Bounty R1: cmcmcmcm vs cjdavis103 (Voting)

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#1  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

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  • Leader: commander sheapard ( composite no Cain)
  • Specialist: Han jee han ( no SMB)
  • Bruiser: aksime
  • Sniper: Mine ( Akame ga kiru)
  • New guy: Richard (standard feats )

@cmcmcmcm

  • The Leader: The Shadow
  • The Specialist: Alexander Anderson
  • The Bruiser: Walter C. Dolneas
  • The Sniper: T-800
  • the New Guy: Seras Victoria

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Good day gentlemen. We at Abstergo Industries believe in hiring the best, and your the best. This job is very important to us. We have located some packages stolen by a unknown groups called Helghast and ISA. Either way we wish to get these packages back. We have created a cease fire situation so you and another team can get our property back. You will find three packages mark in yellow with our company logo stamped on it. Bring these 200 pound, 3 foot all around packages back to us in one piece by making it back to your start point. Do not destroy them in any way. Whoever gets the most packages, gets a chance at other jobs that need to be done.

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Top Team is Red, Bottom Team is Blue. Both the Helghast and ISA will be busy with negotiations. However if you encounter a enemy trying to steal our packages, you take them out. Whoever brings the most packages back to us win the bid. Good luck.

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@sirfizzwhizz:

Interesting Number of solders for both sides?

and does our teams have time to get to know each outher before the match starts?

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@cjdavis103: due to the cease fire, your team and the enemy team is the only people on the battle field.

Teams only have as much knowledge each other as they can learn in a bar setting having drinks with each other. Basic info on each other.

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@sirfizzwhizz: okay so they have met before I'm asking because my leader is going to play a big role in this

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@sirfizzwhizz: okay so they have met before I'm asking because my leader is going to play a big role in this

you want to go first?

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Well lets get this started

at the first meeting of my team at the bar in question my leader will step up to bat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HiRDJLcYua0#t=1

on top of being a badass Shepard has charisma that is borderline supernatural his record includes managing psychotic cremates, having a mad scintest pull a 180, and ending a multi-centrey long war by yelling. he can mange this team.

Morals ,motivation and teamwork

as this plays a part i will break this down

Shepard being a composite character has no qualms about killing as in all fourms he is a solderer first and foremost. he allways gives his all in a fire fight as his life depends on it . and he will be directing his team with his aburd level of charisma

Han Jee Jan is a corner stone for my team for many reasons but this i will covor this latter. Moral ,motivation and teamwork wise Han is covered by this ability of his

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Basicly this allows Han to function Logicly bypassing his normal morals in a life and death battle ... like this one.

Mine ( yes that's her name werid translation) is an assain of night raid she has no problems killing morals wise, as for teamwork give sheapard 5 miniutes and she will be working well with most of my group ( 1 exception but i will cover that later )

Akisime is a master martail artist from HSDK. Morals wise he will be the most troblesome of my team as he has a strict no kill policy but lucky for me he has worked with people who can before. combining that with 5 minutes in sheapards company and he will be willing to work with most the group. he will also get the benefit of the gamer's mind ( will cover this later) so the likely hold of him working with my group is much higer

And finally we come to the mavrick of my group Richard Lord of the dead, master of the 13 hells ,Mistress of magma, lord of dance and mayor of a little village down the coast ( it's very scenic). Morals wise Richard is troublesome but in a different way

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Lucky for my team Sheapard specializes in keeping loose cannons directed in the right direction I.E your team and Richard is easily persuaded by the promise of carnage

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Now Lets get to the plan

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Key

Red Richard

Blue Aksime

green Sheapard

Black Mine

grey Han

Step 1

Han will invite Sheapard Mine and Aksime to his party

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this Gives those people on my team 2 abilitys that are crucial

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Gamers mind lets them make logical desions and makes their morals interfier less

