Bor (Odin's Dad) vs. The Sentry

Sentry.OVERKILL.

Didn't Loki kill Bor?

"Didn't Loki kill Bor?"

"Didn't Loki kill Bor?"

Bor, Odinforce Thor is more impressive than Sentry (when he fights like he has it) and Bor matched a full powered Thor utilizing the Odinforce. That makes him more than Sentry can handle.

Bor was undefeated when it came to battle. He was practically invincible. He had no fear of the Frost Giants cause none of them were strong enough in magic to be considered a threat, so he never learned the mystic arts himself. That was his mistake. However, I don't see Sentry as the mystic type.

"Bor, Odinforce Thor is more impressive than Sentry (when he fights like he has it) and Bor matched a full powered Thor utilizing the Odinforce. That makes him more than Sentry can handle."

"Bor was undefeated when it came to battle. He was practically invincible. He had no fear of the Frost Giants cause none of them were strong enough in magic to be considered a threat, so he never learned the mystic arts himself. That was his mistake. However, I don't see Sentry as the mystic type."

"Emerald_General_Jai said:

"Bor, Odinforce Thor is more impressive than Sentry (when he fights like he has it) and Bor matched a full powered Thor utilizing the Odinforce. That makes him more than Sentry can handle."

When did Odin's dad, Bor, fight his grandson Thor?"

"lordraiden said:

"Emerald_General_Jai said:

"Bor, Odinforce Thor is more impressive than Sentry (when he fights like he has it) and Bor matched a full powered Thor utilizing the Odinforce. That makes him more than Sentry can handle."

When did Odin's dad, Bor, fight his grandson Thor?"

Thor 600."

"Rei-Kai said:

"Bor was undefeated when it came to battle. He was practically invincible. He had no fear of the Frost Giants cause none of them were strong enough in magic to be considered a threat, so he never learned the mystic arts himself. That was his mistake. However, I don't see Sentry as the mystic type."

You don't know what the Sentry can handle."

"AtPhantom said:

"lordraiden said:

"Emerald_General_Jai said:

"Bor, Odinforce Thor is more impressive than Sentry (when he fights like he has it) and Bor matched a full powered Thor utilizing the Odinforce. That makes him more than Sentry can handle."

When did Odin's dad, Bor, fight his grandson Thor?"

Thor 600."

Really? picking that up today, been hanging for that!"

"lordraiden said:

"AtPhantom said:

"lordraiden said:

"Emerald_General_Jai said:

"Bor, Odinforce Thor is more impressive than Sentry (when he fights like he has it) and Bor matched a full powered Thor utilizing the Odinforce. That makes him more than Sentry can handle."

When did Odin's dad, Bor, fight his grandson Thor?"

Thor 600."

Really? picking that up today, been hanging for that!"

Why have they jumped to 600 i don't get it ?"

"ecsnclr said:

"lordraiden said:

"AtPhantom said:

"lordraiden said:

"Emerald_General_Jai said:

"Bor, Odinforce Thor is more impressive than Sentry (when he fights like he has it) and Bor matched a full powered Thor utilizing the Odinforce. That makes him more than Sentry can handle."

When did Odin's dad, Bor, fight his grandson Thor?"

Thor 600."

Really? picking that up today, been hanging for that!"

Why have they jumped to 600 i don't get it ?"

Well it's supposed to be issue 13 or something like that of the new series, but it's the 600th Thor comic out since Thor was created in the sixties."

Yeah, they've jumped back to it's original numbering! If they still kept it as it's original numbers, this is what issue number it would be up to! See, that way they get the best of both worlds, they can start it off with a new issue number 1 for a relaunch/new series, then at some point, kick it back into it's original numbering!

"Yeah, they've jumped back to it's original numbering! If they still kept it as it's original numbers, this is what issue number it would be up to! See, that way they get the best of both worlds, they can start it off with a new issue number 1 for a relaunch/new series, then at some point, kick it back into it's original numbering!"

"lordraiden said:

"Yeah, they've jumped back to it's original numbering! If they still kept it as it's original numbers, this is what issue number it would be up to! See, that way they get the best of both worlds, they can start it off with a new issue number 1 for a relaunch/new series, then at some point, kick it back into it's original numbering!"

So you think it was agood idea"

"ecsnclr said:

"lordraiden said:

"Yeah, they've jumped back to it's original numbering! If they still kept it as it's original numbers, this is what issue number it would be up to! See, that way they get the best of both worlds, they can start it off with a new issue number 1 for a relaunch/new series, then at some point, kick it back into it's original numbering!"

