Bolin vs Katara

@arcus: Yeah, but little hits turn into big hits and big hits turn into critical hits, and someone ends up dying, but yeah you are right and i withdraw my previous statement. For the first fight either of them could win, it just depends on who gets mad faster and who will be willing to take the other one out first.

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Katara runs and flings a near lake sized amount of water in projectile form up a mountain sized incline at Combustion man and does so fairly quickly. Bolin's lava isn't instantly evaporating that amount of water because it isn't concussive as a combustion blasts.

3:40 The amount of force she can apply to water (lifts up a fairly heavy boat like paperweight) can be done so nigh instantly as seen with that arm movement. She literally tosses the boat as if it weighs nothing into a mass of earth that is at a considerable distance and literally destroys it.

1:52 Considering the fight takes place in the South Pole, Katara will most likely not stand on any earth that Bolin can lava bend and she will have several ice caps and Ice covered earth to take advantage of. With that being said, even if she isn't sin direct contact with the water (which she usually isn't, but in this case she very well could be) she can shift immense amounts of water with powerful concussive force that would certainly crush or at least KO Bolin, if it doesn't drown him, and if it makes contact. Even in this video, she flooded the entire area with mist and blinded the enemy ship. Due to her being able to control water in all forms and on much more massive scales that Bolin has, with a near infinite supply of water in the South Pole, I definitely don't see him winning, but I will respect your decision. This wasn't really to persuade you that she will win, just to show you that Katara is definitely capable.

@armlesstigerman: Also, I believe you are referring to magma taking a while to cool even when it is submerged. This is usually only because there is a volcano already submerged underwater and the magma is rising from below the sea bed, that is different from lava being created from the curst of the earth on land and encountering a mass amount of water. Bolin's lava is hot and powerful, but comparing it to the actual magma caused by volcanic activity on a sea bed is probably not very accurate. Those are two completely different locations and circumstances. I love the way you think though.

@rijehu: to be fair, we've never really seen bent lava cooled by anyone other than a lava bender

The recent episode made me see bolin in a new light. He improved heavily, with time he may be as good as ghazan who engulfed an entire temple with his lava bending. Bolin wrecks katara, heck he may even do it without lava bending.

He has improved a lot, though I think Katara would take a fairly solid majority if he was limited to just earthbending

@arcus: This is true, however there has been only two main Lava Benders in the entire series though so we can't help the limited circumstances. What we do know is that the lava from the volcano Avatar Roku had taken on was diminished as it hit the ocean. Also, I doubt if lava created and manipulated by an earth bender is any different in its physical properties and functions that normal occurring lava. There is little reason to believe that it would now simply negate the cooling effects of a massive amount of water just because a bender created it. It is still just molten earth after all.

It would be like saying because Katara bends water out of the air, that particular water shouldn't conduct naturally occurring electricity, or because Azula bends blue flames, those particular flames shouldn't be neutralized by naturally occurring water. From what we have seen, the elements in any case are still just the elements, keeping the same functions and reactions of its naturally occurring counterpart, and relations with the opposite element. If we become that technical, we can argue all sorts of bending possibilities that would go on forever lol. It is logically acceptable to think that water will cool lava.

@rijehu: Amen. I haven't watched The Last Airbender in a while and i suppose i had forgotten some things about Katara. Good post, persuasive arguement, fair douze brother, faire douze.

@armlesstigerman: Haha it's ok man. A lot of us have forgotten things from the original series. I appreciate your compliments.

@rijehu:

The only possible difference is that bent lava is being actively heated by the bender, other than that fair points

True. To be honest, you would think lava bending would be just as frequent as a water bender turning water into ice and vapors. It is still just technically altering the phase of the element. But I suppose it takes a LOT more energy altering to change earth to lava than ice to water or vapor.

@rijehu: yeah, that's pretty much how I see it too

I think it's implied in the series that, due to its rarity, lavabending can only be learned by an earthbender who had both fire and earthbending parents.

@mrunsmiley: that would make sense, considering lava bending was originally only possible for the avatar as a combination of earth and fire bending

@mrunsmiley: Interesting...but I'm not sure.

@rijehu: Hasn't been outright stated, so it's anyone's guess.

@mrunsmiley: I see. I know this wasn't implied, but I also felt that P'Li was responsible for the death of Mako and Bolin's parents.

That...has no real grounding in fact, but to each his own.

@mrunsmiley: I know, but I remember how Mako mentioned that their parents were killed by a Firebender and then when P'Li was introduced and after seeing how deadly she was, I figured she was locked away for 13 years for some serious crimes other than a revolution attempt. She just seems to be an easy target I guess lol.

@rijehu: her crime was attempting to kidnap the Avatar

@arcus: Thats why I put "other than the revolution attempt" cause I knew of that one. I ale remember her mentioning her previous affiliate wanted her to be used as nothing more than a weapon. I just though it was possible that she could have been a killer for hire as well.

She was imprisoned for trying to kidnap the Avatar. If she was imprisoned for murder, she wouldn't be in such a specialized jail cell.

@rijehu: ah, ok

@mrunsmiley: I mentioned that in the comment above but I get what you are saying. I remember she referenced being used as a weapon at one point.

Bump, any other thoughts?

Sums this battle up.

Signed,

L. D.

hmm.. Book 4 Bolin has shown some damn impressive feats thus far. Round 1 and 2 most likely go to Bolin, 3 goes to Katara. Only reason being that Katara has the ocean at her disposal which pretty much negates the effects of the lava Bolin will throw at her. Furthermore, Katara has shown a feat where she almost a capsized a boat with a huge wave. Other then that I'd have to say Bolin in a stomp. He's faced way more agiled, and imo way more skilled, opponents and held his own to some degree (Unalaq and Ghazan). Bolin has gone from mediocre to pretty damn good bender folks.

I'd go with Katara for all rounds. Morals off means she will bloodbend.

@blacklegraph: there's no full moon for bloodbending

Bump

Co-signed by me.

Sophie

Round 1 Katara

Round 2 Bolin

Round 3 could go either way, though I think Katara has better chances of winning.

@goonage: any reasons?

I'd say Bolin, possibly all rounds

@mrnoital: any reasons?

@arcus: he's mentioned how older classic proper styles tend to lose to quicker modern boxing style techniques, and morals off, throwing a wave of lava against a wave of water, the lava is winning

@mrnoital: the classical styles were ineffective in probending, doesn't mean they're less effective in actual combat

round 3 katara god stomps.

@arcus: I was talking about the actual speed

they seemed to be a bit faster

sometimes they were, true

Any reasons? What about the other rounds?

@arcus: one of the biggest examples that LoK characters seem to bend faster was done by Mako though, he can make lightning way faster than anyone in the original series, and in many ways Bolin and Mako are pretty even, at least imo

Bolin

Blood bending

Blood bending

@patrat18: she can only blood bend on a full moon

@patrat18:

Any reasons?

There's no full moon so no bloodbending

@arcus: @mrnoital: Did not know that.

@arcus: Bolin. Katara wrecks round 3 because lava bending can be made irrelevant with the amount of water katara will have access to.

@patrat18: who do you think wins without bloodbending?

@arcus:

Katara. I doubt Bolin would kill her with morals.

Bolin because Katara has no answer for Lava.

Katara. Endless amounts of water should overwhelm Bolin.

@patrat18: with a starting distance of 25 feet, I don't think she'll be able to put out his amounts of lava, even with the ocean

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