Boxing vs Karate
" @RetolledTruth said:Both guys the guys with uniforms on are wearing white belts too. And none of them seemed to have any force behind their kicks at all, whereas the boxer's punches were echoing throughout the room. I don't know what the nature of the match-ups were, but it seems incredibly uneven. Obviously an experienced boxer will have an advantage over a neophyte in any martial art."Tomfoolery. Those dudes were most likely novices. No one who practices Karate and is good at it should be that overwhelmed, IMO. The last dude barely threw a punch. "These Guys were B1tches though... "
" @Formidable said:Good to meet you too. You're right, some Kyokushin sparring is simply attacking to the torso to toughen the core and desensitize the body to pain." @Static Shock said:Your first time here in Comicvine? It's nice to meet you =) Kyokushin Karate guys are very crazy. They don't block a lot, though they still do. They just keep hitting and getting hit. "Boxing doesn't have kicks." Boxing has stronger punches. Karate has stronger kicks. "
Depends on which style of Karate. Kyokushin Karate concentrates a lot on full contact sparring which helps with a fighters timing and footwork (2 aspects of boxing which make it so effective) so in theory it can be equally as dangerous. "
" Neither style is superior.The skill level of the user is. "Generally speaking though, Karate may be superior.Karate has punching,kicking and grappling techniques.People who learn Karate and use it at a high level have been taught to reverse many different combat situations and to strike all over the body using different parts of the body. Boxers are trained to guard and attack but against other boxers which would mean their best guarding tactics are against punches only.
Boxing gives you better real world knowledge early in the training, Karate gives you better real world knowledge in the long run.
It takes more time to master the ability to throw kicks without leaving yourself open to take-downs, or to maintain your balance. Karate also trains you to be more open to the variety of attacks at your disposal, and also prepares you to defend against a wider range of attacks.
Basic boxing techniques are easier to master, since they deal with punches and slips and that ony means mobility of the upper body, keeping both feet firmly on the ground. it is easier to get a hold of jabs, hooks, uppercuts than round-house kicks, and they are easier to implement.
Putting the two styles against one another:
In a boxing match, where both combatants use only their hands, Boxers win. they are trained more specific for this kind of combat, the same way a guy who makes only tables will be better at making tables than a guy who builds houses. The guy who builds houses has better general knowledge. He would have a much wider skill set and he could certainly make a table, but the guy who does nothing BUT make tables will have him beat in this category. The table maker will have a harder tiem tackling building the whole house.
Put a skilled boxer and a skilled karate technician in a street fight, anticipating that both have studied ONLY boxing or ONLY karate, then the karate technician will have the greater advantage, having a full working knowledge of how to use all of his limbs to deal damage, and defend.
@Static Shock said:
" Boxing has stronger punches. Karate has stronger kicks. "
@Static Shock said:
The comparison is boxing and karate. When you state that "boxing has stronger punches" you are comparing them to Karates punches. When you state that Karate has stronger kicks you are making a comparison. Stronger kicks than what? Presumably Boxing as Boxing vs Karate is the subject of the forum." @Formidable said:
Exactly. That was basically my point. "" Boxing doesn't have kicks.
A more accurate statement of your opinion would be "Boxing has stronger punches. Karate has kicks". Not stronger kicks, as boxing doesn't have kicks.
Karate has dvelved more into the world of the McDojos these days. But it really depends on the practicionar. But with all this being said, both arts can be very deadly, boxing even more so.
Since we're talking about Bruce Lee. He started as a Wing Chun stylist, but moved on to create his own martial art called Jeet Kun Do (Way of the Intercepting Fist) he also called his method "Hit back first". His idea was to study many forms of martial arts, then take what worked and incorporate it into his personal style, then teach others to do the same. He studied (probably more, but these are the ones I know of) Tae Kwon Do, Fencing, Shoto Khan Karate, Jiu Jitsu, WESTERN BOXING, Savatte ...and again, probably others. However, that was his passion and how he pretty much earned his living. It's not realistic to expect most people to do this kind of thing.
As to which discipline is better Boxing or Karate (as a few have said before, which STYLE of Karate?) even at the same level of training, a LOT depends on the individual practitioner. Anyone who says different is probably trying to sell you on a school, is very very VERY in love with his/her system, doesn't know squat, or hasn't been in or seen many real fights.
Just my opinion.
He studied (probably more, but these are the ones I know of) Tae Kwon Do, Fencing, Shoto Khan Karate, Jiu Jitsu, WESTERN BOXING, Savatte ...and again, probably others.
Props for mentioning fencing. Most people forget that.
He studied (probably more, but these are the ones I know of) Tae Kwon Do, Fencing, Shoto Khan Karate, Jiu Jitsu, WESTERN BOXING, Savatte ...and again, probably others.
Props for mentioning fencing. Most people forget that.
I would imagine that it helped with balance and lunging which would probably be useful in his "single direct attack" method in The Five Ways of Attack. That's just a SWAG though.
Which style of Karate? There are a lot of different styles - two main ones are Point Karate (no contact Shotokan blitzes - the most popular version) and Full Contact (Hard contact - pretty much kickboxing but with no head punches).
I'd say a boxer beats a Point Karateka the vast majority of the time. Point Karate fighters are good at getting in and landing, however they have zero concept of exiting from striking exchanges safely. e.g. landing the rear cross and just standing there bc the match ends. A good boxer can capitalise on this through counter punching. e.g. - right cross from the karateka would immediately be countered by something like a left hook.
A Full Contact fighter would be tough for the boxer though. They are well known for their toughness. If the Full Contact fighter takes an outfighting kicking approach they'd have the advantage. Also, low kicks are a boxer's kryptonite. There's the odd chance the boxer could K.O the Karateka early given that no head punches are legal in Full Contact Karate, but I'd give the Karate fighter a better chance here.
Overall in terms of coolness I'd say Boxing and Full Contact are pretty even. Heck even Full contact might be cooler since you get to see a crazy spinning kick knockout every so often. Boxing is just continuous action throughout. Point Karate is pretty boring to watch tbh. Good entries but every fight gets stopped after like the 1st strike lands so they can award a point. Hard to watch, too many interruptions.
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