Gamers body is particularly interesting as it gives my team damage soak

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Here is a preety good demonstration of how the gamer power handles damage. it takes the damage from a blow ( in this case a broken back) and quantifies it into a number in this case that number is 150HP. that number is static to the injury and not the amont of force behind the blow ( if someone Like Shepard took the same blow he would take far and away less) and this was before he gained any points in VIT so People Like Akisime and Sheapard would have far more then his base number at that level ( 1850 HP)

on top of this he will Give every member of my team Buffs

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a couple of notes for this

Troll regen adds to the targets original regen which is included in VIT Meaning Akisime and Mine have regen at or above 72 HP per minute and sheapard has His high vit and his own healing factor so i would not be surprised if his HP recovery is above 100 HP

to put this boost in perspective 5 STR is about as strong as a normal person after boost Han can do this

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this is particularly useful for akisime increasing his strength

and Bronze skin stacks with durability it only enhances not weakens

these steps will only take a few seconds

now My team will split up

Sheapard Akisime and Richard will head towards the packages via Aksime carreying them at high way speeds

With shepard reduceing their weight using Biotics this is quite easy

from here Aksime pulls 2 fastball specais

Richard gets sent towards whoever is comeing to pick up the packages Like so

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Once landing at the designated place Richard deploys his second party trick he likes to call it

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this will delay your team for a time but richard is not one for waiting around so he will come to fight you

I notice that you have 2 Undead vampires on your team .... sorry bad luck because Richard is not called lord of the dead for no reason he is a powerful Necromancer capable of sustaining his own Town of undead. controlling 2 undead while not having to fuel his town will be childs play.

And he if he dosent he has hard counters to vampires

his flames are hot enough to cremate a body ( none fodder either) at the beginning of the series there is no chance of regen for them.

and he has proven his magic can kill intangible beings so that particular parlor trick will not work

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If this link dosent work use this ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d-UkXAFbYZU#t=114)

Richard can chanle his flame to cut clean though bodies or wires whichever is needed

Oh and i see you have a robot on your team tell me how does it handle Lighting?

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incidentally what are those wires of Walter's made of again?

Now I'm not saying richard solos I'm saying he can "Stall" your team while My team prepares

Now affter Richard get's sent flying Sheapard gets tossed right behind him to grab the Box and then Biotic charge back to Akisime

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Who has secured his box. the Commander hands off the Box and finds a spot to hunker down and prepare for your team

Akisime makes the run back to the base with two boxes

Now you should be asking yourself where did...

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Not a bad shot right and not even hitting anyone else well look at how far away that was

you have to use a telescope to see the place let alone the one target among a crowd and yet she does it with no scope

oh and did i metion

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she can fire as fast as she wants

She will be positioned on top of the building marked on the map earlier this Gives her a line of sight on your team and allows her to covor mine in particular Richard allowing him to stall you longer.

her weapon also has a bulit in function the more the user is in danger the stronger it gets so she will know when your team has spoted her and will move accordingly.

That just leaves the Good old Gamer who has called up a friend to assist

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Noum here is an earth elemental which comes with many ability but right now i'm only going to need one. Earth manipulation useing Han's Manna Noum here can create rock sheilds and cover for my team so long as they are on the ground.

I have many more cards to play but that should do as breif outline

your move

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#9  Edited By cmcmcmcm

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Let me introduce my team. First up is the leader. Dynamite Comics The Shadow.

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The Shadow has a major impressive history. He started out as a top spy for America and Russia in WW1. He was also a top sought after military adviser in WW1, training some of the best soldiers. He then turn to crime, and ruled China’s underworld for years with absolute authority. Then he killed all the crime figures in china in a few nights. He then became one of the top business men in America.

As seen he is very decorated in many aspects. He even led a team of super humans like Terror, Green Hornet and Kato, Black Bat, Zorro, Spider, Green Lama, and more in the Masks comics. What really stands out is his useful mystic powers that will help a lot for him as leader. In Tibet, he trained with the monks for years in martial arts, and mystic arts to become an Agent of Fate.

Precognition.

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Pretty simple, he can with a look at a person see the immediate future of that person. This is perfect for forming a strategy against any foe he may face, and a tool to see how his teammates are.

Read Souls.

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This power allows him to glance at the aura of a soul, and learn all the points of interest about them. Allowing Shadow to learn and work with people he never met before.

Cloud Minds.

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This power allows him in battle to cast a large illusion on the minds of any foe in the area to be blinded in all senses to the Shadow and his team. It is only broken when people in the illusion are attacked.

All this will lead to an early advantage in team work, knowledge on the enemy team, and a bonus for first strike capabilities. For gear Shadow will have his dual Colts, Sword, and Tommy Gun.

