any of that at his disposal.
" @CapitolPunishment: and yet he is still so much better in most ways. He has also took out rooms of martial arts experts with no dirty fighting just wearing sumo attire and he wasnt touched. If he takes down or hits brock lesnar then he's pretty much won straight away and lesnar isn't known for ducking and weaving. "
"rooms of martial arts experts". I'm sorry, I do not see a bunch of 5"3' 140lbs Asian men being on par with Brock.
Kingpin destroys Brock Lesnar, not even close. Kingpin is 6'7 450 solid muscle and intelligent. Lesnar is 6'3 265 and not that smart. Hammerhead might have been a better fight
" @CapitolPunishment: didn't say they were but what makes you think they were all small lightweight people. I'm sure brock couldnt clear that room without being hurt or even hit. Plus i find it very hard to beleive brock can hurt kingpin enough he's like 600 lbs of solid muscle when that hits you or charges at you you've lost because he's stuck in the octagon with that. "
This guy is 500+ pounds, I know its just wrestling but it shows he has no trouble picking up and hold someone in the iar that size. He could easily take down Kingpin.
" @CapitolPunishment:
Kingpin wins with Ease. Hes much Stronger, much faster, and much more skilled.
"
Showing a picture of a Large, fat mobster proves nothing at all.
Also if spidey is hurt and can be held by his grip then he can plough straight through lesnar.
I posted the picture cause it is cool and because he is the winner of your match.
Posting a video of a fictional match was a great argument as it proves the only way Lesnar would win is in a scripted match. I do believe Lenar has what it takes to fight men his size in real life. Not a fictional character that is not fat but trained over sized muscle that allows him to fight meta-human beings. You can't compare a fictional fighter to a Comic Book one.
" @CapitolPunishment: I posted the picture cause it is cool and because he is the winner of your match. Posting a video of a fictional match was a great argument as it proves the only way Lesnar would win is in a scripted match. I do believe Lenar has what it takes to fight men his size in real life. Not a fictional character that is not fat but trained over sized muscle that allows him to fight meta-human beings. You can't compare a fictional fighter to a Comic Book one. "
What I posted was indeed a scripted match but I did not post it to show his scripted win over Paul White. I posted that video it to show that Brock Lesnar has absolutely no problem at all lifting a 500+ pound man in the air, holding him over his head for 10 seconds, spinning his entire body around like a yoyo then slamming him to the ground.
Please don't misunderstand what I was getting at there. I am in no way saying that he would do that to the Kingpin but it does however show he has sufficient strength to take the Kingpin (a 500lb+ man) down to the ground.
Although Brock is only about 300lbs or so, he is extremely strong even for his size. His trainers have said on multiple occasions that "Brock is a 300 pound man but has the strength of a 500 man, he his deceivingly strong for his size". By all definitions he is a above Peak human conditioning.
" @CapitolPunishment: I know Lesnar is strong. His off Seaon Training Regiment was mine for this past season and I still can't comprehend how he does it. I am currently training with the intent of dropping weight but I weigh 280 after going under his regiment and a High protein Diet. I understand he is strong even for his already massive size but he is not Peak Human. It says that kingpin is Peak Human Strength for a man his size and weight. According to marvel he should be able to lift press around twice his weight but they list it as a minimum of 650. This implies to an overhead Military press not a shoulder squat or chest press but the full amount of weight over head. Plus he is faster then average humans. I do believe Lesnar is the living equivalent of an above human Street level character but he just does not compare. Kingpin though human is still a character based in fiction. "
Nice post here man, good job.
Brock still has a good shot at this, Kinpin has done nothing impressive enough to show that Brock couldnt G&P him.
"@ThaMessenger07 said:" @CapitolPunishment: I know Lesnar is strong. His off Seaon Training Regiment was mine for this past season and I still can't comprehend how he does it. I am currently training with the intent of dropping weight but I weigh 280 after going under his regiment and a High protein Diet. I understand he is strong even for his already massive size but he is not Peak Human. It says that kingpin is Peak Human Strength for a man his size and weight. According to marvel he should be able to lift press around twice his weight but they list it as a minimum of 650. This implies to an overhead Military press not a shoulder squat or chest press but the full amount of weight over head. Plus he is faster then average humans. I do believe Lesnar is the living equivalent of an above human Street level character but he just does not compare. Kingpin though human is still a character based in fiction. "Nice post here man, good job. Brock still has a good shot at this, Kinpin has done nothing impressive enough to show that Brock couldnt G&P him. "
really? explain please
" @Shadowglenn said:Haha so basically he'd be disqualified and Brock would win by default." @CapitolPunishment: nope kingpin wont be taken down by brock he's fought spiderman and spiderman said his grip was like a vice. He's extremely strong for a human. "He also fights extemeley dirty, uses steriod typre substances/surems to amp his strength, speed reflexes, brass knuckles, tech, body armor etc. These are UFC rules so he will not have any of that at his disposal. "
" @ThaMessenger07 said:Except, y'know, fighting far more skilled opponents and holding his own. And considering the strength and speed advantage Fisk has, Brocks going to get knocked silly." @CapitolPunishment: I know Lesnar is strong. His off Seaon Training Regiment was mine for this past season and I still can't comprehend how he does it. I am currently training with the intent of dropping weight but I weigh 280 after going under his regiment and a High protein Diet. I understand he is strong even for his already massive size but he is not Peak Human. It says that kingpin is Peak Human Strength for a man his size and weight. According to marvel he should be able to lift press around twice his weight but they list it as a minimum of 650. This implies to an overhead Military press not a shoulder squat or chest press but the full amount of weight over head. Plus he is faster then average humans. I do believe Lesnar is the living equivalent of an above human Street level character but he just does not compare. Kingpin though human is still a character based in fiction. "Nice post here man, good job. Brock still has a good shot at this, Kinpin has done nothing impressive enough to show that Brock couldnt G&P him. "
" @Shadowglenn said:...I'm also kinda offended by this. As a ninja myself, we're not all 5'3 and weight 140 lbs. Or even Asian." @CapitolPunishment: and yet he is still so much better in most ways. He has also took out rooms of martial arts experts with no dirty fighting just wearing sumo attire and he wasnt touched. If he takes down or hits brock lesnar then he's pretty much won straight away and lesnar isn't known for ducking and weaving. ""rooms of martial arts experts". I'm sorry, I do not see a bunch of 5"3' 140lbs Asian men being on par with Brock. "
"king pins win, here a factTwo weeks prep/training for both. Fight takes place in the octagon, standard UFC championship fight rules. Who wins?
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hes a king, and he can pin anyone like human
Thank you! :)
Honestly the fact that Kingpin doesn't get g&p by Spider-Man should be convincing enough.
" @CapitolPunishment: Thank you! :) Honestly the fact that Kingpin doesn't get g&p by Spider-Man should be convincing enough. "Considering that Spider-Man holds back against Fisk, I don't think that's an argument one can really hld to. If he wanted to g&p Fisk, he would.
Super-human strength is consider at the level of 800 pounds. So Brock is about a 100 pounds or 200 off from being peak human.
"Superman strength is consider at the level of 800 pounds. So Brock is about a 100 pounds or 200 off from being peak human. "
Brock can deadliftt 800 lbs (he deadlifts 720 multiple times in his workouts), bench over 500lbs (he works out with 425) and squat over 700lbs (He works out with 695)..He is very agile, fast and has very good endurance. I would say that is above peak human conditioning to the very definition.
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