Bone-claw Wolverine vs Shocker

Character morals apply. They start 20 feet apart  in the China Town in Queens. 
 
Who wins? (win by KO, incapacitation, or death)
 

" Wolverine. His reflexes should allow him to dodge Shockers attacks. "

" @The Average Bear said:

" Wolverine. His reflexes should allow him to dodge Shockers attacks. "

I didn't know his reflexes were better than Spider-man's(who Shocker has consistently been able to tag) "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @The Average Bear said:

" Wolverine. His reflexes should allow him to dodge Shockers attacks. "

I didn't know his reflexes were better than Spider-man's(who Shocker has consistently been able to tag) "

They aren't But 20 feet apart, IMO, isn't far enough for Shocker to get a good range of attack. Wolverine has dodged similar-ish attacks at point-blank range.  "

" @The Average Bear said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @The Average Bear said:

" Wolverine. His reflexes should allow him to dodge Shockers attacks. "

I didn't know his reflexes were better than Spider-man's(who Shocker has consistently been able to tag) "

They aren't But 20 feet apart, IMO, isn't far enough for Shocker to get a good range of attack. Wolverine has dodged similar-ish attacks at point-blank range.  "

Good point, I'm not sure if Shocker has the reaction time to keep from being blitzed and Wolverine's claws do give him a bit of an advantage over Shocker's suit(which usually keeps people from blitzing him) "

" @The Average Bear: I think he could win as well, although I just realized this is bone claw Wolverine and I don't know how sharp his bone claws are.... "

of course not!
Shocker gets the win here

" @The Average Bear: You think it would be able to penetrate Shocker's suit? "

i thought Shocker`s suit could take bullets?

" @The Average Bear: I'd say this comes down to two scenarios 1. Wolverine can penetrate the suit = Wolverine wins, 2. He can't = Shocker wins. The first scenario is more likely. "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @The Average Bear: I'd say this comes down to two scenarios 1. Wolverine can penetrate the suit = Wolverine wins, 2. He can't = Shocker wins. The first scenario is more likely. "

Well there's one thing you seem to have left out: Shockers eyes. They are not very protected. 
 
Another scenario- Shockers blasts overwhelm Wolverines enhanced hearing, thus incapacitating and possibly killing him. Now that I think about it, that seems very likely. "

" @The Average Bear said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @The Average Bear: I'd say this comes down to two scenarios 1. Wolverine can penetrate the suit = Wolverine wins, 2. He can't = Shocker wins. The first scenario is more likely. "

Well there's one thing you seem to have left out: Shockers eyes. They are not very protected. 
 
Another scenario- Shockers blasts overwhelm Wolverines enhanced hearing, thus incapacitating and possibly killing him. Now that I think about it, that seems very likely. "

Would that work? "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @The Average Bear: I'd say this comes down to two scenarios 1. Wolverine can penetrate the suit = Wolverine wins, 2. He can't = Shocker wins. The first scenario is more likely. "

Well there's one thing you seem to have left out: Shockers eyes. They are not very protected. 
 
Another scenario- Shockers blasts overwhelm Wolverines enhanced hearing, thus incapacitating and possibly killing him. Now that I think about it, that seems very likely. "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @The Average Bear: You think it would be able to penetrate Shocker's suit? "

I was pondering the same thing. Shockers suit protects him from his blasts and attacks from Spider-Man. So basically blunt force. I'm not sure what it does against sharp objects. I, myself, think Wolverines claws could penetrate it. "

I think Shocker would beat even a regular Wolverine by KO. He should be able to kill bone-claw with his blasts unless we are to believe now that Wolverine is faster than Spider-man?

Shocker would stomp. Even at 20 feet away wolverine would not be fast enough to reach before shocker blastes him into oblivion. If spiderman gets hit by shockers blasts then he can clip wolverine. Even if wolverine has dodged stuff that close in the past shocker's blasts are alot different then bullets because the have an AOE ( are of effect ) there for sake of argument wolverine dodges the centre of the blasts the AOE will trip him up causing him to be vulnerable to the fullness of the blasts. It will also only take a couple blasts to KO him incapacitate him since he has no adamantium.

im convinced, win for shocker

Shocker maybe

@Decoy Elite:

I think him being bones claws gives wolvi better reflexes

I can see Shocker taking it, actually.