Next up is the Hellsing characters. Father Alexander Anderson.

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Anderson is a peak human, bio engineered with a healing factor. Trained to fight super humans, and uses unique holy abilities to accomplish this task.

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He possess a large number of blessed bayonets, explosive bayonets, and a unique bible that can create a force field, as well allow teleportation. Anderson has been a trained killer of Vampires, and supernatural beings in a world gone crazy.

Angel of Death, Walter Dorneas.

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Walter is the Hellsing butler turned Vampire at the end. He has extensive skill and training in the killing of any target whether they are a army of soldiers, or a super powerful being like a werewolf or vampire.

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He uses an impossible weapon, in the form of razor wires. These wires are insane powerful and strong before turning a vampire. After turning into an artificial Vampire, Walters wires are capable of devastating abilities. Other than this he possess insane speed, and incredible pain tolerance.

Police Girl, Seras Victoria.

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Seras was a police officer turn Vampire. She was taught under Alucard to what it means to be a creature of the night. She possess incredible tactical knowledge after absorbing her first familiar, Pip.

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She also possesses incredible stats in strength, durability, and speed. She also gains some mental abilities too. Added to being a vampire, she also has access to enough fire power to wreck a squad of tanks.With her Harkonnens, she will wreck.

Last but not least is T-800 model 101.

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T-800 is infiltration unit that can take down a small army. The T-800 is made of Hyper Allow, and possess detail files on infiltration, medical, weapons, and can analyze technology. It is capable of learning, and evolve tactics to keep up with a target.

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The T-800 will be packing weapons in the form the Plasma Gun, Grenade Launcher with Tear Gas and High Explosive rounds, and Shot Gun.

My team work for my team will be much higher than yours honestly. Shadow soul reading will grant detail knowledge of the team other than T-800. The 3 members of Hellsing have all met and gotten along before when called too. They in fact worked together on several occasions. T-800 is not hard to work with, as he has many times been thrown together with people he never met before, and gets along with them in taking orders.

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Here is a preety good demonstration of how the gamer power handles damage. it takes the damage from a blow ( in this case a broken back) and quantifies it into a number in this case that number is 150HP. that number is static to the injury and not the amont of force behind the blow ( if someone Like Shepard took the same blow he would take far and away less) and this was before he gained any points in VIT so People Like Akisime and Sheapard would have far more then his base number at that level ( 1850 HP)

on top of this he will Give every member of my team Buffs

a couple of notes for this

Troll regen adds to the targets original regen which is included in VIT Meaning Akisime and Mine have regen at or above 72 HP per minute and sheapard has His high vit and his own healing factor so i would not be surprised if his HP recovery is above 100 HP

to put this boost in perspective 5 STR is about as strong as a normal person after boost Han can do this

this is particularly useful for akisime increasing his strength

and Bronze skin stacks with durability it only enhances not weakens

these steps will only take a few seconds

Alright, first off, what is this nonsense. None of this crap at all shows any valid quantifiable feats in any way. Its all game mechanics numbers. So all this, invalid. Feats, not made up multipliers and numbers man.

I notice that you have 2 Undead vampires on your team .... sorry bad luck because Richard is not called lord of the dead for no reason he is a powerful Necromancer capable of sustaining his own Town of undead. controlling 2 undead while not having to fuel his town will be childs play.

And he if he dosent he has hard counters to vampires

his flames are hot enough to cremate a body ( none fodder either) at the beginning of the series there is no chance of regen for them.

and he has proven his magic can kill intangible beings so that particular parlor trick will not work

If this link dosent work use this ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d-UkXAFbYZU#t=114)

Second this silliness. First off, Wlater is a artificial Vampire, not even undead. Second Seras has already shrugged off mind control of another Vampire, and I see no feats of Richard affecting Vampires in general. Vampires with mental defenses do not equal fodder zombies or featless ghosts.

Richard can chanle his flame to cut clean though bodies or wires whichever is needed

Oh and i see you have a robot on your team tell me how does it handle Lighting?

Lightning will do nothing to T-800.

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Rips through high power electric fence.

Hit by a hospitable live wires.

Hit with the sum electricity of a city. Back up in minuets.

