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Brainiac has 3 days prep

Any version of Brainiac can be used

616 versions of Marvel characters

To Death or K.O

No BFR

Battle takes place on Moon

Round 1. Captain America and Winter Soldier

Round 2. Spiderman and Venom

Round 3. Agent Venom and Carnage

Round 4. Ironman and War Machine

Round 5. Savage Hulk

Round 6. Thor

Round 7. Dr Strange

Round 8. Thanos

How far will he get or will he clear...

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@leonkarlen123: Do any of the Marvel characters get notice or prep?

If so, he gets stopped at 4.

If not, 5.

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@leonkarlen123: Then Savage Hulk rips him apart, if Leader can't find a way to contain Hulk after years of study and research, Brainiac has zero chance.

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#5  Edited By leonkarlen123

@leonkarlen123: Then Savage Hulk rips him apart, if Leader can't find a way to contain Hulk after years of study and research, Brainiac has zero chance.

Brainiac has at times beaten Superman, once even without kryptontie in his own ship.. He found Superman's weakness, he can find Banner's.

Brainiac > Leader

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@leonkarlen123: And Tony Stark developed Hulkbuster armor.... look how that worked out, Hulk picked it apart. Besides, he only has three days to study Hulk and prepare for him, that's certainly not enough time to fully develop a countermeasure.

And Hulk doesn't have many weaknesses, none that are like Kryptonite or Red Sun Radiation. The only one you can consider is draining his gamma or effecting his emotions, but both have backfired as he can always make more, people have tried to siphon off his gamma many times, the machines either explode or he rips them apart.

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@leonkarlen123: And Tony Stark developed Hulkbuster armor.... look how that worked out, Hulk picked it apart. Besides, he only has three days to study Hulk and prepare for him, that's certainly not enough time to fully develop a countermeasure.

And Hulk doesn't have many weaknesses, none that are like Kryptonite or Red Sun Radiation. The only one you can consider is draining his gamma or effecting his emotions, but both have backfired as he can always make more, people have tried to siphon off his gamma many times, the machines either explode or he rips them apart.

Stark is nowhere close to Brainiac's intelligence. Tony is limited to a human intelligence, Brainiac is a alien, his brain works like a computer, he knows nearly everything there is to know about the Universe since he experienced it but he just have to find it. He has gathered tech from hundreds of planets so he has a huge weapon arsenal. Not to mention, he has insane durability because he is staggering around with Superman who is at base much stronger than Hulk.

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#9  Edited By conner_wolf

@leonkarlen123: And Tony is connected to technology, he's technically a Cyborg, just a very minor one. He can enhance his processing power with his tech, and his actual node gives him an enhanced IQ. Even if he doesn't have Brainiac's intelligence, he has all the prep he needed and still lost, Brainiac has limited time.

"At base much stronger than Hulk" Yeah, why does Hulk have to start out at base? That's always been the dumbest thing I hear in comic debates, the thought that Hulk needs to start out at his lowest possibly strength, he can go straight into one of his strongest forms as Hulk, he does it all the time.

Besides, that's a low showing for Superman.

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@leonkarlen123: And Tony is connected to technology, he's technically a Cyborg, just a very minor one. He can enhance his processing power with his tech, and his actual node gives him an enhanced IQ. Even if he doesn't have Brainiac's intelligence, he has all the prep he needed and still lost, Brainiac has limited time.

"At base much stronger than Hulk" Yeah, why does Hulk have to start out at base? That's always been the dumbest thing I hear in comic debates, the thought that Hulk needs to start out at his lowest possibly strength, he can go straight into one of his strongest forms as Hulk, he does it all the time.

Besides, that's a low showing for Superman.

Because anger is what amps Hulk's strength, that is exactly why and i am the OP so i can decide if Hulk starts out bloodlusted or not. Show me Savage Hulk coming close to Superman's strength straight in...

Why would it be a low showing? couple pages before he was lifting Earth, you call that a low showing too?

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@leonkarlen123: Why does it have to be Savage Hulk? If he can turn straight into another form and be at high strength, he should be able to transform into Savage Hulk and be at high strength. As you said, it all has to do with his rage, so if he gets angry enough as Banner, to be that strong, then he'll be that strong, it doesn't need to be a slow progression. He doesn't need to just turn into Hulk and destroy a planet for that to be true.

Besides, a weaker Hulk-Joe Fixit-busted an asteroid with a single punch and he wasn't angry at all. Savage Hulk at his base is much stronger than Joe Fixit at his base. So if you really want him to start at base, then I can play that game.

And Superman had expended himself quite a bit in that effort right before that happening.

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@leonkarlen123: Why does it have to be Savage Hulk? If he can turn straight into another form and be at high strength, he should be able to transform into Savage Hulk and be at high strength. As you said, it all has to do with his rage, so if he gets angry enough as Banner, to be that strong, then he'll be that strong, it doesn't need to be a slow progression. He doesn't need to just turn into Hulk and destroy a planet for that to be true.