So you think it was agood idea"

For me, either iether! Although I prefer the old numbering system, it's not really an issue and doesn't detract from my enthusiasm for the title :-)"

Well, technicly, they (i'm assuming your refering to JMS and Marvel) didn't really make him a girl, it was Loki who's done all this himself, most of it being explained in said issue we're talking about, all for manipulating things for his purpose! Loki is still Loki, if you read the previous issue, I think, you see him stepping out of the form that he's in, and you see him as he really is, in Hela's realm! I believe the female form he took/is inhabiting, is Sif's form, but you know what happend to her and what Loki did! He's doing a big mindf#$% over Thor in many ways, by doing what he's been doing over the last twelve issues which culminated in Thor #600, and him using Sif's body that she was suppose to inhabit, is another way of him screwing Thor over, mentally and emotionally, cause I believe he plans in getting back into his own skin, and letting Sif get back into her's (the one Loki's been wearing for the last twelve issues), but Thor and everyone else are use to seeing Loki when they see that female image, he's tainted Sif's new body, so both her and Thor have been psychologically screwed! Looks like Loki's pulled a pearler of a revenge and mindfu#$@ on his hated enemies :-)

"Well, technicly, they (i'm assuming your refering to JMS and Marvel) didn't really make him a girl, it was Loki who's done all this himself, most of it being explained in said issue we're talking about, all for manipulating things for his purpose! Loki is still Loki, if you read the previous issue, I think, you see him stepping out of the form that he's in, and you see him as he really is, in Hela's realm! I believe the female form he took/is inhabiting, is Sif's form, but you know what happend to her and what Loki did! He's doing a big mindf#$% over Thor in many ways, by doing what he's been doing over the last twelve issues which culminated in Thor #600, and him using Sif's body that she was suppose to inhabit, is another way of him screwing Thor over, mentally and emotionally, cause I believe he plans in getting back into his own skin, and letting Sif get back into her's (the one Loki's been wearing for the last twelve issues), but Thor and everyone else are use to seeing Loki when they see that female image, he's tainted Sif's new body, so both her and Thor have been psychologically screwed! Looks like Loki's pulled a pearler of a revenge and mindfu#$@ on his hated enemies :-)"

"lordraiden said:

"Well, technicly, they (i'm assuming your refering to JMS and Marvel) didn't really make him a girl, it was Loki who's done all this himself, most of it being explained in said issue we're talking about, all for manipulating things for his purpose! Loki is still Loki, if you read the previous issue, I think, you see him stepping out of the form that he's in, and you see him as he really is, in Hela's realm! I believe the female form he took/is inhabiting, is Sif's form, but you know what happend to her and what Loki did! He's doing a big mindf#$% over Thor in many ways, by doing what he's been doing over the last twelve issues which culminated in Thor #600, and him using Sif's body that she was suppose to inhabit, is another way of him screwing Thor over, mentally and emotionally, cause I believe he plans in getting back into his own skin, and letting Sif get back into her's (the one Loki's been wearing for the last twelve issues), but Thor and everyone else are use to seeing Loki when they see that female image, he's tainted Sif's new body, so both her and Thor have been psychologically screwed! Looks like Loki's pulled a pearler of a revenge and mindfu#$@ on his hated enemies :-)"

Funny thing is he made Thor think he's a changed man/woman so he's good LOL"

"ecsnclr said:

"lordraiden said:

"Well, technicly, they (i'm assuming your refering to JMS and Marvel) didn't really make him a girl, it was Loki who's done all this himself, most of it being explained in said issue we're talking about, all for manipulating things for his purpose! Loki is still Loki, if you read the previous issue, I think, you see him stepping out of the form that he's in, and you see him as he really is, in Hela's realm! I believe the female form he took/is inhabiting, is Sif's form, but you know what happend to her and what Loki did! He's doing a big mindf#$% over Thor in many ways, by doing what he's been doing over the last twelve issues which culminated in Thor #600, and him using Sif's body that she was suppose to inhabit, is another way of him screwing Thor over, mentally and emotionally, cause I believe he plans in getting back into his own skin, and letting Sif get back into her's (the one Loki's been wearing for the last twelve issues), but Thor and everyone else are use to seeing Loki when they see that female image, he's tainted Sif's new body, so both her and Thor have been psychologically screwed! Looks like Loki's pulled a pearler of a revenge and mindfu#$@ on his hated enemies :-)"

Funny thing is he made Thor think he's a changed man/woman so he's good LOL"

Not really! Thor always new he was never to be trusted and always new at the back of his mind not to trust him and he'd still be planning something! You can change your skin, but you can't change your nature :-)"

Bor smashes sentry's atoms back into their component electrons, neutrons, and protons, and the neutrons and protons into their compnent quarks and those back into their component mesons.

Bor

"I dont think this would be an easy fight. I think it would be real tough for Sentry to pick up the win. Bor fought Thor and gave him a lot of trouble in their fight. Bor was able to catch Mjolnir when Thor threw his hammer and it was stated that his power could destroy the Earth. I think Sentry would win but it would be tough for sure.
"

"Fresh Prince said:

"I dont think this would be an easy fight. I think it would be real tough for Sentry to pick up the win. Bor fought Thor and gave him a lot of trouble in their fight. Bor was able to catch Mjolnir when Thor threw his hammer and it was stated that his power could destroy the Earth. I think Sentry would win but it would be tough for sure.
"

For most of that fight, Thor was trying not to kill Bor. Once he decided to kill him, he did it in one hit."