@They Killed Cap! said:

@Decoy Elite:

I think him being bones claws gives wolvi better reflexes

IIRC it gives him a speed boost(due to not weighing as much)

However the boost is not such that he is above Spider-Man, a person that as I mentioned Shocker can consistently tag.

@Decoy Elite said:

@They Killed Cap! said:

@Decoy Elite:

I think him being bones claws gives wolvi better reflexes

IIRC it gives him a speed boost(due to not weighing as much)

However the boost is not such that he is above Spider-Man, a person that as I mentioned Shocker can consistently tag.

I believe he can be as fast as Daken without the adamantium...

@emperorznb: Who is still not as fast as Spider-Man.

@Decoy Elite said:

@emperorznb: Who is still not as fast as Spider-Man.

Of course he isn't ^^

Wolverine would win the majority. Yes shocker has tagged spider-man and yes its an impressive feat but spider-man has also dodged shocker a lot. In the scenario wolverine does get tagged his healing factor will help him recover fast enough get up and try again. Just because wolverine isn't spider-man doesn't mean its impossible for him to get a hit in on shocker. He can close the gap assuming he uses his skills. Oh and wolverines claws would probably get by shockers suit i think.

@jashro44: The point of Shocker being able to tag Spider-Man is that it means he's going to be able to hit Wolverine, which will blast Wolverine back and then continue to hit him with blasts until a KO is achieved. It would a long, long fight but there's no reason for Shocker to tire out or for his aim to suddenly suck(also keep in mind the radius of his blasts, which helps make up for fighting fast foes).

As for Wolverine cutting his suit, it's debatable to do Shocker vibrating his suit in order to block hits potentially blocking slashing attacks as well( it had allowed for him to stop a sniper bullet, but one could argue that cutting damage is different enough for that to be moot)

@jashro44: The point of Shocker being able to tag Spider-Man is that it means he's going to be able to hit Wolverine, which will blast Wolverine back and then continue to hit him with blasts until a KO is achieved. It would a long, long fight but there's no reason for Shocker to tire out or for his aim to suddenly suck(also keep in mind the radius of his blasts, which helps make up for fighting fast foes).

As for Wolverine cutting his suit, it's debatable to do Shocker vibrating his suit in order to block hits potentially blocking slashing attacks as well( it had allowed for him to stop a sniper bullet, but one could argue that cutting damage is different enough for that to be moot)

@jashro44: I think he could dodge some of Shocker's blasts but not all of them, which is the problem. One blast leads to being blown back, which leads to being blasted again, etc. Shocker can stun loop here is what I'm saying.

Possible, but the suit acts very different from steel.

@jashro44: I think he could dodge some of Shocker's blasts but not all of them, which is the problem. One blast leads to being blown back, which leads to being blasted again, etc. Shocker can stun loop here is what I'm saying.

Possible, but the suit acts very different from steel.

@jashro44 said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@jashro44: I think he could dodge some of Shocker's blasts but not all of them, which is the problem. One blast leads to being blown back, which leads to being blasted again, etc. Shocker can stun loop here is what I'm saying.

Possible, but the suit acts very different from steel.

Wolverine will have faster recovery time due to the healing factor. Also all though 1 blast would send him flying back to land a fetal 2nd blast shocker will need to charge those blasts. True but I don't believe his suit has stopped slashing damage before.

He has to charge? Since when?

I'm arguing under the assumption that Wolverine doesn't get to Shocker so I'm fine with that. IIRC it hasn't really gone up against cutting damage.

@jashro44 said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@jashro44: I think he could dodge some of Shocker's blasts but not all of them, which is the problem. One blast leads to being blown back, which leads to being blasted again, etc. Shocker can stun loop here is what I'm saying.

Possible, but the suit acts very different from steel.

Wolverine will have faster recovery time due to the healing factor. Also all though 1 blast would send him flying back to land a fetal 2nd blast shocker will need to charge those blasts. True but I don't believe his suit has stopped slashing damage before.

He has to charge? Since when?

I'm arguing under the assumption that Wolverine doesn't get to Shocker so I'm fine with that. IIRC it hasn't really gone up against cutting damage.

Have they met before? If Shocker knows about Wolverine's HF he should win because once he tags Logan he'll keep pummeling him down till he's KO'd. If Shocker doesn't know about it Logan will get back up and gut Shocker.

Going with Logan.

@jashro44: IIRC he has setting for his blasts, not charges.