Besides, a weaker Hulk-Joe Fixit-busted an asteroid with a single punch and he wasn't angry at all. Savage Hulk at his base is much stronger than Joe Fixit at his base. So if you really want him to start at base, then I can play that game.

And Superman had expended himself quite a bit in that effort right before that happening.

I don't understand your logic really, I choosed Savage Hulk for a reason and he can't really turn World Breaker at will..

Grey Hulk busted a asteroid, so what? That asteroid was not even that big, plus asteroids are basically rock, street levelers punch through stone at a daily basis.

lol what's your point with that? When I am tired after long practices i can still punch pretty damn hard.

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@leonkarlen123: The logic is that if I can hit a bullseye on one dart board, hitting it on another would be just as easy. Just because he can't go world-breaker at will, doesn't mean he can't turn straight into an extremely strong Savage Hulk. He isn't just World Breaker Hulk because he's angry, that's when every personality in his head work together instead of fight each other, which is why he's so strong in that form, he doesn't fight himself anymore.

So if he can go, on a scale of one to ten, nine on a strength level in World-Breaker Hulk form, he can do it in Savage Hulk form.

It was 2x the size of Earth. "Not that big" he says.

Yes, but you didn't lift Earth, and it's a comic book. That kind of stuff happens on the regular.

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#16  Edited By leonkarlen123

@leonkarlen123: The logic is that if I can hit a bullseye on one dart board, hitting it on another would be just as easy. Just because he can't go world-breaker at will, doesn't mean he can't turn straight into an extremely strong Savage Hulk. He isn't just World Breaker Hulk because he's angry, that's when every personality in his head work together instead of fight each other, which is why he's so strong in that form, he doesn't fight himself anymore.

So if he can go, on a scale of one to ten, nine on a strength level in World-Breaker Hulk form, he can do it in Savage Hulk form.

It was 2x the size of Earth. "Not that big" he says.

Yes, but you didn't lift Earth, and it's a comic book. That kind of stuff happens on the regular.

Yeah because this really look twice the size of earth.............. Plus he said Hulk had help with his magnetic technology, he just flew through it, he didn't use strength he only used durability at a high speed.

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#17  Edited By conner_wolf

@leonkarlen123: It was directly stated to be 2x the size of Earth, it's Silver Age Drawing, planets can be the size of your living room, don't question it.

And Joe himself stated the Jet pack only helped a little.

And he jumped, it wasn't just a jetpack, it was his own momentum and that of the Jetpack's, besides, whatever force it lended him was very little, it wasn't like he was moving Lightspeed.

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#18  Edited By leonkarlen123

@conner_wolf said:

@leonkarlen123: It was directly stated to be 2x the size of Earth, it's Silver Age Drawing, planets can be the size of your living room, don't question it.

And Joe himself stated the Jet pack only helped a little.

And he jumped, it wasn't just a jetpack, it was his own momentum and that of the Jetpack's, besides, whatever force it lended him was very little, it wasn't like he was moving Lightspeed.

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?s=38fcd347f89a9fe3db48d3cc737c47d5&b=17847&page=2

Read that, there is good discussions about what happened there...

There is also something called Plot induced stupidity, Grey Hulk is class 100 according to Marvel.

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Stops at 7. Brainiac is one of DC's best preppers.

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If you give Brainiac the feats of any version of the character and 3 days of prep, most of the characters on the gauntlet are hilariously outmatched. The only real contender is Thanos, and depending on what Brainiac cooks up he could get his ass kicked too.

Brainiac has wiped out solar systems, so I don't get what the fixation with Hulk being able to destroy a planet is about.

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Stop at 8 . Hulk are Thor are weaklings here .Thanos stomps Braniac in a good fight

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@conner_wolf said:

@leonkarlen123: And Tony Stark developed Hulkbuster armor.... look how that worked out, Hulk picked it apart. Besides, he only has three days to study Hulk and prepare for him, that's certainly not enough time to fully develop a countermeasure.

And Hulk doesn't have many weaknesses, none that are like Kryptonite or Red Sun Radiation. The only one you can consider is draining his gamma or effecting his emotions, but both have backfired as he can always make more, people have tried to siphon off his gamma many times, the machines either explode or he rips them apart.

Stark is nowhere close to Brainiac's intelligence. Tony is limited to a human intelligence, Brainiac is a alien, his brain works like a computer, he knows nearly everything there is to know about the Universe since he experienced it but he just have to find it. He has gathered tech from hundreds of planets so he has a huge weapon arsenal. Not to mention, he has insane durability because he is staggering around with Superman who is at base much stronger than Hulk.

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Yeah at base he is "stronger" at lifting.

At striking?

PFFFT.