Lightning, nuff said.

At all.

incidentally what are those wires of Walter's made of again?

Dont know, never stated. Strong enough to force Alucard through a sky scraper.

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Now I'm not saying richard solos I'm saying he can "Stall" your team while My team prepares

Richard is pathetic so far. No where worthy of Stalling my team :)

Your Plan

I just wanted to say, I should have went first. Mainly becuase your whole plan is worthless. As I stated in my intro of my team, Shadow would likely know of this instance by looking t his team mates. He would already know your initial plan here whatever it was.

Second problem is my teams travel speed. It is simply faster than yours, by alot.

Seras, Anderson, and Walter are all Spider Man levels of speed. Normal Vampires can run over 60 MPH in Hellsing, and these 3 blitz those vampires. Hell Seras can fly at incredible speeds.

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Flight fast enough to out speed explosions.

Anderson can Teleport.

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Scans 1, 2-3, and 4 are all him teleporting around with Bible Pages.

Even Shadow has superior speed.

All these scans show the Shadow with insane Batman skill. Climbing any surface, making insane high jumps, and traversing across a city on foot at incredible speeds.

Here is how the battle goes. I can dictate such cause Shadow already knows of your initial plans, and half my team has speed to get into position over yours.

Shadow orders the Hellsing crew to claim the gun nest for maximum effectiveness of range firepower.

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As seen in red, the team gets to the nest super fast. Green lines is the fire rang and cover area. Grey is the Tear Gas.

Once there, Seras will simply blow aya anyone with her Harkonnens.

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Like so. Each shell in the Harkonnen is a 30mm anti tank round.

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Comes with High Explosive Rounds or Depleted Uranium Rounds. Not only this she has two automatic versions of these canons.

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And she has insane accuracy with these guns.

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Anderson can and will support here with his Explosive Bayonets.

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He carries enough of these to level a city block.

All this fire power is not including the wire deathtraps of Walter.

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All of this will instant kill Richard who is too slow to react to them, and is flying into the path of fire like a idiot.

When Terminator gets there, even more shenanigans ensue with his Tear Gas round, which act as smoke screen, and will affect your team on a chemical level.

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In the movie the Tear Gas fogged up the battlefield so bad, cops cant see anything going on.

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It works that way in real life.

So now your team is being attacked by chemical warfare, and blinded. Also i been tear gassed in the Military, crap sucks.

Also this is not including another huge advantage. The Shadows Cloud Minds. None of your team has shown to be immune to the Shadow's ability to put you all under a illusion so far.

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And yes, he can apply this to a whole group.

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Your team will enter the kill zone, and never know what hit them till my team attacks with surprise on their side.

This is just firing squad, not even getting the packages.

Getting the job done

As I said my team is faster. Why they are unleashing hell, members of my team like Anderson can teleport to a package, and back to the drop point. Seras can fly at super speeds to get a package, and make it back. I know have two of the three packages at home base.

  • You really have no counter to this as your team is just to slow in travel speed.
  • Your team has no knowledge of walking into a death trap.
  • My team has surprise on its side thanks to the precog and the Cloud Minds. My team will have a death trap set up before your team gets there.

Conclusion

Well my team has better teamwork, more versatile for the job, faster, and overall have some advance knowledge due to Shadow's precog. Easy money.

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first off sorry for the late response work got really busy and finals caught up with me.

Alright, first off, what is this nonsense. None of this crap at all shows any valid quantifiable feats in any way. Its all game mechanics numbers. So all this, invalid. Feats, not made up multipliers and numbers man.

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That's the point his power is Game mechanics that is what makes him such a cheaty character even in universe people comment on it. more over his power does indeed use numbers and math therefore those affected by his ability share this effect You want feats? his entier being runs off numbers HP MP experaince points skill levels Stat points everything

So it's not nonsense it's using the character

And before i continue

My team work for my team will be much higher than yours honestly.

This is Nonsense!