My point is that during the whole fight, Thor was holding back. Once he cut loose, Bor died very easily.

"My point is that during the whole fight, Thor was holding back. Once he cut loose, Bor died very easily."

I do as well. I even think Bor could take this if he played his cards right.

"My point is that during the whole fight, Thor was holding back. Once he cut loose, Bor died very easily."

gonna go with Bor

"erik said:

"My point is that during the whole fight, Thor was holding back. Once he cut loose, Bor died very easily."

Maybe i read the wrong fight, but I did not get that impression at all. I mean, to begin with, Thor wasn't the only one holding back. It was pretty clear that, until the end, Bor wasn't tapping the limits of his power. He started with weapons, then took it to a fist fight instead of using his energy/magic, which he kept until the very end when he started to worry about getting worn down by Thor and the Avengers. Anyway, my bigger disagreement was with how Bor died easily the moment Thor cut loose. Thor was without his hammer when Bor powered up and Thor decided he needed to kill him. He could barely resist Bor's power output and make forward progress to regain his hammer. He took several blasts from Bor that caused him obvious pain and slowed him down even more before he finally reached his weapon. When he did they clashed and after that Thor was talking about how weak he felt and how he was about to die. The final time they both struck it looked like Thor hit when Bor didn't so he won (destroying his weapon in the process). Thor was struggling every second between his decision to "cut loose" and his victory, didn't seem easy to me."

I wasn't the only one that saw how Bor was owning Thor for the complete fight right? Sentry doesn't stand a chance

"I wasn't the only one that saw how Bor was owning Thor for the complete fight right? Sentry doesn't stand a chance"

"I wasn't the only one that saw how Bor was owning Thor for the complete fight right? Sentry doesn't stand a chance"

"Nighthunter said:

"I wasn't the only one that saw how Bor was owning Thor for the complete fight right? Sentry doesn't stand a chance"

Because Thor didnt want to kill him. So he didnt use his full power until he needed to."

In a way though, Thor was holding back because he didnt want to kill Bor because he knew he was one of his fellow Asgardians. But I agree with you that Bor too was also holding back a bit because he only unleashed his full power towards the end of the fight. But Thor also did put him down with one hit from his hammer. In this fight alone Bor showed some pretty impressive feats like catching Mjolnir and showing that he had enough power to destroy the Earth. I think Bor can beat Sentry here but it would still be tough.


and everyone out there Thor does have the Odinforce. He stated it in Thor 600 :)"

he never said that he didn't want to kill him"

Put him down with one hit? Not that it really matters, but that's not true. Did he not hit Bor until the final attack? Whether he was hitting him to kill or not, he was hitting him throughout the fight and obviously using more power than normal to do it (Bor said how Thor was using the Odinforce as they fought and Thor mentioned how it was keeping him in the fight). Even if you only count when Thor "stopped holding back" - which time though? i would say that saying something like "this must end quickly...so end it i shall" (and failing to put him down with the following "one hit from his hammer" btw) would be evidence of Thor's seriousness, but we can go with later in the fight - he took him down on the second hit.

Thor also got a bunch of hits on him earlier which also weakened Bor."

As for the Odinforce, I am underwhelmed. (I was underwhelmed by the entire fight actually, coulda been longer, more destructive, with more displays of power from both of them, but maybe that's just me.) Thor doesn't seem to use it for much else than bolstering his physical abilities.

Again, in regards to Thor and his inherited Odinpower/Thorforce, it does take time to earn feats and adapt! He's only had them for what, 12 issues of his lates run! Everything takes time characters to grow and become more potent/powerfull with their new found powers and showings! JMS's run has been awsome, but it also has been a slow burn building up to it's climax! He hasn't produced a stroy with Thor roaming around with the Thorforce annihlating things in his path.  Give him time, he'll shine :-)

"Again, in regards to Thor and his inherited Odinpower/Thorforce, it does take time to earn feats and adapt! He's only had them for what, 12 issues of his lates run! Everything takes time characters to grow and become more potent/powerfull with their new found powers and showings! JMS's run has been awsome, but it also has been a slow burn building up to it's climax! He hasn't produced a stroy with Thor roaming around with the Thorforce annihlating things in his path.  Give him time, he'll shine :-)"

"lordraiden said:

"Again, in regards to Thor and his inherited Odinpower/Thorforce, it does take time to earn feats and adapt! He's only had them for what, 12 issues of his lates run! Everything takes time characters to grow and become more potent/powerfull with their new found powers and showings! JMS's run has been awsome, but it also has been a slow burn building up to it's climax! He hasn't produced a stroy with Thor roaming around with the Thorforce annihlating things in his path.  Give him time, he'll shine :-)"

13 :)

I dont think Thor will be able to use his Odinforce the same way his father did and really master it. But I hope he will.
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"We'll just have to wait and see what happens. What power was it that Bor used in his fight with Thor? Was it something like the Odinforce?
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"It says on Bors page that his power>Odinforce. If that's so then how was Thor able to beat him?
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