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@saren: Yeah, and i put savage hulk not WBH which other people don't understand.

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I think he stops at Thor

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He should clear.

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7-8 at the very most.

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Lol at some of these. Brainiac versus cap and bucky? Really? Why not the punisher? SURELY that would be a good matchup right?

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Stops at Thanos or clears.

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#33  Edited By DrF8

@conner_wolf said:

@leonkarlen123: And Tony is connected to technology, he's technically a Cyborg, just a very minor one. He can enhance his processing power with his tech, and his actual node gives him an enhanced IQ. Even if he doesn't have Brainiac's intelligence, he has all the prep he needed and still lost, Brainiac has limited time.

"At base much stronger than Hulk" Yeah, why does Hulk have to start out at base? That's always been the dumbest thing I hear in comic debates, the thought that Hulk needs to start out at his lowest possibly strength, he can go straight into one of his strongest forms as Hulk, he does it all the time.

Besides, that's a low showing for Superman.

Are you arguing about Tony Stark being smarter than Braniac? 3 days prep for Braniac is enough to prepare for Thanos. He is probably the most inteligent and the smartest creature in the universe ( except for all the nigh-omnipotent and omnipotent guys and gods and stuff like hat ). He has gathered tech from all over the universe ( before destroying a planet or civilisation ( he has destroyed thousands if not hundereds of thousands ) he gathers all it's tech and knowledge ). He is beating Superman, Justice League and many various other superheroes on a daily basis ( when he appears ). And every single one of his appearances in comics create great and epic events that are threatening the entire universe. God dammit. BRANIAC IS A MULTIVERSAL THREAT.

That's called a butthurt.

Anyway :

Round 1. Captain America and Winter Soldier - Braniac stomps.

Round 2. Spiderman and Venom - Braniac stomps.

Round 3. Agent Venom and Carnage - Braniac stomps.

Round 4. Ironman and War Machine - Braniac stomps.

Round 5. Savage Hulk - Braniac stomps.

Round 6. Thor - Brainiac wins easily.

Round 7. Dr Strange - Braniac stomps.

Round 8. Thanos - Braniac. With Thanos being able to take 3-4 victories /10

People seem to not understand that the OP said we can use ANY VERSION of Braniac. Even the most powerful ones. Pretty much everyone besides MAYBE Thanos get stomped so hard their mothers can feel it.

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#34  Edited By micah007123

Stops at 7 or 8. He won't be clearing IMO.

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There is no way Brainiac beat Thanos. So he definitely not clear.

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@drfate: I'm sorry, no. Very very much no.

Brainiac is not a multiversal threat and if you wanna claim that, you'd better have some pretty good evidence.

And even if he was, in that case, Savage Hulk has caused chaos throughout the entire multiverse and it's infinite dimensions as a result of one of his fights, since apparently we can claim whatever we want.

Even if you think he'd beat Hulk, Brainiac is not beating Thor, period, and if you think he can, I can play that game. Knocking out the Phoenix Force, beating Glory-with the power of Ten Thousand Pantheons, twice, beating Gor the God Butcher, crushing the heart of Demorgore, and even fending off Galactus with a nice bullrush.

As for beating Thanos? Thanos' mind is at the very least on-par with Brainiac's, if not, infinitely surpasses his. You know how smart Thanos is? Galactus, who was the greatest scientist in the known universe beforehand and baffled even Reed Richards with his tech, was left speechless in the face of Thanos' tech.

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It's interesting how people keep saying that he stops at Rounds in which he wouldn't even have problems with anyone. If we get to use each version of Brainiac he would be able to kick even Thanos' ass with ease.

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#40  Edited By vinomonster

Futures End Brainiac might clear this.

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@conner_wolf: current brainiac is multiuniversal that's the reason why Convergence is happening.

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#42  Edited By Lucano

LOL At people trying to make an argument for Hulk.

Current Brainiac clears with high difficulty at round 8.

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@vinomonster: Is he causing the Convergence through technology, or does he have an ability of reality warping now that I haven't read about? Because if using technology puts you on a multiversal level, Reed was in possession of the Ultimate Nullifier at one point, which can wipe out entire universes and timelines, was he multiversal at that point? Iron Man can make any armor to manipulate beings like the Phoenix Force, does that make him Multiversal? Doom powerjacked Galactus at some point, a massively powerful being who can step in and out of this universe and others, so tell me, does that make Doom Multiversal?

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I think the most powerful version of Brainiac has potential.

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@conner_wolf: Your hilarious.

1. Possessing the UN, or any multiversal object that you can control, makes you multiversal.

2. Iron man can't do that.

3. After doom powerjacked him, yes, he was extremely powerful, but not multiversal.

What's your point? If you control tech that can destroy universes, your universal. It's not that hard to understand. The weird thing is that your still here, still low balling, even after Saren came and put a stop to your little hulk thing.