Lets look at your team

Sera is a vampire from hellsing

Walter is a vampire ( or close enough where it does not matter ) who betrayed helseing

Anderson is a vampire hunter

Anderson will try to kill Walter and Sera on sight on principal as a psycotic vampire hunter

Sera will try to kill Anderson to avoid being killed and kill Walter for betraying Helsing and her master

Walter will try to kill Anderson to avoid being killed and try to kill sera as a member of a rival origisation

so basicly you have a 3 way death match as the majority of your team.Also what version of the T-800 are you using? because some version are designed to kill all humans which means it will try to kill shadow and Anderson

the only member of your team who is not in danger of killing outher is the shadow

Meaning your "teamwork" is nonexistent

Lightning will do nothing to T-800.

Alright then point to the walking death machine but IIRC i'm pretty sure the T-800 was melted by molten metal right?

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Richard can falcon punch hot enough to instantly melt metal

Dont know, never stated. Strong enough to force Alucard through a sky scraper.

okay that means what exactly? Lightning still travles down it and fries walter. or cuts clean thouge it with fire

Richard is pathetic so far. No where worthy of Stalling my team :)

Heh "Team" is a strong word for the Trainwreck that your group is

Really I don't even think i need to debate further until you can prove your team will not kill each other in character

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#13  Edited By cmcmcmcm

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That's the point his power is Game mechanics that is what makes him such a cheaty character even in universe people comment on it. more over his power does indeed use numbers and math therefore those affected by his ability share this effect You want feats? his entier being runs off numbers HP MP experaince points skill levels Stat points everything

So it's not nonsense it's using the character

Its No limits fallacy and unsupported nonsense. By this logic you could state some nonsense that your characters can be Spider Man level with the silly numbers pulled from your buttocks. Feats over un quantifiable numbers.

This is Nonsense!

Lets look at your team

Sera is a vampire from hellsing

Walter is a vampire ( or close enough where it does not matter ) who betrayed helseing

Anderson is a vampire hunter

Anderson will try to kill Walter and Sera on sight on principal as a psycotic vampire hunter

Sera will try to kill Anderson to avoid being killed and kill Walter for betraying Helsing and her master

Walter will try to kill Anderson to avoid being killed and try to kill sera as a member of a rival origisation

so basicly you have a 3 way death match as the majority of your team.

LOL nice attempt with failed knowledge.

Here Anderson restrains himself from killing or attacking Seras to complete a mission from the church.

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Here Anderson not only saves Integra Hellsing, but he saves Seras from his own men who wanted to attack her. They then work together to kill the Germans.

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Here Seras and even Alucard have a tear felt moment goodbye for Anderson. Anderson like wise felt no ill will toward them.

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Even after Walter turn artificial Vampire, Seras still respected him, and loved him like a family member. He likewise felt the same for Seras.

Why is this team that already worked together for a common goal fight each other? Because you have no real argument to win this match? Is that it?

Also what version of the T-800 are you using? because some version are designed to kill all humans which means it will try to kill shadow and Anderson

T-800 is of course not a kill all human Sky Net control model, herpy derp. If he was they would never have a chance to talk in the bar with each other. On the battlefield T-800 is all about the mission priorities, and in this case it will be carrying out the mission at hand. Not slaughtering the people here to help him in that en devour. Do not even try to go there lol.

Meaning your "teamwork" is nonexistent

Says the guy who failed epic to undermine my teamwork. At least Shadow is hell of a team leader, and can know everything important about my team to use them. All three Hellsing characters have a history of working together for a common goal. Walter and Seras are really close to boot. T-800 will comply toward his mission priority in this case the mission. You have nothing here.

Alright then point to the walking death machine but IIRC i'm pretty sure the T-800 was melted by molten metal right?

Richard can falcon punch hot enough to instantly melt metal

Wrong.

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Tanks molten steel poured all over him with no shown damage.

Various feats of being hit with Plasma gun fire without instant damage.

Richard little heated fist is not one shotting T-800, not that it matters as Richard will be dead several ways to sunday getting that close to T-800.

okay that means what exactly? Lightning still travles down it and fries walter. or cuts clean thouge it with fire

I cannot argue against that, but I doubt it will matter since Walters Wires have incredible range, across a city block.

Heh "Team" is a strong word for the Trainwreck that your group is

Really I don't even think i need to debate further until you can prove your team will not kill each other in character

As I showed, your so wrong there. Now try to make a attempt to actually counter how boned your team is rather than resort to petty tactics of undermining my team work over your mix mashed team.

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one user need t calm down and accept the points of the other users

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